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J8500
11-26-2012, 03:00 PM
Hello. I live in the Atlanta metro area and we are looking to replacing our basement HVAC system which is a Trane XB10, 1.5 ton. The system serves the basement which is mostly finished (2000 sq ft finished) and the unit died on us a few weeks ago. I have had a few companies come out and one of them quoted us on Goodman, but after reading many reviews it seems like I should stay away from it. Some reviews say it's all about install. This is really starting to confuse me. I have also received quotes on Trane and Lennox.
So what's your opinion on Goodman? Each company did a manual j but all the units that I was quoted on were all different sizes which is also confusing me. I do know that basements don't need much heat or cool. Any advice appreciated.
kangaroogod
11-26-2012, 07:25 PM
Which do you prefer ford, Chevrolet, Nissan, or Chrysler?
Your going to get the same type if answers. The installer is the most important part of the equation. I personally love goodman and have both a goodman furnace and a/c in my home. The warranties are one of the best on the market but many others have had bad experiences and will bash them as I would some of the ones they suggest. Personally I think any of the brands would provide you with years of comfort.
catmanacman
11-26-2012, 07:33 PM
i dont care for goodman because 90% of them i run across are poorly installed by low ball installers ,
J8500
11-26-2012, 09:48 PM
Which do you prefer ford, Chevrolet, Nissan, or Chrysler?
Your going to get the same type if answers. The installer is the most important part of the equation. I personally love goodman and have both a goodman furnace and a/c in my home. The warranties are one of the best on the market but many others have had bad experiences and will bash them as I would some of the ones they suggest. Personally I think any of the brands would provide you with years of comfort.
Thanks for the info. I forgot to mention that the Trane XB10 is a heat pump matched up with a fan coil with electric backup heat. Here's the quotes, and I do know that pricing is not allowed here:
Company A: Quote #1: Trane XB13 1.5 ton heat pump 4TWB3018C with Air Handler GAF2A0A18S11SA.
Quote #2: Trane XR13 1.5 ton heat pump 4TWR3018C with Air Handler TAM4A0A18. Contractor said thermostat is fine and does not need replacement.
Company B: Quote: Lennox 13HPX 2 ton heat pump (he did not say the exact model) and Air Handler CBX26UH along with new thermostat (don't know what model or brand of thermostat yet)
Company C: Quote: Goodman 2 ton SSZ14 heat pump with Air Handler ASPF 183016 (He did not mention anything about the thermostat)
So obviously install matters more than brand. Do these match ups sound right to you? I'm a bit worried that they are aren't. Thanks in advance.
J8500
11-26-2012, 09:52 PM
i dont care for goodman because 90% of them i run across are poorly installed by low ball installers ,
After doing some research I found out that Goodman's reputation is bad because they pretty much sell to anyone. This obviously means that many hacks pick up their equipment and install the units poorly, and Goodman is everywhere on the internet which means that anyone can order the systems and DIY install them. We all know that HVAC is NOT a DIY trade.
jtrammel
11-26-2012, 10:12 PM
I agree the main reason any equipment gets a bad name is bc their eqipment is sold to anybody's brothers uncle and it is not done correctly so it has problems. As long as the goodman or any if the others are installed, sealed, and ducted properly you should have minimal troubles out of them and get 15-20+ years of service out of it. Go with the contractor you trust will do the job properly and will be in buisiness long enough to back it if you have problems.
wahoo
11-27-2012, 02:20 PM
You need to keep in mind that Goodman is the single largest selling brand equipment in the U.S. and is now owned by the largest manufacturer in the world. So they'll be around for quite a while. We've sold Goodman and Amana (their premium brand) for about 10 years after a long (+20yr) association with another brand (whose quality seemed to become crap). As mentioned, Goodman is as good as anyone else, and their warranties are usually better (lifetime comp. on 14 SEER unit!). As for the internet sales, they refuse to warranty internet sold equipment, however along with Goodman there are a lot of other brands sold that way. As for pricing, as you've probably noticed Goodman does not do much advertising nationally to public. They do a lot of advertising in trade magazines to contractors and it must work. But these large national public ad campaigns cost money so the ones you've mentioned usually charge you for this widespread advertising. Quality of equipment does not positively correlate with ad money spent, in fact I'd guess the correlation would actually be negative. It's truly the contractor and the installation that count!!
