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dhh
11-25-2006, 07:45 PM
I've beat the question of whether my new system if functioning optimally to death in many different ways on this forum.

It all keeps coming back to my needing a 2-stage 'stat for my 2-stage furnace.

Bryant Plus90I.

I only have a single stage AC condensor. I don't have humidity controls. I don't care about furnace filter replacement alarms. I don't care about "vacation" mode. The fancy UI is neat, but not worth spending 100's for unless I'm getting something else that is truly of value.

All I think I need is good 2-stage control of the furnace staging, as I'm convinced the furnace itself just can't handle it on its own, no matter how smart the Bryant people believe the furance to be.

That said, can anyone offer me good logic/rationale for my going with the top-line Evolution control UI with the furnace (I've been offered dealer cost on it with no installation charge)? Or should I be advised to go with a less expensive 2-stage (Honeywell) that someone can offer me good logic/rational for going with 'cause it can do the same excellent 2-stage heating control?

dynalowrider79
11-25-2006, 07:59 PM
Do you have the evo heater with vari speed or just the bryant 2 stage heater if its the evo heater go with the controll you have programing,diagnostics that tell you when there is a problem so you know right away you need to have a tech out there and it still gives you humidity controll in the summer time even with a single stage compressor, it will slow the fan speed down to dehumidify and its very user friendly. Also if you decide in the future you want to ever add a humidifier you can and your ready with the right controll for the job I think its worth the money no matter what, a 2 stage stat is just a stat the evo controll is on a whole other level and very much worth it since thats what the system is designed to work with with, but if your fine with out having all the options and controll of a system you paid for then I guess any 2 stage stat will be fine, but you are still cheating yourself out of the full benifits that your system has to offer and those are benifits im sure you paid for. but what ever works for you is whats best

hankmcneil
11-26-2006, 04:46 PM
I say run bicycle tires on your car, they're cheeper! Or better yet get some 12" wheels and run 12" tires on your SUV!

dhh
11-26-2006, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by hankmcneil
I say run bicycle tires on your car, they're cheeper! Or better yet get some 12" wheels and run 12" tires on your SUV!

By this time I should be so totally ready for the smart-a.. answers I often get on this forum that they would just roll off my back.

The contractor/dealer made the decision to hook me up with a single-stage 'stat. At the time I had no reason to think this dealer to by any less of a "Professional Member" than anyone on this forum. This dealer is still trying to convince me that the Evolution control would not benefit me in any way other than the bells-and-whistles that I really don't care about (I don't care about being able to read the error code at the 'stat rather than at the furnace, etc..). I'm getting conflicting feedback regarding how the Evolution 'stat deals with humidity via fan speed and such. Some say it will while others say it won't. That would certainly be a selling point for me, if it would do this (although the climate here is typically 50% humidity anway).

Yes, I agree totally that I should have the Evolution in order to guarantee that I can take advantage of everything I bought with the furnace. This all goes back to my dealer trying to squeeze money out of the system to put into his pocket though. It wasn't spelled out in the contract that I would get the Evolution control. Only "implied". If I were to take it all to court I'm sure I could get the Evolution, but then I would have spent more money and time than I would had I simply given up and bought one myself. So the dealer's offer to give me one at cost and install for free is still, frustratingly, the most logical way to go. I simply fell victim to the standard contracting shenanigans that go on in any contracting business. But now, of course, the dealer insists that I would be wasting my money on the Evolution (and says that is why he didn't include it in his job nor in his price) so I'm now trying to satisfy myself that it is or is not a good expense.

I will likely go for the Evolution if for no other reason than to just put it all to bed.

beenthere
11-26-2006, 08:28 PM
If its a VS blower then you you should get some benifits from the Evolution control, it should still be slow the blower to remove more humidity.

If its a PSC blower, then a most any honeywell 2 stage stage will work fine.

I would recommend the th8321. As an afordable, and worthwhile 2 stage stat.

dynalowrider79
11-26-2006, 09:10 PM
any pro on here that knows even a little bit about an infinity or evolution system will tell you to take the controll. so if you are hoping for someone to its not worth your never going to find them here so if you want the evo controll go for it, if you dont then get what ever it is that you want for it. it sounds as though you have you self convinced that you dont want the evo controll and thats good if you can live with it i can but is there somthing else out there that is just as good for your system the answer is no the evo controll is the best thing for it so do whats good for you and what is good for your budget