...now i'm trying to trick my way into the trade

[wolfstrike]

i'm going to apply at an appliance company, they said they might open a HVAC service soon.

i figure i can get hired into the company BEFORE they end up like everyone else and demand a minimum of 5 years experience.

[coolwhip]

OK, you have my permission.:D But, you aint going to get HVAC experience working on toasters.

[wolfstrike]

you aint going to get HVAC experience working on toasters.


you mean electric resistance heating?


stick a toaster in a duct , it's the same damn thing

[coolwhip]

Nope, wont pass inspection.

[wolfstrike]

people do inpections?



:)

[coolwhip]

Inspectors do inspections.

Wolfstike, you are going to have to start on the bottom. If your educated in the field, then you will move up faster.
I was 20 when I started at 5.50 per hour. My first job was a coldwell banker. I had to shovel sand on a 85 degree day for 2 days to fill around some underground duct.
All I would do is help lift stuff, keep the shop clean, and haul tools around. Little by little, things were fed to me, and as I gained knowledge and experience, I also gained trust and more money. Thats how the trades work.

[wolfstrike]

must have been nice to be employed , i tell these companies i'm looking for entry level work they treat me like i took a shot at the Pope.


...oh well , it's just these asses in Nevada, summer hiring should start soon ,

i'm giving Nevada a couple more months , if i don't get something here i'm sure i'll get something in California.

Nevada is all bullsht

[Shophound]

i'm going to apply at an appliance company, they said they might open a HVAC service soon.

i figure i can get hired into the company BEFORE they end up like everyone else and demand a minimum of 5 years experience.

Appliance repair, eh? How about a little skills test before your interview?

1) On certain model Kenmore top loader washing machines with a wig-wag assembly, does the:

a) agitator and tub spin during tub drain phase?
b) agitator and tub remain stationary during tub drain phase?
c) agitator remain stationary but tub spins during tub drain phase?
d) agitator spins but tub remains stationary during tub drain phase?

2) On certain G.E. top loader washing machines, how is the agitator removed?

a) remove cap from agitator and loosen set screw
b) remove cap from agitator and remove kotter pin
c) pull on agitator until it comes free of shaft
d) go to parts house and get an agitator pulling tool

3) A customer is constantly calling back to your shop to report her dishwasher spills suds onto the floor during the wash cycle. You've been there multiple times and each time you can't see anything wrong. The customer is using the proper soap and all door seals are fine. What is the problem? Discuss:


Three questions...three right answers. Miss one and you go below 70%. :D

[wolfstrike]

washing machines don't have agitators :D right? :)


i appreciate the challenge , but this is "no exp" appliance install.


i almost applied at a appliance repair place last summer that was "no exp required" , but the last job i was at screwed that up for me.

[bootlen]

you aint going to get HVAC experience working on toasters.


you mean electric resistance heating?


stick a toaster in a duct , it's the same damn thing

Aha! I think we've found your problem.

[bootlen]

Appliance repair, eh? How about a little skills test before your interview?

1) On certain model Kenmore top loader washing machines with a wig-wag assembly, does the:

a) agitator and tub spin during tub drain phase?
b) agitator and tub remain stationary during tub drain phase?
c) agitator remain stationary but tub spins during tub drain phase?
d) agitator spins but tub remains stationary during tub drain phase?

b?

2) On certain G.E. top loader washing machines, how is the agitator removed?

a) remove cap from agitator and loosen set screw
b) remove cap from agitator and remove kotter pin
c) pull on agitator until it comes free of shaft
d) go to parts house and get an agitator pulling tool

b?

3) A customer is constantly calling back to your shop to report her dishwasher spills suds onto the floor during the wash cycle. You've been there multiple times and each time you can't see anything wrong. The customer is using the proper soap and all door seals are fine. What is the problem? Discuss:

Limit switch is stuck closed and door is stuck open. End of discussion.

Three questions...three right answers. Miss one and you go below 70%. :D

:D yaself.

[coordinatesales]

1) On certain model Kenmore top loader washing machines with a wig-wag assembly, does the:

a) agitator and tub spin during tub drain phase?
b) agitator and tub remain stationary during tub drain phase?
c) agitator remain stationary but tub spins during tub drain phase?
d) agitator spins but tub remains stationary during tub drain phase?
a



2) On certain G.E. top loader washing machines, how is the agitator removed?

a) remove cap from agitator and loosen set screw
b) remove cap from agitator and remove kotter pin
c) pull on agitator until it comes free of shaft
d) go to parts house and get an agitator pulling toola


3) A customer is constantly calling back to your shop to report her dishwasher spills suds onto the floor during the wash cycle. You've been there multiple times and each time you can't see anything wrong. The customer is using the proper soap and all door seals are fine. What is the problem? Discuss:I really would suspect the soap if the door seals properly. Now if it is flooding and not just suds, then the water level switch is stuck. The only other thing I can think of is the heating element is coming on and staying on during the wash cycle causing the water to boil and form excess suds.

Now, I've installed but never repaired a dishwasher. My washing machine experience is limited to install and replacing or rebuilding water valves. I'll be impressed if I got 1 right much less 3.

[wolfstrike]

3) A customer is constantly calling back to your shop to report her dishwasher spills suds onto the floor during the wash cycle. You've been there multiple times and each time you can't see anything wrong. The customer is using the proper soap and all door seals are fine. What is the problem? Discuss:


the customer is using too much soap , they all leak if you use too much, don't they?

[Shophound]

the customer is using too much soap , they all leak if you use too much, don't they?

