Any Help

[MrHVA]

Hello,

I'm getting nowhere with the job I'm currently at. Nobody wants to let me do anything besides maintain equipment. I have much more qualifications then being a "maintenance guy". NO disrespect to anyone out there that maintains equipment everyday but it just aint my shtick.


Anybody know how/who to contact at Trane in New York about a job? Seems like I get no where when I apply through their website. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

OR, any other companies hiring at the moment.

Thanks

[qwerty hvac]

In NY where?


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[MrHVA]

Thank you for the reply.

Long Island, NY if possible.....but willing to travel.

[qwerty hvac]

I know Gerster Trane in buffalo was looking for techs.


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[MechanicallyInclined]

No offense, but you must not look good on paper. Don't worry I must not look good on paper either. Trane NYC is a Union sig, they should be looking to the Local Hall before posting online, or inquire to the Local Hall and post online at the same time. I believe JCSS, HBS and Union TBS & HS branches posting online is not along the Agreement guidelines. Now if the Local can't provide HVACR Techs, that's a different story.

[toocoolforschool]

Swallow your pride, stop being egotistical, do the maintenance and learn as much as you can. In other words study the equipment you are working on and learn from it. All systems have something that needs attention. How long have you been in the field? Are you even a qualified technican? Why would a union company hire someone who is not in the union?

[MrHVA]

Swallow your pride, stop being egotistical, do the maintenance and learn as much as you can. In other words study the equipment you are working on and learn from it. All systems have something that needs attention. How long have you been in the field? Are you even a qualified technican? Why would a union company hire someone who is not in the union?

I guess you didn't read the subject of my post. I'll type it again in cased you missed it "ANY HELP", there it's caps now so now you have to see it. Do me a favor don't reply unless you can help, Thanks! Don't be so negative dude, no need to call names.

BTW your questions don't warrnat a response from me. Take Care.

[toocoolforschool]

Just because you perceive it as negative does not mean that it is. Ego is something that we all have to deal with. Ego and pride has been the downfall of many good techs even me. Just because I don't write what you want to hear does not make it any less true. QUOTE=MrHVA;14406911]I guess you didn't read the subject of my post. I'll type it again in cased you missed it "ANY HELP", there it's caps now so now you have to see it. Do me a favor don't reply unless you can help, Thanks! Don't be so negative dude, no need to call names.

BTW your questions don't warrnat a response from me. Take Care.[/QUOTE]

[MrHVA]

Just because you perceive it as negative does not mean that it is. Ego is something that we all have to deal with. Ego and pride has been the downfall of many good techs even me. Just because I don't write what you want to hear does not make it any less true. QUOTE=MrHVA;14406911]I guess you didn't read the subject of my post. I'll type it again in cased you missed it "ANY HELP", there it's caps now so now you have to see it. Do me a favor don't reply unless you can help, Thanks! Don't be so negative dude, no need to call names.

BTW your questions don't warrnat a response from me. Take Care.[/QUOTE]

This post has nothing to do with ego or pride. You're telling me I have an ego by look at my one post??????? cmon man....listen can you help me out or not? It's a Yes or No answer. No need for assumptions. Thanks champ

[TheChillerMan]

Hello,

I'm getting nowhere with the job I'm currently at. Nobody wants to let me do anything besides maintain equipment. I have much more qualifications then being a "maintenance guy". NO disrespect to anyone out there that maintains equipment everyday but it just aint my shtick.


Anybody know how/who to contact at Trane in New York about a job? Seems like I get no where when I apply through their website. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

OR, any other companies hiring at the moment.

Thanks

Trane will post job opening on line even in a union market. I think it's IR policy. The Trane office in Miami regularly posted openings on line even though Miami is union. I never used the union to get a job. I always went directly to the contractor, and told the union where I was working. If you're a good tech, you'll always have a job. Anyway, I digress.

How long ago did you apply on their website? It usually takes 2-3 weeks to get a response. You could always resubmit an application. Are they even hiring? You could always walk in the front door and hand in your resume too. Squeaky wheel gets the grease and all.

[valdelocc]

Trane will post job opening on line even in a union market. I think it's IR policy. The Trane office in Miami regularly posted openings on line even though Miami is union. I never used the union to get a job. I always went directly to the contractor, and told the union where I was working. If you're a good tech, you'll always have a job. Anyway, I digress.

How long ago did you apply on their website? It usually takes 2-3 weeks to get a response. You could always resubmit an application. Are they even hiring? You could always walk in the front door and hand in your resume too. Squeaky wheel gets the grease and all.

You are like a HVAC God, I think you dont need the union! is the union that needs you, I wish I knew what local you belong to, I would call then and congratulate them for having you.

[MechanicallyInclined]

I think if I waited on the Locals to get me a job I'd be like the kid in the V-8 Fusion commercial that doesn't want to eat his veggies. Here in the Southwest - West Texas, New Mexico, Southern Arizona, it's more than cutthroat. You have to get your own jobs.

[jpsmith1cm]

Mr HVA

Before we can give you any real advice, we need to know a bit more about you.

Your words are :
I have much more qualifications then being a "maintenance guy"

What qualifications? What kind of equipment are you talking about maintaining?

[valdelocc]

I think if I waited on the Locals to get me a job I'd be like the kid in the V-8 Fusion commercial that doesn't want to eat his veggies. Here in the Southwest - West Texas, New Mexico, Southern Arizona, it's more than cutthroat. You have to get your own jobs.


Whats the point on being "union" if you behave like a scab?

[MrHVA]

Mr HVA

Before we can give you any real advice, we need to know a bit more about you.

Your words are :

What qualifications? What kind of equipment are you talking about maintaining?

The Equipment I'm maintaining ranges any where from 25 to 100 ton roof top units. Direct fired heating units. Indoor air handling units. Electric Reheats, HOt Water reheats....Furnaces..etc....the list goes on.

I really am not given a chance to actually service/repair these units because there a lot of arrogant self indulged ******** I work with that try to be heroes and look like a superstars any chance they get. Meanwhile, I witnessed one of the so called "top mechanic" I work with blow thermal overloads cuz he wired a simple dual speed motor backwords. Pathetic, if you ask me but whatever thats how it goes in this industry. And then try to justify it by saying " the manufacturer labeled it wrong". YEAH OK! Anyway, I know mistakes happen own up to it or ask someone else for help it won't hurt.

sorry for the rant

so......

any help?

[MrHVA]

Trane will post job opening on line even in a union market. I think it's IR policy. The Trane office in Miami regularly posted openings on line even though Miami is union. I never used the union to get a job. I always went directly to the contractor, and told the union where I was working. If you're a good tech, you'll always have a job. Anyway, I digress.

How long ago did you apply on their website? It usually takes 2-3 weeks to get a response. You could always resubmit an application. Are they even hiring? You could always walk in the front door and hand in your resume too. Squeaky wheel gets the grease and all.


Thanks for the reply chillerman
As far as I know they are hiring. They posted it on the IR career jobsite they have listed on their website. I've been applying since last week. Everyday. Maybe I should just go in to their office. I think its in LIC??

[GT Jets]

The Equipment I'm maintaining ranges any where from 25 to 100 ton roof top units. Direct fired heating units. Indoor air handling units. Electric Reheats, HOt Water reheats....Furnaces..etc....the list goes on.

