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tinknocker44
01-13-2007, 03:47 PM
US strikes on al-Qa'ida chiefs kill nomads
By Anne Penketh and Steve Bloomfield
Published: 13 January 2007
The herdsmen had gathered with their animals around large fires at night to ward off mosquitoes. But lit up by the flames, they became latest victims of America's war on terror.

It was their tragedy to be misidentified in a secret operation by special forces attempting to kill three top al-Qa'ida leaders in south-ern Somalia.

Oxfam yesterday confirmed at least 70 nomads in the Afmadow district near the border with Kenya had been killed. The nomads were bombed at night and during the day while searching for water sources. Meanwhile, the US ambassador to Kenya has acknowledged that the onslaught on Islamist fighters failed to kill any of the three prime targets wanted for their alleged role in the 1998 US embassy bombings in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam.

The wanted men are Fazul Abdullah Moham-med, Saleh Ali Saleh Nabhan and Abu Taha al-Sudani, who were all supposedly sheltered by the Union of Islamic Courts during its short reign in Mogadishu.

The operation, which opened a new front in Washington's anti-terror campaign, seems to have backfired spectacularly in the five days since it was launched. In addition to the scores of Somali civilians killed, the simmering civil war in the failed state has been rekindled.

Yesterday concern was mounting at the high number of civilian casualties, despite a claim by the US ambassador, Michael Ranneberger, that no civilians had been killed or injured and that only one attack had taken place. The UN's refugee agency, UNHCR, reported that an estimated 100 people were wounded in Monday's air strikes on the small fishing village of Ras Kamboni launched from the US military base in Djibouti after a mobile phone intercept.

The operation was only confirmed by the Pentagon a day after it was launched and it continued despite international protests and warnings that it risked being counterproductive.

Yesterday the Americans had boots on the ground for the first time since a 1993 mission backfired and led to a humiliating withdrawal from Somalia. According to The Washington Post, a small number of US military personnel are in southern Somalia trying to determine exactly who was killed in the raids by an AC-130 gunship.

Oxfam - which had received reports from its Somali partner organisations about the herdsmen's deaths - and Amnesty International have asked whether the the air strikes violated international law.

"Under international law, there is a duty to distinguish between military and civilian targets," said Paul Smith-Lomas, Oxfam's regional director. "We are deeply concerned that this principle is not being adhered to, and that innocent people in Somalia are paying the price."

There is also concern that the attacks by American and Ethiopian gunships have fanned the country's civil war. Somalia's main warlords yesterday appeared to agree to disarm their militias and form a new national army. But as the warlords met with the Somali President, Abdullahi Yusuf, gun battles raged outside the presidential villa underlining the scale of the security problems.

Somalia has witnessed a fresh surge in violence this week as warlords have fought to regain old ground and Islamists have attacked government forces and their allies. The Ethiopian military, acting in support of the US-backed transitional government in Somalia, had only recently routed the Islamists from the capital.

Yesterday, fighting in Mogadishu claimed the lives of at least six militia men after a clash with troops. The gun battle was believed to have been sparked by an argument over a parking space.

tinknocker44
01-13-2007, 03:49 PM
On the bright side, we did eliminate those pesky mosquitos. Their government better be grateful or else.

coolwhip
01-13-2007, 03:53 PM
How do you tell a civilian from a terrorist when they look and dress the same? In the future, lets hope their momas tell them to choose their friends more wisely and not to hang around militants. This way, the innocents have less of a chance of getting blown to smithereens when our gun ships fly over.

Dumb bastards!

tinknocker44
01-13-2007, 03:58 PM
How do you tell a civilian from a terrorist when they look and dress the same? In the future, lets hope their momas tell them to choose their friends more wisely and not to hang around militants. This way, the innocents have less of a chance of getting blown to smithereens when our gun ships fly over.

Dumb bastards!

Where does it say any of them were militants? But you were half right, someone really is a dumb bastard.

James 3528
01-13-2007, 04:15 PM
Hell ..Aljezera doesn't call them desert nomads

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/F90BC88F-D123-4AEE-9C53-78C85498FC2A.htm

Nor does Yahoo


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070111/wl_nm/somalia_conflict_dc_110

Tinhacker goes all the way to the bias Independent so he can slam US Troops.

James 3528
01-13-2007, 04:16 PM
Where does it say any of them were militants? But you were half right, someone really is a dumb bastard.Yes you are correct, where does it say in YOUR source. One you shopped when this story is all over the net. Tell us how Liberals support the troops again.

James 3528
01-13-2007, 04:27 PM
How do you tell a civilian from a terrorist when they look and dress the same? In the future, lets hope their momas tell them to choose their friends more wisely and not to hang around militants. This way, the innocents have less of a chance of getting blown to smithereens when our gun ships fly over.

Dumb bastards!

When are you going to learn how to deal with these goofs? I have been trying to teach you for a long time now... For a moment let go of all your intelligence, logic and common sense and look at what they post. Then Google "Oxfam" and get a good laugh.

bootlen
01-13-2007, 04:38 PM
Google "Oxfam" and get a good laugh.

OMG!! Bwwwwahahahahahahahahahahaha!

RoBoTeq
01-13-2007, 04:43 PM
Hell ..Aljezera doesn't call them desert nomads

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/F90BC88F-D123-4AEE-9C53-78C85498FC2A.htm

Nor does Yahoo


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070111/wl_nm/somalia_conflict_dc_110

Tinhacker goes all the way to the bias Independent so he can slam US Troops.

Now wait just a moment here James. Are you suggesting that someone who is on the who's who list of a Palestinian web site is not trustworthy? http://cosmos.ucc.ie/cs1064/jabowen/IPSC/php/authors.php?auid=5327

RoBoTeq
01-13-2007, 04:46 PM
You guys haven't been listening for the past couple of years. I have been telling you that we will be going into Africa next for some time. President Bush told the American public when he initiated the war on terrorism that it will take us wherever we need to go in the world to combat terrorists who are actually killing Americans. The only thing the President was not able to come right out and say is that it is Muslim terrorists that we will be dwelling on.

James 3528
01-13-2007, 04:49 PM
You guys haven't been listening for the past couple of years. I have been telling you that we will be going into Africa next for some time. President Bush told the American public when he initiated the war on terrorism that it will take us wherever we need to go in the world to combat terrorists who are actually killing Americans. The only thing the President was not able to come right out and say is that it is Muslim terrorists that we will be dwelling on.You forgot a few more

http://www.iowapresidentialwatch.com/images/cartoons/ForeignDemsLg.JPG

chillbilly
01-13-2007, 07:11 PM
Nice.

I was wondering how the Somalia thing would spin.
I had no doubts about who would bring it up though.

American forces were given the intel freely from Somalian's and they acted on it when they were given the go ahead.

Jeez man, even these positive and highly successful missions are shot down, pardon the pun.
:rolleyes:

James 3528
01-13-2007, 07:26 PM
THIS THREAD SHOULD SERVE AS PROOF OF THE SYMPATHY THE LIBERALS FROM HERE AND OVER TO EUROPE FEEL FOR THE ISLAMIC TERRORIST.

SUPPORTING THE TROOPS? PATRIOTIC CITIZEN OF AMERICA?







MY ASS!

chillbilly
01-13-2007, 08:58 PM
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This is who we killed....and people just like him.

coordinatesales
01-15-2007, 01:39 PM
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This is who we killed....and people just like him.

But Chilly, he isn't wearing a uniform with a flag on the shoulder and cool medals and stuff so he HAS to be a civilian right?:D:D:D

When the enemy doesn't wear uniforms and dresses like those around him, it's easy to claim the bodies are those of civilians.