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jojo
11-30-2006, 03:00 PM
can someone point me to written documents recommending replacement of furnaces and boilers damaged by flood waters?

thnx n advance,
jojo

jrbenny
11-30-2006, 03:13 PM
GAMA:

http://www.gamanet.org/gama/news.nsf/vAttachmentLaunch/466514DE0A45531E8525706D0057A78B/$FILE/083005%20Hurricane%20Katriana.pdf

zzyzzx
12-04-2006, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by jrbenny
GAMA:

http://www.gamanet.org/gama/news.nsf/vAttachmentLaunch/466514DE0A45531E8525706D0057A78B/$FILE/083005%20Hurricane%20Katriana.pdf

I do not consider that source to be exactly unbiased.

jrbenny
12-04-2006, 04:29 PM
So, perhaps you would like a third party that has nothing to do with furnace repairs to say 'Yeah, just change some things, and it will be just fine.' :rolleyes:

Sure.

billva
12-04-2006, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by zzyzzx


I do not consider that source to be exactly unbiased. [/B]

if you're going to repair flood damaged equipment, you may want to increase the limits on your insurance policy. no contractor in his right mind would repair flood damaged equipment.

zzyzzx
12-05-2006, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by jrbenny
So, perhaps you would like a third party that has nothing to do with furnace repairs to say 'Yeah, just change some things, and it will be just fine.' :rolleyes:

Sure.

The source was an appliance manufacturers group. Of course they want you to buy a new one. I'd like to see what someone who actually repairs appliances would say.

tlchvac
12-05-2006, 06:15 PM
"The source was an appliance manufacturers group. Of course they want you to buy a new one. I'd like to see what someone who actually repairs appliances would say."

I think BVILLA "actually repairs appliances" so dont that count?

jrbenny
12-05-2006, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by zzyzzx

Originally posted by jrbenny
So, perhaps you would like a third party that has nothing to do with furnace repairs to say 'Yeah, just change some things, and it will be just fine.' :rolleyes:

Sure.

The source was an appliance manufacturers group. Of course they want you to buy a new one. I'd like to see what someone who actually repairs appliances would say. Guess who the people that repair appliances call for advice on repair or replace. ;)

too tall terry
12-05-2006, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by zzyzzx

Originally posted by jrbenny
So, perhaps you would like a third party that has nothing to do with furnace repairs to say 'Yeah, just change some things, and it will be just fine.' :rolleyes:

Sure.

The source was an appliance manufacturers group. Of course they want you to buy a new one. I'd like to see what someone who actually repairs appliances would say. good enough.......JUNK IT......it is unsafe,..... period.......not on my watch,will i ever say.....oh it should be fine.........think about dude,are you for real?

cem-bsee
12-05-2006, 07:29 PM
what type of fuel?

what type of furnace?

what type of building?

markj
12-05-2006, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by jrbenny
GAMA:

http://www.gamanet.org/gama/news.nsf/vAttachmentLaunch/466514DE0A45531E8525706D0057A78B/$FILE/083005%20Hurricane%20Katriana.pdf

Looks like good advice to me.

seaeagle2
12-09-2006, 11:57 PM
Yah, imagine those greedy money grubbing manufacturers wanting you to replace equipment that has been flooded. 1. The electronics on the circuit board have probably been damaged. 2. I only work on gas equipment so this may not apply, the gas control valve has some springs and solinoids, imagine how well those will work after being water soaked. 3. Some of the limit and rollout switches are thermal snap switches, suppose they corroded or got some sand in them and don't trip. 4. The inducer and blower probably have dirt and grit in them, and the bearings may have been damaged.
Every furnace and gas vavle manufacturer has a warning that if the equipment has been flooded, it should be replaced, there is a good reason.
Yet, if there were a problem, you would probably have no problem hiring a lawyer to sue for a defective product.

Carnak
12-10-2006, 12:03 AM
I have a luxaire condenser that was under salt water, still runs for over 2 years. Never complain about a bristol again.

Freezeking2000
12-10-2006, 12:06 AM
Originally posted by Carnak
I have a luxaire condenser that was under salt water, still runs for over 2 years. Never complain about a bristol again.


sealed unit!

oil lp man
12-10-2006, 08:44 AM
I've repaired quite a few gas and oil fired units that had water damage and so has many techs I work with. It depends on how much water was in the basement. And what got covered with water also the age of the boiler/ furnace will determine whether or not replacement of the entire unit is a better choice.
If the unit is forced warm air and was totally submerged, then regardless of age, a complete replacement may be your best bet.
But on a 10 year old large (1.50 gph)upflow Thermopride oil fired unit that had 2-3 feet of water in the basement I replaced the burner motor, blower motor, primary control, igniter, blower motor, combustion chamber and servicemans switch and cleaned out what was left of the combustion chamber (what looked like wet clay) all over the place. The chamber was special order but everything else was readily available.
Parts and labor about $1000. A brand new furnace would have been a hell of a lot more.
If it was a slightly older unit and a cheaper brand I might have talked them into a new furnace.

zzyzzx
12-11-2006, 08:56 AM
In so far as an appliance, I'd have no problem cleaning and at least attempting to use flood damaged dishwasher or washing machine.