I really am not given a chance to actually service/repair these units because there a lot of arrogant self indulged ******** I work with that try to be heroes and look like a superstars any chance they get. Meanwhile, I witnessed one of the so called "top mechanic" I work with blow thermal overloads cuz he wired a simple dual speed motor backwords. Pathetic, if you ask me but whatever thats how it goes in this industry. And then try to justify it by saying " the manufacturer labeled it wrong". YEAH OK! Anyway, I know mistakes happen own up to it or ask someone else for help it won't hurt.

sorry for the rant

so......

any help?


Gonna say this out loud only because its bothering me (not really) but... How do you wire a two speed motor "backward"... I am confused

:anyone:

In all honesty what you need to do is attempt to reach out to one of the employees associated with the division you wish to work. Many times it's "who you know".

I want to help you if I can, but you have not really done anything to help yourself as far as this thread.

Schooling? Years in the trade? Desired field? Success stories?

Having worked with some of the most arrogant punks I have ever met all thinking like you are sounding, it was not unreasonable for some on here to ridicule you a bit.

Just my humble opinion, take it or not..... I have a great job :whistle:

GT

[MrHVA]

Gonna say this out loud only because its bothering me (not really) but... How do you wire a two speed motor "backward"... I am confused

:anyone:

In all honesty what you need to do is attempt to reach out to one of the employees associated with the division you wish to work. Many times it's "who you know".

I want to help you if I can, but you have not really done anything to help yourself as far as this thread.

Schooling? Years in the trade? Desired field? Success stories?

Having worked with some of the most arrogant punks I have ever met all thinking like you are sounding, it was not unreasonable for some on here to ridicule you a bit.

Just my humble opinion, take it or not..... I have a great job :whistle:

GT

Like I said he blamed it on "manufacturer labeled the wiring diagram wrong" whatever.

GT Jets, How in the world did you come to the conclusion that I sound like an arrogant punk???? I've been called egotistical and now I'm being called an "arrogant punk" all from asking the kind people on this site for some help. WHAT A JOKE! That is what this post has become.

And you tell me you can't help me because I haven't helped myself. LOL Another joke.

YOU KNOW WHAT FORGET IT I DONT NEED THE HELP. ILL GET IN MYSELF.
Thanks anyway.

[GT Jets]

Like I said he blamed it on "manufacturer labeled the wiring diagram wrong" whatever.

GT Jets, How in the world did you come to the conclusion that I sound like an arrogant punk???? I've been called egotistical and now I'm being called an "arrogant punk" all from asking the kind people on this site for some help. WHAT A JOKE! That is what this post has become.

And you tell me you can't help me because I haven't helped myself. LOL Another joke.

YOU KNOW WHAT FORGET IT I DONT NEED THE HELP. ILL GET IN MYSELF.
Thanks anyway.
Really?

This post all but proves my point.

Humble the hell up and tell us something about yourself.

I said you sounded like an arrogant punk I have worked with. As an example, had a first year apprentice working in our area that thought he was worth Journeyman wage.... So I decided to "test him a little", after asking him about a dozen or so fairly simple questions about the equipment we were working on (hot water boiler) it was apparent he didn't know squat, so I told him that a true journeyman would have been able to answer every question i had just asked him without hesitation, he said "well I am not going to be working on this kind of garbage anyway"...

You have not stated your case very well IMHO.

Chill out and take some constructive criticism without reacting like a five year old. Geeze...

And as for the question about how you wire a two speed motor backward I was asking YOU how he did it, because I don't think you know. And there are occasions when the schematics are incorrect or very easy to misinterpret. FYI Happened to me last week. they had drawn the schematic with the 24V control circuit and the 120 control circuits tied together at two points. Didn't bite me in the ass, but could have. All black wire BTW...

GT

[GT Jets]

Hello,

I'm getting nowhere with the job I'm currently at. Nobody wants to let me do anything besides maintain equipment. I have much more qualifications then being a "maintenance guy". NO disrespect to anyone out there that maintains equipment everyday but it just aint my shtick.


Anybody know how/who to contact at Trane in New York about a job? Seems like I get no where when I apply through their website. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

OR, any other companies hiring at the moment.

Thanks

You just dist maintenance mechanics and you seem surprised you didn't get hired by a high level contractor off the street.. = Arrogant.


I guess you didn't read the subject of my post. I'll type it again in cased you missed it "ANY HELP", there it's caps now so now you have to see it. Do me a favor don't reply unless you can help, Thanks! Don't be so negative dude, no need to call names.

BTW your questions don't warrnat a response from me. Take Care.


You were asked specifics about your qualifications, you came up with insults = Arrogant.



This post has nothing to do with ego or pride. You're telling me I have an ego by look at my one post??????? cmon man....listen can you help me out or not? It's a Yes or No answer. No need for assumptions. Thanks champ

Just pushy =arrogant.

[dandyme]

now lookey there; y'all done made him sull up.

didn't y'all understand; he be the greatest thing to hit the hvac seen:.02:,

since he can't give any qualifications or history of his experience

[Joehvac25]

Kids they all think they know it all, I can't say much I prolly sounded that arrogant to lol


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[ryan1088]

I really am not given a chance to actually service/repair these units because there a lot of arrogant self indulged ******** I work with that try to be heroes and look like a superstars any chance they get.

If this is one of your major reasons for wanting to leave, I hate to inform you that they are everywhere. You will just lose those people and gain another or two.

We have one that reports to the boss when he goes and takes a dump, I'm pretty sure amongst all the other things he finds "wrong".

Good luck! And remember the grass isn't always greener in the pasture next door.

[freonrick]

Sounds like another attitude problem child. First you need to show respect wether you want to or not.

[MrHVA]

If this is one of your major reasons for wanting to leave, I hate to inform you that they are everywhere. You will just lose those people and gain another or two.


It's one of the reasons yeah. I guess I agree with you on finding guys like that everywhere. I'm probably jumping the gun here so, maybe I should just wait it out. I just want a piece of the service end that is it. If they give me one day out of the week to do service I'll be like a kid at a candy store. It's really not much to ask I think.


Good luck! And remember the grass isn't always greener in the pasture next door.

Thank you very much for your advice.

[MrHVA]

Sounds like another attitude problem child. First you need to show respect wether you want to or not.

Actually I think it doesn't sound like "another attitude problem child." BTW I don't know much about you so I won't be judgmental but respect is EARNED. I could careless how many years someone has in the trade, you treat someone like a piece of doodoo I'm almost positive they will get the same treatment back. I never treat anyone with disrespect.

Oh and it's whether not wether!:grin2:

[ryan1088]

There was a similar thread earlier this year of a guy who was cleaning ice machines and said it was boring and he wanted more. He shot his mouth off and had a pretty bad attitude and got blasted here. A short time after he got fired from his job.

My point is attitude is nearly everything. I want you to understand I'm not trying to take a shot at you, I just want you to understand what can happen.

I myself started as a peon doing condenser cleanings, air handler maintenance and the like which aren't nearly as sexy. I learned some valuable lessons there and you can too. Gaining experience from watching someone else jack it up is priceless. Take it all in. While doing your service dig deeper. Don't just clean the air handler, study how it works. Study the controls that control it. Study the wiring. All of this will pay big dividends later when you get a call. Find out where the power is fed from, etc etc.

As far as guys on this site go, if you show a positive attitude and ask directed questions (even if they are stupid) you will always find your answer.

Use the chip on your shoulder as an advantage and not a disadvantage. Out work, out study, out perform all of your coworkers and you will reap the rewards. As I tell the guys I work with...."just go out and do your thing".