J8500
11-27-2012, 03:06 PM
Thanks for all the input. Goodman was purchased by Daikin, correct? The SSZ14 does come with a lifetime compressor warranty and ten years on parts. The contractor said that the ASPF features an x13 blower motor and will increase the efficiency of the heat pump up to 15 seer. Is this true? I believe it is but I'm not quite sure. Does a 2 ton system sound right to you for the basement or is a 1.5 ton fine?
wahoo
11-27-2012, 03:27 PM
yes, the 14 SEER becomes 15 with this X13 air handler. Sorry, but can't size your system without more information. Just don't oversize a basement system as it's easy to do. If a 1.5 ton has worked well in the past, I'd be hesitant to go larger without a good manual J figure helping me make that decision. The more this unit runs, the better the humidity control, so run time is important!
J8500
11-27-2012, 03:47 PM
yes, the 14 SEER becomes 15 with this X13 air handler. Sorry, but can't size your system without more information. Just don't oversize a basement system as it's easy to do.
Thanks. Sorry I should have provided more info in my first post. As I already mentioned our basement is 2000 sq ft. We have an 8 inch supply going into the media room, 6 inch supply going into bedroom, 6 inch supply in man cave, 6 inch supply in other bedroom, 6 inch supply in workshop, and a 4 inch in bathroom. The basement has one 12 inch return. All three contractors said that the supply in one of the bedrooms will be enlarged to an 8 inch to supply better heating in there. Hope this helps.
wahoo
11-27-2012, 03:56 PM
AS far as air flow goes, the 1.5 ton is limit for a 12" round return, and the 15 SEER will have a 2 1/2 ton blower behind it. If this system is using flex pipe, then I'd just stay with the 1.5 ton system, regardless of whether or not they change run to bedroom to 8". You'll need the ability to move 800 cfm/minute for 2 ton system. IMO anyway.
J8500
11-27-2012, 04:01 PM
AS far as air flow goes, the 1.5 ton is limit for a 12" round return, and the 15 SEER will have a 2 1/2 ton blower behind it. If this system is using flex pipe, then I'd just stay with the 1.5 ton system, regardless of whether or not they change run to bedroom to 8". You'll need the ability to move 800 cfm/minute for 2 ton system. IMO anyway.
Thanks. I dropped company A (one recommending Trane) because the contractor seemed unwilling to help. I'm still trying to decide between the Lennox and the Goodman. The system is using flex pipe. I forgot to mention that the contractor who quoted us on the Goodman said that another 12 inch return will have to be added.
wahoo
11-27-2012, 04:32 PM
What did your manual J figures come out to? If 2 ton is needed and an additional return is added, then do it. Oh, the two companies you are considering? We made that decision about 10 years ago, and have NEVER regretted it. Many of the folks we deal with at the Goodman Corp. level USED to work for same company I'm talking about. Used to....think I know why.
J8500
11-27-2012, 04:41 PM
What did your manual J figures come out to? If 2 ton is needed and an additional return is added, then do it. Oh, the two companies you are considering? We made that decision about 10 years ago, and have NEVER regretted it. Many of the folks we deal with at the Goodman Corp. level USED to work for same company I'm talking about. Used to....think I know why.
The manual J came out to 1.9 tons. Thanks for asking though.
Twilly
11-27-2012, 09:23 PM
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J8500
11-27-2012, 09:47 PM
Twilly says hahahhahhahahahhahahah.
What's so funny???