She is using the correct amount of soap. The soap is of the proper type as well. The dishwasher is not overfilling. The drying elements are not on during the wash cycle. The seals are fine. Yet suds manage to squeeze past the door and flow onto the kitchen floor, sending the woman into hysterics. What to do???

[bootlen]

Give 'er 2 valiums.

[bootlen]

...per washer load.

[rsmith46]

She is using the correct amount of soap. The soap is of the proper type as well. The dishwasher is not overfilling. The drying elements are not on during the wash cycle. The seals are fine. Yet suds manage to squeeze past the door and flow onto the kitchen floor, sending the woman into hysterics. What to do???


If she's using the correct dishwasher detergent there should be very minimal suds unless the water level is low and the pump is sucking air and water.

[mcr]

Speaking of agitaters, Where's James when you need him?:D :p

[Senior Tech]

This is why I have old fashioned dishwasher...and all I have to do is feed and clothe her :D

[cold in alberta]

must have been nice to be employed , i tell these companies i'm looking for entry level work they treat me like i took a shot at the Pope.


...oh well , it's just these asses in Nevada, summer hiring should start soon ,

i'm giving Nevada a couple more months , if i don't get something here i'm sure i'll get something in California.

Nevada is all bullsht


aren't you the guy that wants entry level work at 18/hr?

[johnl]

A
B
(I had a thing called an agi-cushion, it was a rubber donut that went under the agitator and hooked up to the water supply, you could get about 3 feet of air when some of em popped lol)
Get your water softener fixed, soft water=suds up the ying yang
what do i win? lol
I did the appliance repair thing during a lull in hvac/r business just after i got out of school. I actually found it to be a pretty good learning experience. I had no job at the time and this place was advertising for a tech. I applied and started at a whopping $9/hr. My interview consisted of, Q:"can you fix a washing machine?" A: Dunno never tried Q:Can you fix a dishwasher? A:Dunno never tried Q:How about a dryer? A: See previous answer Q:can you fix a fridge? A: Hell yeah Q: can you start on Monday? lol I figured i would be working with an experienced tech and would get to learn, yeah......i was THE tech. Figured i would work for a week, get my 2 weeks notice and get a paycheck to pay the rent. I quit after a year and a bit to take the job i have now lol. (been here for 10 or 11 years) I worked for complete dik who appreciated nothing, commuted 45 miles out of town to get to work and had to teach myself everything. That is the part that i think helped me the most was having to teach myself. As much as i disliked the guy i worked for if i had it to do all over again, i wouldnt change a thing. I gained some good basic electrical troubleshooting skills working on dryers and ovens etc.
Actually question one was supposed to be B my bad

[rohalon]

#3

Ask if she is hand washing the dishes with liquid dish soap and not rinseing them before loading them into the dishwasher. Or check the drain line for leakage, gotta be something not sealing properly somewhere, could be a gasket on the top rack roller mount thingies. Could be a hole in her garbage disposal.



Roh

[johnl]

had the questions reversed , B then A. damn dislexic fingers :D

[Shophound]

The dishwasher scenario was an actual baffler I had back in my apt. biz days. Here's what I found out when I could absolutely find no other cause for this woman's dishwasher throwing suds onto the floor. I just happened to glance at the "jet dry" dispenser. It was full of liquid dish soap, the kind used at the sink vs. in the machine. Tenant had just moved in so she swore it wasn't her. However it got there, it was the culprit. On the G.E. dishwasher models at that complex, the seal on the door isn't tight at the bottom. I guess the engineer that came up with that design figured the water would never splash out from under the bottom of the door, which it doesn't...unless the tub is billowing with soap suds!

The Kenmoore model I had in mind has an idle tub and agitator while the water is draining. If I remember correctly, the wig-wag assembly shifts the transmission from agitation mode to spin mode.

The G.E. washers I've worked on...the agitator can be removed just by pulling it straight up out of the tub. No retaining nuts or keys. It sits on a spline at the top of the shaft that drives the agitator. The spline is rubber coated. Over time this rubber can deteriorate and the agitator will slow down or even stop moving after enough wear.

[chaard]

A
B
(I had a thing called an agi-cushion, it was a rubber donut that went under the agitator and hooked up to the water supply, you could get about 3 feet of air when some of em popped lol)
Get your water softener fixed, soft water=suds up the ying yang
what do i win? lol
I did the appliance repair thing during a lull in hvac/r business just after i got out of school. I actually found it to be a pretty good learning experience. I had no job at the time and this place was advertising for a tech. I applied and started at a whopping $9/hr. My interview consisted of, Q:"can you fix a washing machine?" A: Dunno never tried Q:Can you fix a dishwasher? A:Dunno never tried Q:How about a dryer? A: See previous answer Q:can you fix a fridge? A: Hell yeah Q: can you start on Monday? lol I figured i would be working with an experienced tech and would get to learn, yeah......i was THE tech. Figured i would work for a week, get my 2 weeks notice and get a paycheck to pay the rent. I quit after a year and a bit to take the job i have now lol. (been here for 10 or 11 years) I worked for complete dik who appreciated nothing, commuted 45 miles out of town to get to work and had to teach myself everything. That is the part that i think helped me the most was having to teach myself. As much as i disliked the guy i worked for if i had it to do all over again, i wouldnt change a thing. I gained some good basic electrical troubleshooting skills working on dryers and ovens etc.
Actually question one was supposed to be B my bad


Sounds like my life. Did the same thing for the same dik.