[MrHVA]

There was a similar thread earlier this year of a guy who was cleaning ice machines and said it was boring and he wanted more. He shot his mouth off and had a pretty bad attitude and got blasted here. A short time after he got fired from his job.

My point is attitude is nearly everything. I want you to understand I'm not trying to take a shot at you, I just want you to understand what can happen.

I myself started as a peon doing condenser cleanings, air handler maintenance and the like which aren't nearly as sexy. I learned some valuable lessons there and you can too. Gaining experience from watching someone else jack it up is priceless. Take it all in. While doing your service dig deeper. Don't just clean the air handler, study how it works. Study the controls that control it. Study the wiring. All of this will pay big dividends later when you get a call. Find out where the power is fed from, etc etc.

As far as guys on this site go, if you show a positive attitude and ask directed questions (even if they are stupid) you will always find your answer.

Use the chip on your shoulder as an advantage and not a disadvantage. Out work, out study, out perform all of your coworkers and you will reap the rewards. As I tell the guys I work with...."just go out and do your thing".

Ryan1088, WOW,:cheers: I want to THANK YOU VERY MUCH for that reply. It home dude! One of the few replies that actually has made some sense without attacking me. Some people can learn a lot just by reading your reply. Guys that work with you should be very lucky. Once again Thank you for that inspiring reply. You are the man!

[ryan1088]

You bet. Now apply for pro membership so you can start your learning experience from this site!

[GT Jets]

There was a similar thread earlier this year of a guy who was cleaning ice machines and said it was boring and he wanted more. He shot his mouth off and had a pretty bad attitude and got blasted here. A short time after he got fired from his job.

My point is attitude is nearly everything. I want you to understand I'm not trying to take a shot at you, I just want you to understand what can happen.

I myself started as a peon doing condenser cleanings, air handler maintenance and the like which aren't nearly as sexy. I learned some valuable lessons there and you can too. Gaining experience from watching someone else jack it up is priceless. Take it all in. While doing your service dig deeper. Don't just clean the air handler, study how it works. Study the controls that control it. Study the wiring. All of this will pay big dividends later when you get a call. Find out where the power is fed from, etc etc.

As far as guys on this site go, if you show a positive attitude and ask directed questions (even if they are stupid) you will always find your answer.

Use the chip on your shoulder as an advantage and not a disadvantage. Out work, out study, out perform all of your coworkers and you will reap the rewards. As I tell the guys I work with...."just go out and do your thing".

MrHVA, this sentence in itself should shed some light on what others here were shooting at you. :spitball:

ryan1088, way to coddle the new guy. :playing: ... You did it in a way that was both informative and respectful, I sir applaud you. :cheers:

Meant no disrespect to you in my first post on the thread, but you were throwing punches to people responding to you thread and not taking anything positive out of any of it...

I would be willing to bet if you go back through the thread and pick apart all that was said, everything ryan1088 had written would be hidden in there somewhere. This trade can be brutal if you let it.

Humble up, be quiet and learn, your investment of time now will help you in ways you can't even imagine later.

Good luck and I apologize if I offended you, but you were being sort of a little butt....;)

GT

[jpsmith1cm]

The Equipment I'm maintaining ranges any where from 25 to 100 ton roof top units. Direct fired heating units. Indoor air handling units. Electric Reheats, HOt Water reheats....Furnaces..etc....the list goes on.

I really am not given a chance to actually service/repair these units because there a lot of arrogant self indulged ******** I work with that try to be heroes and look like a superstars any chance they get. Meanwhile, I witnessed one of the so called "top mechanic" I work with blow thermal overloads cuz he wired a simple dual speed motor backwords. Pathetic, if you ask me but whatever thats how it goes in this industry. And then try to justify it by saying " the manufacturer labeled it wrong". YEAH OK! Anyway, I know mistakes happen own up to it or ask someone else for help it won't hurt.

sorry for the rant

so......

any help?

You failed to answer the second part of my question.

What qualifications do you have?

This isn't rookie stuff you're dealing with, and pointing fingers of blame at everyone around you isn't a great way to get a break in this trade.

[jpsmith1cm]

There was a similar thread earlier this year of a guy who was cleaning ice machines and said it was boring and he wanted more. He shot his mouth off and had a pretty bad attitude and got blasted here. A short time after he got fired from his job.

My point is attitude is nearly everything. I want you to understand I'm not trying to take a shot at you, I just want you to understand what can happen.

I myself started as a peon doing condenser cleanings, air handler maintenance and the like which aren't nearly as sexy. I learned some valuable lessons there and you can too. Gaining experience from watching someone else jack it up is priceless. Take it all in. While doing your service dig deeper. Don't just clean the air handler, study how it works. Study the controls that control it. Study the wiring. All of this will pay big dividends later when you get a call. Find out where the power is fed from, etc etc.

As far as guys on this site go, if you show a positive attitude and ask directed questions (even if they are stupid) you will always find your answer.

Use the chip on your shoulder as an advantage and not a disadvantage. Out work, out study, out perform all of your coworkers and you will reap the rewards. As I tell the guys I work with...."just go out and do your thing".


I remember that one.

:Faint:

Another noob that knew it all...

[MrHVA]

You failed to answer the second part of my question.

What qualifications do you have?

This isn't rookie stuff you're dealing with, and pointing fingers of blame at everyone around you isn't a great way to get a break in this trade.

I started this thread with a question. That question was "does anybody know how/who to contact at Trane in New York about a job?" Qwerty Hvac was the only person to come close.

Why do you need to know my qualifications? I just don't see the need. I feel that I don't have to answer your question about my qualification for a number of reasons:

1) I don't think I will be applying for pro.

2) I don't think you'll help me get a new job

3) I am not giving out advice on HVAC.

So, I'm sorry but I'm not going to answer your question.

[qwerty hvac]

I started this thread with a question. That question was "does anybody know how/who to contact at Trane in New York about a job?" Qwerty Hvac was the only person to come close.

Why do you need to know my qualifications? I just don't see the need. I feel that I don't have to answer your question about my qualification for a number of reasons:

1) I don't think I will be applying for pro.

2) I don't think you'll help me get a new job

3) I am not giving out advice on HVAC.

So, I'm sorry but I'm not going to answer your question.

Your welcome!


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[qwerty hvac]

MrHva, don't get turned away from this forum because of a couple of guys. We are always trying to help for the most part. I have learned a lot here as have all of the other posters in this thread. You should apply for pro so you can learn more. You never stop learning in this trade because new equipment is coming out every day.


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[GT Jets]

I started this thread with a question. That question was "does anybody know how/who to contact at Trane in New York about a job?" Qwerty Hvac was the only person to come close.

Why do you need to know my qualifications? I just don't see the need. I feel that I don't have to answer your question about my qualification for a number of reasons:



Gonna use my prick coupon on this one.....:whistle:



1) I don't think I will be applying for pro. On what grounds does that have to do with anything?




2) I don't think you'll help me get a new job

Then why the hell are you here asking for help? There very well could be one of the posters able to do just that (offer you a job) you never know who is posting, could be a service manager of the company your asking about...Think about it.




3) I am not giving out advice on HVAC.

That was apparent with your first post.




So, I'm sorry but I'm not going to answer your question.