J8500
11-27-2012, 09:51 PM
By the way I was wrong on what I said the manual j came up to. The actual manual j did come close to 2 ton. The basement ceilings are lower than most basements in this area. Four of the rooms have drop ceilings (7 ft) and the rest of the basement drywall ceilings (8 ft). Most basements around here have 9 ft ceilings.
Bsmith816
11-27-2012, 10:14 PM
If it were my house I would go with company B. the one who is offering the 2 ton Lennox 13hpx-024 with cbx26-024 fan/coil.
I wouldnt go with AMANA. They do make good beef but not air conditioners.
Same with Coleman.. Good camping equipment but not air conditioners
J8500
11-27-2012, 10:28 PM
If it were my house I would go with company B. the one who is offering the 2 ton Lennox 13hpx-024 with cbx26-024 fan/coil.
I wouldnt go with AMANA. They do make good beef but not air conditioners.
Same with Coleman.. Good camping equipment but not air conditioners
Thanks. Right now we are really considering the Lennox because the contractor recommending it seemed to be the most knowledgeable and worked the hardest in evaluating our current system. He also said that a new 12 inch return will be installed as well as enlarging some of the 6 inch supplies to 8 inch. Company C did a good job as well, but something is telling me to go with the Lennox over the Goodman. I will probably make my final decision tomorrow as I'm having one more company come out who sells Rheem.
Twilly
11-28-2012, 06:29 AM
http://www.furnacecompare.com/air-conditioners/goodman/reviews/
Bsmith816
11-28-2012, 09:13 AM
Thanks. Right now we are really considering the Lennox because the contractor recommending it seemed to be the most knowledgeable and worked the hardest in evaluating our current system. He also said that a new 12 inch return will be installed as well as enlarging some of the 6 inch supplies to 8 inch. Company C did a good job as well, but something is telling me to go with the Lennox over the Goodman. I will probably make my final decision tomorrow as I'm having one more company come out who sells Rheem.
You should always go with who you feel comfortable with...if that company sells Lennox I would check on Lennox website to see of they are a Premier dealer or not... If they are premiere then they meet and exceed expectations for cust service. I would stay away from Rheem, Rudd, Coleman, goodman, amana, comfort maker, those are all "throw away" apartment units made poorly.. That's just my opinion.. Low end low quality
motoguy128
11-28-2012, 10:40 AM
http://www.furnacecompare.com/air-conditioners/goodman/reviews/
I enjoyed looking a the ration of very satisfied to very unsatisfied reviewers. I only looked at furnaces. Rheem/Rubb and Trane/AS were both close to 50/50... which is about as good as you'll get on that site. Carrier, Goodman, Coleman and several other were running about 2:1 on bad/good reviews. I like how Trane has a better ratio than AS and Bryant is better than Carrier. That leads me to conclude, that people like to complain when they get a crappy install, and the numbers are pretty much all over the place.
wahoo
11-28-2012, 10:46 AM
Bear in mind there are only 7 major manufacturers and now these few are selling about 50 different brands of units. So Bsmith's opinion is just that. "Upper" and "lower" end talk is pretty well obsolete. Get the best contractor who will install it correctly along with the best warranty coverage. We've replace four (yes 4) heat exchangers just last week in 92% Lennox furnaces we installed back when we sold their equipment. Two of those furnace jobs had previously lost heat exchangers once before and both of these units are on our pre-paid maintenance plan so "lack of care" was not an issue. We survived their "Pulse, and Complete heat" fiascoes, so now we've just got to try and keep our old Lennox customers happy. Like most have said, it's the contractor and not the brand you need to consider! You're doing a good job checking all out!!
wahoo
11-28-2012, 10:51 AM
Moto, I also checked site regarding furnaces and found Trane ranked 27/72 with 38% recommending, Goodman ranked 28/72 with 46% recommending, Amana ranked 31/72 with 43% recommending, and Lennox ranked 40/72 with 38% recommending. Pretty well all over the place!! Or maybe I'm reading results wrong?
