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hotntired
11-10-2006, 11:13 AM
I inspected a system for the potential buyer of this home. Went out to check the panel and found this. Look closely.
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/673/panelfj9.jpg
I immediately noticed the top left breaker was oversized, took a pic and closed it up. Not until I uploaded it, did I see this other one. Duh.

KB Cool
11-10-2006, 12:07 PM
12 gauge wire on a 80 or 50 amp breaker?(cant really tell what size breaker it is from the pic, my eyes are bad)

t527ed
11-10-2006, 11:46 PM
lower right, 1 pole circuit on 2 pole breaker.

hotntired
11-11-2006, 09:13 AM
All are hooked up as double pole. Top left is 40a w/ #10 wire, but middle right is 80a w/ #12 wire. God only knows what else is going on in this place.

chaard
11-11-2006, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by t527ed
lower right, 1 pole circuit on 2 pole breaker.

There are two wires on that breaker. But what's with all of the double pole breakers and the white wires and incorrect wire size?

atufano
11-11-2006, 08:34 PM
I'd say call an electrician before they sign.

t527ed
11-11-2006, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by chaard

Originally posted by t527ed
lower right, 1 pole circuit on 2 pole breaker.

There are two wires on that breaker. But what's with all of the double pole breakers and the white wires and incorrect wire size?



yea i looked at it at first on the crappy computer i have at home, second time i looked at the office i saw the other wire hooked up. also could read the 80 amp breaker above it with what looks to be about 12 wire.

srmfsr
11-12-2006, 08:48 AM
Never mind.

troyorr
11-12-2006, 08:50 AM
Look under the last breakers. There are the ground and neutral buss.

daytonafan
11-12-2006, 10:44 AM
WTF is the panel doing on the outside of the house?????

srmfsr
11-12-2006, 11:37 AM
At least half around here are outside. With our stupid rule that the meter can has to be Landis-Geyer, it is cheaper to use a combo than a main disconnect and a panel inside.

daytonafan
11-12-2006, 11:41 AM
Who runs the service calls when it's raining?

hotntired
11-12-2006, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by daytonafan
WTF is the panel doing on the outside of the house?????

Most homes in this area use this setup: Meter w/panel outside, one breaker or more feeds load center on inside.
Most double pole circuits come from outside panel. No single pole breakers allowed in outdoor panel.

srmfsr
11-12-2006, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by daytonafan
Who runs the service calls when it's raining?


Whoever they call.


Here the entire panel is allowed outside. It is a ***** for the homeowner to go outside whenever they trip a breaker.