Never thought you were. You made it quite clear that you're so good at what you do that us losers would not know what you were talking about because it was so cutting edge... (feeling the sarcasm? I laid it on quite thick)...:whistle:



Since you wont answer the questions, I will improvise...:grin2:

You sound like someone who has been in the trade for about two to three years. (am I close?), you have been to little to no formal training but already think you know more than everybody and don't accept help when it is offered to you. You also sound like someone that has little to no respect for people that can actually teach you a thing or two at your job. I know I don't want to help someone who can't help themselves and are cocky about it.
You also sound like someone that thinks that everything your being payed to do is below you, this will be your demise if not changed.

I've been around the block a few times, I have seen this trade chew people up and spit them out, I make EXCELLENT money doing what I do, I genuinely love my job and want to help people who do the same. The trade IMHO does not need more people with your attitude, there are too many already.

Cool your jets a bit and you will get there. Trust me on this one.

GT

[jpsmith1cm]

I started this thread with a question. That question was "does anybody know how/who to contact at Trane in New York about a job?" Qwerty Hvac was the only person to come close.

Why do you need to know my qualifications? I just don't see the need. I feel that I don't have to answer your question about my qualification for a number of reasons:

1) I don't think I will be applying for pro.

2) I don't think you'll help me get a new job

3) I am not giving out advice on HVAC.

So, I'm sorry but I'm not going to answer your question.

What I'm hearing is "I can't get out of maintenance but I've got qualifications"

Asking what those qualifications are is a valid question.

If you've got NATE and an EPA card, you've got SQUAT. It's meaningless. Every kid coming out of tech school has that and thinks that they should make top wages.

Now, if you've got some REAL qualifications it becomes a different matter.


It sounds to me as if you fall into the first category that I describe, so here is my advice to you.

Suck up your attitude, do the jobs given to you and try to learn something.

[jpsmith1cm]

Then why the hell are you here asking for help? There very well could be one of the posters able to do just that (offer you a job) you never know who is posting, could be a service manager of the company your asking about...Think about it.



Excellent point, GT.

Many people have been hired from posts on this site.

My company hired one and he's turned out to be a phenomenal asset to the company.

Also, people who do hiring read this site.

It wouldn't take too sharp of a person at NY Trane to put your story together with your application...

In one thread, you've badmouthed your co-workers and taken shots at people who are trying to give you assistance.

Not exactly what I would look for in a candidate for hire.

[Frosty28]

I'm kind of in the same boat that you are. I am 40 years old fresh from trade school, and got hired on about 4 months ago as a installer. I went into this line of work because I am good at problem solving and troubleshooting, and felt that service work would be a good fit for me.

I am partnered with a 32 year old guy who is so full of himself its sickening sometimes. To him he is perfect in every aspect of his personal and work life. I also hear him say on several occasions daily referring to other people in the company as idiots, and I am sure I am included in that. He even went so far as to tell me that he is so good if he left the company they would go out of business ( been in business for 52 years :rolleyes: ). He is very good at sheetmetal work though and I have learned a lot from him in this short time.

For the first time in a long time I find myself asking other people how to do something, and it has been humiliating at times. Sometimes in life you just have to suck it up and deal with it. Your opportunity will come someday, in the mean time learn some humility. Being confident is good, being cocky is not.

[supertek65]

Funny!
I am the service supervisor for a $30 million company.

There was a guy on here i had thought about hiring.

I made a comment or a joke about his skills.
He freaked out and went bullistic on me!
He never knew who i was and missed out on a great opportunity.

He never gave up!
Similar to this OP.

Maybe the OP should just
Chillax?

[supertek65]

Ryan
You are still a peon !!!!





Lmao

[ryan1088]

Funny!
I am the service supervisor for a $30 million company.

There was a guy on here i had thought about hiring.

I made a comment or a joke about his skills.
He freaked out and went bullistic on me!
He never knew who i was and missed out on a great opportunity.

He never gave up!
Similar to this OP.

Maybe the OP should just
Chillax?

You shouldn't talk about me like that, I'm right here you know.....

[ryan1088]

Ryan
You are still a peon !!!!





Lmao

I run the show where I'm at, dogg. Haha.

[supertek65]

Wat up dogg?

[supertek65]

Btw
Where does one purchase the aforementioned "prick card ?"

[valdelocc]

Funny!
I am the service supervisor for a $30 million company.



Im the service supervisor for a $31 millions company:grin2:

[supertek65]

After this next job it will be a $32 million company.

[freonrick]

I'm kind of in the same boat that you are. I am 40 years old fresh from trade school, and got hired on about 4 months ago as a installer. I went into this line of work because I am good at problem solving and troubleshooting, and felt that service work would be a good fit for me.

I am partnered with a 32 year old guy who is so full of himself its sickening sometimes. To him he is perfect in every aspect of his personal and work life. I also hear him say on several occasions daily referring to other people in the company as idiots, and I am sure I am included in that. He even went so far as to tell me that he is so good if he left the company they would go out of business ( been in business for 52 years :rolleyes: ). He is very good at sheetmetal work though and I have learned a lot from him in this short time.

For the first time in a long time I find myself asking other people how to do something, and it has been humiliating at times. Sometimes in life you just have to suck it up and deal with it. Your opportunity will come someday, in the mean time learn some humility. Being confident is good, being cocky is not.

There is nothing wrong with asking for help, thats one way we learn. Too much out there for any one person to know.

[GT Jets]

I'm kind of in the same boat that you are. I am 40 years old fresh from trade school, and got hired on about 4 months ago as a installer. I went into this line of work because I am good at problem solving and troubleshooting, and felt that service work would be a good fit for me.

I am partnered with a 32 year old guy who is so full of himself its sickening sometimes. To him he is perfect in every aspect of his personal and work life. I also hear him say on several occasions daily referring to other people in the company as idiots, and I am sure I am included in that. He even went so far as to tell me that he is so good if he left the company they would go out of business ( been in business for 52 years :rolleyes: ). He is very good at sheetmetal work though and I have learned a lot from him in this short time.

For the first time in a long time I find myself asking other people how to do something, and it has been humiliating at times. Sometimes in life you just have to suck it up and deal with it. Your opportunity will come someday, in the mean time learn some humility. Being confident is good, being cocky is not.

Perhaps if you change it up a little as far as how you ask it wont be so humiliating... For example "what is the right way to do such and such".

The person that does not ask a question on something they no little about, will no little about it for a long time. Food for thought.


Btw
Where does one purchase the aforementioned "prick card ?"

I seem to get two a year, they are free....
All you have to do to earn them is to bite your tongue more often than not and wait for someone to say or do something so stupid that when you point it out they step up the stupid to a new high... :toetap:

I have used mine up this year.....:whistle:

GT :grin2:

[valdelocc]

After this next job it will be a $32 million company.

just got off the phone with miss cleo and she said you were either the middle child or came from a broken family:grin2:

[Joehvac25]

just got off the phone with miss cleo and she said you were either the middle child or came from a broken family:grin2:

The cards they don't lie maan


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[supertek65]

Miss cleo is a liar!

Dont believe anything she says!!!

[qwerty hvac]

just got off the phone with miss cleo and she said you were either the middle child or came from a broken family:grin2:

Miss Cleo? Isn't she dead? Oh wait she can talk from the grave. Lol


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[Joehvac25]

Miss cleo is a liar!

Dont believe anything she says!!!

Good I knew when she said you were hung like a horse and the bestest tech ever she was exaggerating


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[valdelocc]

hung like a horse


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LOL..... more like a pony.... ask Helen :grin2:

[supertek65]

Sometimes miss cleo is right!