Nuclrchiller
11-28-2012, 12:06 PM
I checked that site for Goodman A/C units and the results were quite negative. I could tell from many of them that installation was the issue. Others were simple rants, with no useful info. I especially liked a couple, " I had my installer out 13 times in 3 years on this piece of crap", gotta wonder when it may occur to the HO that the installer may the problem. Or "I know the install is not the problem, because it is a package unit and the installer only had to place it on the ground", hmmm, wonder if ductwork was even looked at. After 27 years in commercial HVAC, with none in resi (except emergency on my own unit), when it was time to replace ours (not a Goodman) I shopped for a reputable installer. Settled on one whose name kept coming up and for the past 9 months we've been very satisfied owners of a Goodman. When cooling season began we woke up one morning to water on the floor near the indoor unit. Before I could remove the return grille in wall below the unit, my wife had called our installer and he was on his way. I found the condensate drain connection to floor "stub" (house is on slab) had water backing up. Looked as though trap in slab was backing up - I didn't think this was his problem, and said so. He insisted on cleaning out the trap, no charge. This was about 8:00 am on Saturday. This the only issue we've had regarding our system, and I believe we got a "freebie" out of it. I believe the overflow was due to increased dehumidification from a more efficient unit resulted in more condensate running into a trap that was already partially restricted. The trap could handle the old flow rate, but could not keep up with the new. I also believe our satisfaction, and happiness with our installer has led to satisfaction and happiness with our Goodman unit.
motoguy128
11-28-2012, 12:51 PM
Moto, I also checked site regarding furnaces and found Trane ranked 27/72 with 38% recommending, Goodman ranked 28/72 with 46% recommending, Amana ranked 31/72 with 43% recommending, and Lennox ranked 40/72 with 38% recommending. Pretty well all over the place!! Or maybe I'm reading results wrong?
I just glanced at it and was only comparing the highest and lowest and ignored the rankings in the middle.
Twilly
11-28-2012, 02:11 PM
Twilly says the results are relavant in that the number of complaints is the highest. generally people only compalin as oppsoed to giving positive responses, the reason most contractors don't like Goodman is the simple fact they sell it all over the internet and secondly they sell it to everybody, are less than responsive to problems and provide little to no training in most areas.
Twilly believes many contractors on this site would do and excellent job. But on face value Twilly would stay away from Goodman.
J8500
11-28-2012, 07:57 PM
I checked that site for Goodman A/C units and the results were quite negative. I could tell from many of them that installation was the issue. Others were simple rants, with no useful info. I especially liked a couple, " I had my installer out 13 times in 3 years on this piece of crap", gotta wonder when it may occur to the HO that the installer may the problem. Or "I know the install is not the problem, because it is a package unit and the installer only had to place it on the ground", hmmm, wonder if ductwork was even looked at. After 27 years in commercial HVAC, with none in resi (except emergency on my own unit), when it was time to replace ours (not a Goodman) I shopped for a reputable installer. Settled on one whose name kept coming up and for the past 9 months we've been very satisfied owners of a Goodman. When cooling season began we woke up one morning to water on the floor near the indoor unit. Before I could remove the return grille in wall below the unit, my wife had called our installer and he was on his way. I found the condensate drain connection to floor "stub" (house is on slab) had water backing up. Looked as though trap in slab was backing up - I didn't think this was his problem, and said so. He insisted on cleaning out the trap, no charge. This was about 8:00 am on Saturday. This the only issue we've had regarding our system, and I believe we got a "freebie" out of it. I believe the overflow was due to increased dehumidification from a more efficient unit resulted in more condensate running into a trap that was already partially restricted. The trap could handle the old flow rate, but could not keep up with the new. I also believe our satisfaction, and happiness with our installer has led to satisfaction and happiness with our Goodman unit.
I just looked at the website and I can tell right away from the bad reviews that installation and/or size were the issue. That's good to here about your experience with Goodman!
catmanacman
11-28-2012, 08:28 PM
lennox is fine equipment although they are quoting the lowest level i would move up to the xp 14
Bsmith816
11-28-2012, 08:37 PM
Yes installation is the number one priority when purchasing new equipment but there definitely is a difference in the quality of products.. I anyone disagrees put a goodman and a Lennox AC unit side by side, take the top off of them and compare the condenser coils and how thick of copper they used.. I can't count how many goodmans I have worked on and found their outdoors coils to have sprung leaks...many of them.. So while installation is number one a difference in quality is a fact!
J8500
11-28-2012, 08:37 PM
The Rheem dealer came in today and He didn't seem to help to much on what the basement really needed. I just said no to the estimate right after he left.
...Well after reading through the estimates from company A and company B, I decided that I'm going with company B. I asked to upgrade the unit up to the XP14 but price was higher so I'm sticking with the Lennox 13HPX and CBX26UH fan coil. This certain contractor just worked the hardest on evaluating the current system and the price was great. Install is set for Friday and I am looking forward to it. Goodman would have been okay for me as well, but I trusted this guy a little bit more than the Goodman dealer. Thanks for all your advice! I will post back after the install if I have any more questions.
J8500
11-29-2012, 02:45 PM
After thinking about it for a while, I called the contractor recommending the Lennox back and I asked about the xp14 again. He said that it would have to be matched up with a CBX32MV. The CBX32MV is variable speed from what he said. He mentioned something about the CBX27UH. The CBX27UH according to Lennox's website said that the air handler features a "high efficiency motor". Could this work as well??
RyanHughes
11-29-2012, 03:10 PM
After thinking about it for a while, I called the contractor recommending the Lennox back and I asked about the xp14 again. He said that it would have to be matched up with a CBX32MV. The CBX32MV is variable speed from what he said. He mentioned something about the CBX27UH. The CBX27UH according to Lennox's website said that the air handler features a "high efficiency motor". Could this work as well??
Yes, the CBX27UH-024 is an approved match with the XP14-024. Quite a bit of an efficiency jump in both heating and cooling compared to the 13HPX with CBX26UH (which has a standard blower motor). 11 EER/13 SEER/8 HSPF with the 13HPX & CBX26UH vs. 13.7 EER/16.2 SEER/9 HSPF with the XP14 & CBX27UH. If you're interested in better efficiency and a quieter outdoor unit, I'd recommend the XP14 with either the CBX27UH or CBX32MV. Being a basement unit, you'll have to decide what it's worth to you.
J8500
11-29-2012, 03:18 PM
Yes, the CBX27UH-024 is an approved match with the XP14-024. Quite a bit of an efficiency jump in both heating and cooling compared to the 13HPX with CBX26UH (which has a standard blower motor). 11 EER/13 SEER/8 HSPF with the 13HPX & CBX26UH vs. 13.7 EER/16.2 SEER/9 HSPF with the XP14 & CBX27UH. If you're interested in better efficiency and a quieter outdoor unit, I'd recommend the XP14 with either the CBX27UH or CBX32MV. Being a basement unit, you'll have to decide what it's worth to you.
I appreciate the info, thanks. Having a variable speed blower will really help with dehumidification, correct? We always spend time in the basement and having a quieter unit is something we really want.
RyanHughes
11-29-2012, 03:40 PM
I appreciate the info, thanks. Having a variable speed blower will really help with dehumidification, correct? We always spend time in the basement and having a quieter unit is something we really want.
The variable speed blower can be set to run an enhanced ramping profile to remove more moisture upon startup. Also, I'd recommend using a thermostat that can slow the blower in cooling mode to dehumidify, such as the Honeywell VisionPRO IAQ.
XP14-024 with CBX32MV-024/030 (check with your installer for actual model number of indoor unit being installed as there is more than one possible matchup) is rated at 12.7 EER, 15.2 SEER, 8.7 HSPF.
J8500
11-29-2012, 03:50 PM
The variable speed blower can be set to run an enhanced ramping profile to remove more moisture upon startup. Also, I'd recommend using a thermostat that can slow the blower in cooling mode to dehumidify, such as the Honeywell VisionPRO IAQ.