[wicat3]

From what I read heres what I can tell you, which might not be much but maybe it will. First thing jobs seem to be taking a long time to get back to people know a days. I have waited 2 months before for people to get back to. Also if you are going for a union job you might be going back to what
your doing know and PMing units.

I know most people hate PMs but I know alot of guys who say this and truly believe that PMs can help you become a better tech. You can learn alot from them, Anything from how the units work to a unit having an issue and needing repairs.

Alot of guys on here are giving you greif because they dont have any idea who you are and what you know. For all they know you are 2 months out of some tech college with your first job. Maybe you just passed your test and your out in the feild by yourself and think your better then PMs, maybe you are but we dont know that from what you have posted. You have to reliaze that for if you go into a job interview like that I wouldnt hire you. Its one thing to have confidence but another thing to think your better then the job or the people you work with. Theres alot to learn here but you have to remember alot of guys here need information to help like anything else.

[John Culpepper]

Btw
Where does one purchase the aforementioned "prick card ?"

I want one. so does my dog. that way noone questions my actions or his. :angel:my dog is acomplete asshead.:grin2:

[supertek65]

John
I grant you and your dog two prick cards each!

[Mrak]

A lot of good advice these last 5 pages. Read between the lines and get thicker skin and you will learn a lot.

[MrHVA]

What I'm hearing is "I can't get out of maintenance but I've got qualifications"

Asking what those qualifications are is a valid question.

If you've got NATE and an EPA card, you've got SQUAT. It's meaningless. Every kid coming out of tech school has that and thinks that they should make top wages.



It sounds to me as if you fall into the first category that I describe, so here is my advice to you.

Suck up your attitude, do the jobs given to you and try to learn something.

WOW! This is truely shocking. jpsmith1cm you're giving me advice when you're telling me that NATE ...Yes....NATE the people that sponsor on this website....in your own words "NATE means SQUAT." I should take advice from a guy that is bashing the same company that does business with this website, that I'm guessing you're affiliated with?? So, NATE means SQUAT, got it! Oh yeah same goes for the EPA. Alright thanks for the advice I hope I can use this in my career.

Unreal.

[syndicated]

WOW! This is truely shocking. jpsmith1cm you're giving me advice when you're telling me that NATE ...Yes....NATE the people that sponsor on this website....in your own words "NATE means SQUAT." I should take advice from a guy that is bashing the same company that does business with this website, that I'm guessing you're affiliated with?? So, NATE means SQUAT, got it! Oh yeah same goes for the EPA. Alright thanks for the advice I hope I can use this in my career.

Unreal.

Lol, NATE is a joke. Service experts made me take that junk.
It's HVAC for dummies!

[GT Jets]

WOW! This is truely shocking. jpsmith1cm you're giving me advice when you're telling me that NATE ...Yes....NATE the people that sponsor on this website....in your own words "NATE means SQUAT." I should take advice from a guy that is bashing the same company that does business with this website, that I'm guessing you're affiliated with?? So, NATE means SQUAT, got it! Oh yeah same goes for the EPA. Alright thanks for the advice I hope I can use this in my career.

Unreal.

I am certain he meant"by itself" it means squat. Many times we get what is known a textbook tech. Sounds like JP stuck a nerve.

You really need to grow up and get a pair.

Do you have any idea how childish you sound?

BTW, you need to have an EPA cert just to have gauges, so yeah, squat.

GT

[MrHVA]

Now I sound childish? This gets better and better.

Hey, I wonder if a Bachelor Of Science degree means SQUAT as well? (can't wait 'till I here the asnwers)

[supertek65]

A BS aan EPA 608 certification and a couple of NATE certifications should increase your propability of getting a job.
Where I am at those items may help you get hired as a first year apprentice.
After that, you would need to work hard, learn and have a good attitude and you could keep your job.

[freonrick]

I can see why you are not getting any where with that attitude.

What is your qualifications? Experience? Time in the field? How is your people skills? never mind on that we know already.

[Keith73]

OK, Here is another way to look at it. Most companies will have new guys do routine maintenance until they know he's not going to screw up a major account or something of that nature. Routine Maintenance is not routine lots of time. Analyzing a system during that process and finding problems or soon to be problems is part of it also. If guys doing maintenance are missing things that others are having to follow up on, that extends their stay in maintenance.
Oh, and if you are "lucky enough" :-) to end up in a 140 degree attic some day trying to sort out someone else's rats nest of a wiring job, you just may wish you were outside cleaning coils.

[wicat3]

Your not giving anybody any information on your qualifications. Like the others said most people have good test taking skills get a few certs from NATE and an epa and think they can do it all. I have a buddy I worked with and graduated from tech school with and the guy could not get out of the text book. He would charge a system being 60 degrees out but he was doing everything like it was a 90 degree day. When brought up that it wasnt 90 he was like a deer in headlights as to what to do. Alot of guys are not great at test but in the feild is another story. I dont take much from people saying they have a degree or certification becuase I have met to many people who take a test like its there job and when they go do the job there a complete reject. For all we know your maintence job is your first job in the field and you have only been there 2 months

[GT Jets]

Now I sound childish? This gets better and better.

Hey, I wonder if a Bachelor Of Science degree means SQUAT as well? (can't wait 'till I here the asnwers)


Yes, childish, I don't think you have handled yourself maturely more than one time in this thread.

I am a union service Journeyman and when you turn out you have a BS, an EPA Cert., are Star certified and have attended at least one factory training program. I have been to Trane Centrifugal classes, LEED accreditation classes, Eaton VFD service and start up certification, JCI Metasys training, Electric motor troubleshooting, Vibration and balance classes, advanced electrical troubleshooting classes, welding certification classes among many others, does not make me an expert in any of them, not even close.

I have diagnosed, estimated and repaired 2000 ton centrifugal chillers, installed and commissioned dozens of VFD's in various pieces of equipment, written programs for building automation, been involved in NUMEROUS Green Build Leed certified projects, many of them Gold or Platinum, worked on clean rooms and labs to obtain ridiculous specs. among many more I'm sure...

So there, do you feel better now?, I have shown you mine....

So from what you have given us so far, you have not set yourself apart from an apprentice. Not by a long shot.

Again, "text book technician"....


I am finding it a little hard to believe that you have not humbled up even a little bit with the VAST MAJORITY of the posters in YOUR thread giving you great feedback about your attitude.

We have hired some pretty good guys out of the trade schools and local colleges and they are barely entry level, they know some terminology and theory, but when it comes down to actually troubleshooting, writing up and ultimately repairing they are humbled virtually immediately. They get better by asking intelligent questions and being the "grunt" for a year or two before getting into a zone. We all need assistance once in a while, that is why this site exists IMHO. Anybody who claims to know it all fakes it a lot.....Or is very lucky.

Just my humble observations.

GT

[jpsmith1cm]

WOW! This is truely shocking. jpsmith1cm you're giving me advice when you're telling me that NATE ...Yes....NATE the people that sponsor on this website....in your own words "NATE means SQUAT." I should take advice from a guy that is bashing the same company that does business with this website, that I'm guessing you're affiliated with?? So, NATE means SQUAT, got it! Oh yeah same goes for the EPA. Alright thanks for the advice I hope I can use this in my career.

Unreal.

NATE certification and a buck and a half will get you a cup of coffee in most cities.

What it WON'T do is make up for a poor attitude, which it sounds like you have.

There are no shortcuts and there are no freebies.

My 11 year old could memorize and regurgitate the facts required to pass an EPA test. It isn't a big deal, PLUS, it is rapidly becoming meaningless in our trade as HFC refrigerants take over.

[jpsmith1cm]

Now I sound childish? This gets better and better.

Hey, I wonder if a Bachelor Of Science degree means SQUAT as well? (can't wait 'till I here the asnwers)

I've worked with guys with that same degree.

I have to say that I wasn't impressed with their knowledge and abilities straight out of school.

Guess what they did for 2-3 years?


If you guessed PMs, you'd be right.

[Joehvac25]

Pms are just a fact of life for a newb. Just be glad your working, I'm sure there are 20 people ready to take your job
When you get canned


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[supertek65]

we have had many with that degree not even make it through the first year probationary period!!!!!! LMAO!!!!!!!!!

then again one of our best guys has that degree???????????????????

i said it earlier

it MAY? help you get a job and that is it!

MAY???????????????????




I've worked with guys with that same degree.

I have to say that I wasn't impressed with their knowledge and abilities straight out of school.

Guess what they did for 2-3 years?


If you guessed PMs, you'd be right.

[supertek65]

for what its worth?

in the early 90's I worked for a shop with about 30 guys.
3 of them had law degrees or JD and had passed the BAR exam??????????????

go figure??????????


I have a GED or i think i do?
if i do I lost it about 30 years ago?

GED or no GED, I seem to be pretty good at fixing air conditioners??????

or at least my boss thinks I am good at it!!!!!!!! LMAO!!!!!!!!!

[Southern Mech]

Funny thread. 17 years in the trade, work for Trane, still maintain equipment for proper operation and buildings for proper performance.

Dude, unless your banging duct together, your maintaining equipment.

[ryan1088]

for what its worth?

in the early 90's I worked for a shop with about 30 guys.
3 of them had law degrees or JD and had passed the BAR exam??????????????

go figure??????????


I have a GED or i think i do?
if i do I lost it about 30 years ago?

GED or no GED, I seem to be pretty good at fixing air conditioners??????

or at least my boss thinks I am good at it!!!!!!!! LMAO!!!!!!!!!

You don't fix anything anymore. Your "people" do!

[jpsmith1cm]

You don't fix anything anymore. Your "people" do!

I fix the things that my people cannot....

:whistle:

[ryan1088]

I fix the things that my people cannot....

:whistle:

I know you do, we were talking about Frank here!!!

It feels like things have snowballed on me lately, like there's no catching up to the work load?

I actually spent all day washing condensers!!!

[jpsmith1cm]

I know you do, we were talking about Frank here!!!

It feels like things have snowballed on me lately, like there's no catching up to the work load?

I actually spent all day washing condensers!!!

It wasn't too long ago that I offered to pay my boss a hundred bucks to let me turn my phone off for 8 hours and wash condensers.

In the middle of the summer that we had, I'd have done it, too.

[Joehvac25]

It wasn't too long ago that I offered to pay my boss a hundred bucks to let me turn my phone off for 8 hours and wash condensers.

In the middle of the summer that we had, I'd have done it, too.

It's funny when your a grunt you can't wait to have some responsibility, then when that happens you wish you could just take orders and forget the stress.


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[qwerty hvac]

It's funny when your a grunt you can't wait to have some responsibility, then when that happens you wish you could just take orders and forget the stress.


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[automig]

you're not going to last long in an apprenticeship if no one wants to work with you. it seems like you're having that problem already.

if your shop tells you to mow the lawn and fetch the coffee, get it done! you're paid by the hour, right? not the complaint? who cares what work you have to knock out!

you're the grunt, it's your job to show up first, work the hardest, and tell some funny stories.

[supertek65]

good point Ryan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL!



You don't fix anything anymore. Your "people" do!

[supertek65]

and bring your journeyman coffee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


you're not going to last long in an apprenticeship if no one wants to work with you. it seems like you're having that problem already.

if your shop tells you to mow the lawn and fetch the coffee, get it done! you're paid by the hour, right? not the complaint? who cares what work you have to knock out!

you're the grunt, it's your job to show up first, work the hardest, and tell some funny stories.

[MrHVA]

and bring your journeyman coffee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let me explain something to all you people that think I have a bad attitude. The job I work for now loves me. I get a long with everyone and never turn down any job! But I never have and never will kiss any journeyman's a**. You think you'll get coffee too, that'll be the day. You got the wrong guy.

I did my time in the industry and I worked very ard to get my degree and certs. You guys on here think paper means nothing but it does in the real world trust me. I know how to turn a wrench not just a " textbook tech". I strongly believe that changing filters and belts does not make you a good mechanic. It's hog wash. Finding out why the machine is broken, or why did the comp. trip out, or why it's not cooling is what makes a good mech. Repairing the machine and finding out why certain things happen. Honestly if you're telling me you have to time examine a machine while you're PMing it then I'd think that you'd probably get one machine done a day. Which means in my company you're out the door.

The workers here know what type of person I am and they don't want me to excel because they know I will succeed at anything and the company will count on me rather than them. They are threatened by me. But that's ok because trust me. My drive and my work ethics will get me where I need to be.

[supertek65]

LMAO!



Let me explain something to all you people that think I have a bad attitude. The job I work for now loves me. I get a long with everyone and never turn down any job! But I never have and never will kiss any journeyman's a**. You think you'll get coffee too, that'll be the day. You got the wrong guy.

I did my time in the industry and I worked very ard to get my degree and certs. You guys on here think paper means nothing but it does in the real world trust me. I know how to turn a wrench not just a " textbook tech". I strongly believe that changing filters and belts does not make you a good mechanic. It's hog wash. Finding out why the machine is broken, or why did the comp. trip out, or why it's not cooling is what makes a good mech. Repairing the machine and finding out why certain things happen. Honestly if you're telling me you have to time examine a machine while you're PMing it then I'd think that you'd probably get one machine done a day. Which means in my company you're out the door.

The workers here know what type of person I am and they don't want me to excel because they know I will succeed at anything and the company will count on me rather than them. They are threatened by me. But that's ok because trust me. My drive and my work ethics will get me where I need to be.

[supertek65]

i did not read this part earlier!

ROFL!
LMAO!

my wife and daughter just read this and they are still laughing!
Helen asked if I could forward this to her sister in LA!!!!!!!!!::DD:



Let me explain something to all you people that think I have a bad attitude. The job I work for now loves me. I get a long with everyone and never turn down any job! But I never have and never will kiss any journeyman's a**. You think you'll get coffee too, that'll be the day. You got the wrong guy.

I did my time in the industry and I worked very ard to get my degree and certs. You guys on here think paper means nothing but it does in the real world trust me. I know how to turn a wrench not just a " textbook tech". I strongly believe that changing filters and belts does not make you a good mechanic. It's hog wash. Finding out why the machine is broken, or why did the comp. trip out, or why it's not cooling is what makes a good mech. Repairing the machine and finding out why certain things happen. Honestly if you're telling me you have to time examine a machine while you're PMing it then I'd think that you'd probably get one machine done a day. Which means in my company you're out the door.

The workers here know what type of person I am and they don't want me to excel because they know I will succeed at anything and the company will count on me rather than them. They are threatened by me. But that's ok because trust me. My drive and my work ethics will get me where I need to be.