XP14-024 with CBX32MV-024/030 (check with your installer for actual model number of indoor unit being installed as there is more than one possible matchup) is rated at 12.7 EER, 15.2 SEER, 8.7 HSPF.
Thank you for the input. I just called the contractor back and he said the model is CBX32MV-024/030. The thermostat being installed will be the Honeywell VisionPRO IAQ.
RyanHughes
11-29-2012, 03:59 PM
Thank you for the input. I just called the contractor back and he said the model is CBX32MV-024/030. The thermostat being installed will be the Honeywell VisionPRO IAQ.
A nice system.
J8500
11-29-2012, 04:02 PM
We will be going with the XP14 and CBX32MV air handler and the install is still set for tomorrow. Thanks for the info on variable speed. As I mentioned on one of my previous posts, I will post back after install if I have anymore questions. Thanks again!
RyanHughes
11-29-2012, 04:23 PM
We will be going with the XP14 and CBX32MV air handler and the install is still set for tomorrow. Thanks for the info on variable speed. As I mentioned on one of my previous posts, I will post back after install if I have anymore questions. Thanks again!
Sounds good. I would just make sure that the blower speed gets adjusted to match the 2 ton unit's requirement (nominally 800 cfm), as the 024/030 comes from the factory set for 1000 CFM for heat pump/cooling mode (suitable for a 2.5 ton unit). Won't get great dehumidification at 500 cfm/ton. They can configure the IAQ thermostat and air handler to reduce the blower speed to 70% of max cooling speed for further dehumidification when the space %RH gets above the setpoint.
J8500
11-29-2012, 05:47 PM
Sounds good. I would just make sure that the blower speed gets adjusted to match the 2 ton unit's requirement (nominally 800 cfm), as the 024/030 comes from the factory set for 1000 CFM for heat pump/cooling mode (suitable for a 2.5 ton unit). Won't get great dehumidification at 500 cfm/ton. They can configure the IAQ thermostat and air handler to reduce the blower speed to 70% of max cooling speed for further dehumidification when the space %RH gets above the setpoint.
Thanks. I will make sure they properly adjust the cfm after its installed.
Bsmith816
11-29-2012, 09:30 PM
Sounds good. I would just make sure that the blower speed gets adjusted to match the 2 ton unit's requirement (nominally 800 cfm), as the 024/030 comes from the factory set for 1000 CFM for heat pump/cooling mode (suitable for a 2.5 ton unit). Won't get great dehumidification at 500 cfm/ton. They can configure the IAQ thermostat and air handler to reduce the blower speed to 70% of max cooling speed for further dehumidification when the space %RH gets above the setpoint.
RyanHughes is 100% right. That is a very nice system. Just make sure that when they are done they show u how to operate the IAQ. if it is setup properly you can access the screen and set the dehumidification level in the summer and the humidification in the winter. That thermostat does it all. Since you Are getting the variable speed u want to make sure they set it up for dehumidification. Also If you are getting a humidifier or if u already have one, have them wire it up to the IAQ. So u can control it from there. You are getting a very nice system but it's not worth anything if it's not all setup properly...installing it is the easy part of the job, setting everything up and testing to make sure all components work is the critical part...hope very thing goes good for you. Keep us posted
catmanacman
11-30-2012, 06:16 AM
you should be happy happy with the new unit
J8500
11-30-2012, 04:26 PM
Thanks! The installers just left an hour ago and I love how quiet the new unit is. Both installers were very nice and efficient, arrived on time, did not rush the job, and worked hard throughout the whole installation and cleaned up after themselves. They showed us how to operate the Honeywell Visionpro IAQ thermostat and installed the new return as required. Blower cfm was properly adjusted and works great. They sealed all the ductwork up as well. Thanks again for all your advice!! So far I don't have any other questions to currently ask.
Twilly
11-30-2012, 04:57 PM
Twilly is glad to hear your glad. So many sad stories on this site.
tedkidd
11-30-2012, 08:42 PM
Company A: Quote #1: Trane XB13 1.5 ton heat pump 4TWB3018C with Air Handler GAF2A0A18S11SA.
Quote #2: Trane XR13 1.5 ton heat pump 4TWR3018C with Air Handler TAM4A0A18. Contractor said thermostat is fine and does not need replacement.
Company B: Quote: Lennox 13HPX 2 ton heat pump (he did not say the exact model) and Air Handler CBX26UH along with new thermostat (don't know what model or brand of thermostat yet)
Company C: Quote: Goodman 2 ton SSZ14 heat pump with Air Handler ASPF 183016 (He did not mention anything about the thermostat)
If you are getting crappy bottom of the bucket no-frills equipment, why do you really think brand matters? Brand matters at the top of the line for features and serviceability.
You need to choose the guy, not the brand.
Did anybody measure airflow? ESP? No? You replacing all the duct? No? Then why the heck are 2 of these bozo's changing size? If the previous equipment worked, why open yourself to the living hell others have experienced by installing oversized equipment to undersized duct?
The 1.5 ton is likely to be much more efficient. It will cycle longer, and in summer dehumidify better. Manual J typically oversizes when done CORRECTLY. You think those bozo's got that right? So now your 1.5 which is too much most of the time goes to 2t which is too much all of the time. AND 1.5 TON IS WHAT YOU HAD!
Go with the guy that recommended 1.5 ton, he's the one most likely to know how to get the job done right.
J8500
11-30-2012, 08:59 PM
If you are getting crappy bottom of the bucket no-frills equipment, why do you really think brand matters? Brand matters at the top of the line for features and serviceability.
You need to choose the guy, not the brand.
Did anybody measure airflow? ESP? No? You replacing all the duct? No? Then why the heck are 2 of these bozo's changing size? If the previous equipment worked, why open yourself to the living hell others have experienced by installing oversized equipment to undersized duct?
The 1.5 ton is likely to be much more efficient. It will cycle longer, and in summer dehumidify better. Manual J typically oversizes when done CORRECTLY. You think those bozo's got that right? So now your 1.5 which is too much most of the time goes to 2t which is too much all of the time. AND 1.5 TON IS WHAT YOU HAD!
Go with the guy that recommended 1.5 ton, he's the one most likely to know how to get the job done right.
I forgot to mention that the supplies for both bedrooms were replaced with 8 inch. All three contractors checked airflow and inspected the ductwork and EVERYTHING. Even with the new unit, the system does not run for a short amount of time. The contractor who recommended the Trane was unwilling to help and he was also very rude. I read the reviews for his company and most of them weren't that good. The other two contractors were very helpful and helped me decide on a very good unit. We plan to finish another room in the basement next summer which the installers ran a new 8 inch duct for. The old system never made the basement feel comfortable. The old air handler was also running at max speed. It's too late now. The new system is in, it does not short cycle, and the cfm is a little over 800. I really liked this company who installed the system. They are one of the top rated companies in my area. I do know that Installer matters more than brand. I liked the features and efficiency the Lennox had.
tedkidd
11-30-2012, 09:14 PM
I didn't see page 2. Guess it was too late to warn you about the airflow issue, and you avoided it anyway.
Sound like you chose the guy you liked, and that worked out well! And you didn't choke the unit, which will mean lower bills and better longevity.
Congratulations!
J8500
11-30-2012, 09:17 PM
I didn't see page 2. Guess it was too late to warn you about the airflow issue, and you avoided it anyway.
Sound like you chose the guy you liked, and that worked out well! And you didn't choke the unit, which will mean lower bills and better longevity.
Congratulations!
Sorry If I took that last post too seriously. Thanks! If any of the contractors ever said that a 2 ton system will be fine with the current ductwork, I would have kicked them right out of my house.
J8500
11-30-2012, 10:21 PM
Good thing that the installers replaced most of the ductwork.
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