[GT Jets]

Let me explain something to all you people that think I have a bad attitude. The job I work for now loves me. I get a long with everyone and never turn down any job! But I never have and never will kiss any journeyman's a**. You think you'll get coffee too, that'll be the day. You got the wrong guy.

I did my time in the industry and I worked very ard to get my degree and certs. You guys on here think paper means nothing but it does in the real world trust me. I know how to turn a wrench not just a " textbook tech". I strongly believe that changing filters and belts does not make you a good mechanic. It's hog wash. Finding out why the machine is broken, or why did the comp. trip out, or why it's not cooling is what makes a good mech. Repairing the machine and finding out why certain things happen. Honestly if you're telling me you have to time examine a machine while you're PMing it then I'd think that you'd probably get one machine done a day. Which means in my company you're out the door.

The workers here know what type of person I am and they don't want me to excel because they know I will succeed at anything and the company will count on me rather than them. They are threatened by me. But that's ok because trust me. My drive and my work ethics will get me where I need to be.

Just keep repeating this to yourself maybe it will come true..

Truth is, they don't want you to excel because your an arrogant ass... They're probably waiting for you to humble up.

Remember when I said "you think every job you do is beneath you, it will be your demise if not changed".... It is even more true in my eyes after reading this post.

For the record, it has nothing to do with kissing asses, but having a respect that can be felt by everyone you work with. Does not matter how large or small a shop is, this is ALWAYS the case.

Honestly I think until you learn this elementary ideal, you will never be happy in your work.

GT

[GT Jets]

Let me explain something to all you people that think I have a bad attitude. The job I work for now loves me. I get a long with everyone and never turn down any job! But I never have and never will kiss any journeyman's a**. You think you'll get coffee too, that'll be the day. You got the wrong guy.

If everyone "loves" you then why are we having a discussion about people you work with holding you down?



I did my time in the industry and I worked very ard to get my degree and certs. You guys on here think paper means nothing but it does in the real world trust me. I know how to turn a wrench not just a " textbook tech".

Yes, OK fine, but you never told ANYONE on here what you even had, so they don't even mean a damn thing to you....

Again, it has been said that they me nothing by themselves.... They are a great enhancement to someone that has the rest.



I strongly believe that changing filters and belts does not make you a good mechanic

Your wrong......... Simple as that. Explanation; Learning the discipline to change filters and belts, clean coils, pull burners and clean condensate pans is something most (if not all) of us have gone through... I have one rule that may give a clue to how my brain works, I will NEVER ask someone to do something I either have not done or will not do myself.


It's hog wash. Finding out why the machine is broken, or why did the comp. trip out, or why it's not cooling is what makes a good mech. Repairing the machine and finding out why certain things happen.

In all honesty, I call BS, it is harder to find a problem on a machine you're performing a PM on that still runs but maybe not optimally. Once it's broken, that's easy, it's keeping it from breaking that is the challenge, why else would someone pay you for a "Preventive Maintenance"?
You missed the mark by a mile here.


Honestly if you're telling me you have to time examine a machine while you're PMing it then I'd think that you'd probably get one machine done a day. Which means in my company you're out the door.

The way my company works is, a PM is checking the operation of the machine while servicing it, this is where 50%+ of our work load comes from.
You sound like a filter vendor. If all you did was change the filter and check the belt, that IMHO is NOT a PM.



The workers here know what type of person I am and they don't want me to excel because they know I will succeed at anything and the company will count on me rather than them. They are threatened by me. But that's ok because trust me. My drive and my work ethics will get me where I need to be.

Is the sky blue where you come from? See the first lines of this post you made...Hypocrite. People who "love you" will do everything in their power to help you excel.

After trying to talk some sense in to you I have come to realize that some people just can't be helped, hope you find what your looking for and have the common sense to keep it.

Good travels.

GT

[jpsmith1cm]

Let me explain something to all you people that think I have a bad attitude. The job I work for now loves me. I get a long with everyone and never turn down any job! But I never have and never will kiss any journeyman's a**. You think you'll get coffee too, that'll be the day. You got the wrong guy.

I did my time in the industry and I worked very ard to get my degree and certs. You guys on here think paper means nothing but it does in the real world trust me. I know how to turn a wrench not just a " textbook tech". I strongly believe that changing filters and belts does not make you a good mechanic. It's hog wash. Finding out why the machine is broken, or why did the comp. trip out, or why it's not cooling is what makes a good mech. Repairing the machine and finding out why certain things happen. Honestly if you're telling me you have to time examine a machine while you're PMing it then I'd think that you'd probably get one machine done a day. Which means in my company you're out the door.

The workers here know what type of person I am and they don't want me to excel because they know I will succeed at anything and the company will count on me rather than them. They are threatened by me. But that's ok because trust me. My drive and my work ethics will get me where I need to be.

I apologize to you for being so harsh, earlier.

Clearly, I was in the wrong.

I hope that, when you own the HVAC world in a few years, you'll consider letting me keep my job.

[Southern Mech]

Attitude is directly related to your altitude. The OP is not taking off soon.

If paper credentials are so important why is there so many college grads on the unemployment line?? A piece of paper dies not instill craftsmanship and obviously a good attitude in your case.

[toocoolforschool]

The Equipment I'm maintaining ranges any where from 25 to 100 ton roof top units. Direct fired heating units. Indoor air handling units. Electric Reheats, HOt Water reheats....Furnaces..etc....the list goes on.

I really am not given a chance to actually service/repair these units because there a lot of arrogant self indulged ******** I work with that try to be heroes and look like a superstars any chance they get. Meanwhile, I witnessed one of the so called "top mechanic" I work with blow thermal overloads cuz he wired a simple dual speed motor backwords. Pathetic, if you ask me but whatever thats how it goes in this industry. And then try to justify it by saying " the manufacturer labeled it wrong". YEAH OK! Anyway, I know mistakes happen own up to it or ask someone else for help it won't hurt.

sorry for the rant

so......

any help?

But there is no ego here.

[toocoolforschool]

I started this thread with a question. That question was "does anybody know how/who to contact at Trane in New York about a job?" Qwerty Hvac was the only person to come close.

Why do you need to know my qualifications? I just don't see the need. I feel that I don't have to answer your question about my qualification for a number of reasons:

1) I don't think I will be applying for pro.

2) I don't think you'll help me get a new job

3) I am not giving out advice on HVAC.

So, I'm sorry but I'm not going to answer your question.

That's because six months at trade school doesn't really count for much.

[toocoolforschool]

Let me explain something to all you people that think I have a bad attitude. The job I work for now loves me. I get a long with everyone and never turn down any job! But I never have and never will kiss any journeyman's a**. You think you'll get coffee too, that'll be the day. You got the wrong guy.

I did my time in the industry and I worked very ard to get my degree and certs. You guys on here think paper means nothing but it does in the real world trust me. I know how to turn a wrench not just a " textbook tech". I strongly believe that changing filters and belts does not make you a good mechanic. It's hog wash. Finding out why the machine is broken, or why did the comp. trip out, or why it's not cooling is what makes a good mech. Repairing the machine and finding out why certain things happen. Honestly if you're telling me you have to time examine a machine while you're PMing it then I'd think that you'd probably get one machine done a day. Which means in my company you're out the door.

The workers here know what type of person I am and they don't want me to excel because they know I will succeed at anything and the company will count on me rather than them. They are threatened by me. But that's ok because trust me. My drive and my work ethics will get me where I need to be.

Whaaaatever. This is very good stuff.

[toocoolforschool]

I know a lot of techs who stilol can't do pm

[supertek65]

Rofl!!!

Thanks you guys for cheering me up!
This may be the funniest thread since 3jeezy or whatever his name was!



PEOPLE LIKE ME DAMMIT!


Really!!!!!!!!


LOL

[supertek65]

GT

You frickn crack me up dude!!!

[supertek65]

OP

I believe it was Socrates that once said

True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing!

This applies to most top guys with the exception of
Willis carrier and ruben trane!

[pecmsg]

The workers here know what type of person I am and they don't want me to excel because they know I will succeed at anything and the company will count on me rather than them. They are threatened by me. But that's ok because trust me. My drive and my work ethics will get me where I need to be.

A legend in his own mind! :.02:

[qwerty hvac]

Let me explain something to all you people that think I have a bad attitude. The job I work for now loves me. I get a long with everyone and never turn down any job! But I never have and never will kiss any journeyman's a**. You think you'll get coffee too, that'll be the day. You got the wrong guy.

I did my time in the industry and I worked very ard to get my degree and certs. You guys on here think paper means nothing but it does in the real world trust me. I know how to turn a wrench not just a " textbook tech". I strongly believe that changing filters and belts does not make you a good mechanic. It's hog wash. Finding out why the machine is broken, or why did the comp. trip out, or why it's not cooling is what makes a good mech. Repairing the machine and finding out why certain things happen. Honestly if you're telling me you have to time examine a machine while you're PMing it then I'd think that you'd probably get one machine done a day. Which means in my company you're out the door.

The workers here know what type of person I am and they don't want me to excel because they know I will succeed at anything and the company will count on me rather than them. They are threatened by me. But that's ok because trust me. My drive and my work ethics will get me where I need to be.

I have to agree with everyone else. PMs make you a better tech and gets you more work. How do you think we find all those cracked heat exchangers and bad contactors? If you are pming a piece of equipment correctly you will be diagnosing problems with equipment before you get a service call. That is why it is called Preventive Maintenance. When you are changeling a belt for example you can check the the bearings and end play in the motor. Also you can check the pulleys or shives for wear. These are just a few of the issues I see on a service call of a unit that was not properly pmed.


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[MrHVA]

So, the advice is put my head down, be humble, shut my mouth, listen up and do what your told, my time will come. Got it!

Thanks.......but no thanks.

A lot of jealous people on here but it's ok.

I'll let everone know when i get promoted.

[TriplePoint]

LOL..... more like a pony.... ask Helen :grin2:

Hung like a pony is better than hung like a light switch. Lol

JASON sent this from his DUMB-PHONE

[Southern Mech]

So, the advice is put my head down, be humble, shut my mouth, listen up and do what your told, my time will come. Got it!

Thanks.......but no thanks.

A lot of jealous people on here but it's ok.

I'll let everone know when i get
promoted.

Jealous, ohhh please do tell me why I should be jealous of you, haahaaa that is funny.

Yeah, come back in here and let us all know whem the big promotion comeS

[freonrick]

So, the advice is put my head down, be humble, shut my mouth, listen up and do what your told, my time will come. Got it!

Thanks.......but no thanks.

A lot of jealous people on here but it's ok.

I'll let everone know when i get promoted.

If you are so great why have you not been promoted?
You still have not listed your qualifications and experience.
So you do not need to listen and do what your told?
You could have lost job opportunities all ready thanks to this site. All because of your attitude.

[Joehvac25]

I did everything from installation, troubleshooting to sweeping a floor and hauling out garbage today, a promotion is only a title you still have to do it all.


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[supertek65]

Ohhhhhh i am soooo jealous!


I love this thread!

[Elfshadow]

You know I'm really thinking y'all might be getting trolled.

[Southern Mech]

Was just thinkin that Troll

[jpsmith1cm]

So, the advice is put my head down, be humble, shut my mouth, listen up and do what your told, my time will come. Got it!

Thanks.......but no thanks.

A lot of jealous people on here but it's ok.

I'll let everone know when i get promoted.

Yep.

I'm jealous.

I'm jealous because I'll bet that you don't answer dozens of work related phone calls/text messages/e-mails every day.

I'm jealous because you're probably not responsible for managing 3 men besides yourself and managing the refrigeration and HVAC for almost a hundred accounts.

I'm jealous because you're probably not on-call 24/7/365.

I'm jealous because you're not probably losing sleep over problems that nobody else can solve, either.

Yup. I'm jealous of ya.

[supertek65]

Helen actually texted me at work to ask about rhis thead because she got such a kick out of it!

[supertek65]

I am jealous of jp's beard!

[Joehvac25]

I am jealous of jp's beard!

It's hard to see that beard behind that bumper!


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[jpsmith1cm]

I am jealous of jp's beard!

I've been working on it for years.

Wifey wants to chop it off, but I won't let her....

:LOL:

[supertek65]

I think your wife has the hots for me.
We are friends on FB!

[supertek65]

Helen just asked how old the OP is and Tay asked if he is still in Vaterrott???

Lmao

[chuckcrj]

Just read this thread and, wow!

The OP has received a HUGE amount of valuable advice on advancing himself in this trade but rejects it???!!!!!

Frank, aren't you just green with envy??

[Joehvac25]

I'm sure he is all of 20 1/2 years old


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[ryan1088]

Helen just asked how old the OP is and Tay asked if he is still in Vaterrott???

Lmao

Hey be nice....unfortunately I'm a grad from there.

[supertek65]

Sorry ryan!

[freonrick]

If he still in Vaterrott, do they have a class in attitude adjustments?

[supertek65]

Chuck

I am extremely jealous!

I have spent the last 3 work days training our second year apprentice on fulton pulse boilers!
He is sharp!
Smart, hard working and has a great attitude!
By friday he will bw able to run any fulton pulse boiler call!
His stock is rising at our shop and around town!

[supertek65]

Lmao




If he still in Vaterrott, do they have a class in attitude adjustments?

[Tech Rob]

Funny thread. 17 years in the trade, work for Trane, still maintain equipment for proper operation and buildings for proper performance.

Dude, unless your banging duct together, your maintaining equipment.

I work for a manufacturer also and I run about 10-15 service calls a year. The rest of that time is spent maintaining the equipment at the accounts I am charged with taking care of. I log everything, measure everything, develop trends for everything, and as a result I can spot big problems while they are still little problems. I generate enough work out of my own accounts and those few service calls a year to keep me very busy! When I'm not doing that, I'm cleaning, calibrating, or testing something. I could be cleaning coils on a small air-cooled chiller or calibrating the oil pressure control on a monster centrifugal chiller. It is all maintenance and it's the most important work you can do in this trade, IMO.

[supertek65]

Ryan
I was an instructor at vaterott
From 1990-1992 in KC.

[supertek65]

Ryan
I am sure vatterott is a fine school.
You turned out fine!

[supertek65]

Yeah
What rob said!

[Tech Rob]

His stock is rising at our shop and around town!

That's funny. At the last company I worked for, that was what we said whenever someone quit or got fired "Oh well, our stock just went up" LOL

[chuckcrj]

Chuck

I am extremely jealous!

I have spent the last 3 work days training our second year apprentice on fulton pulse boilers!
He is sharp!
Smart, hard working and has a great attitude!
By friday he will bw able to run any fulton pulse boiler call!
His stock is rising at our shop and around town!

It's been at least 5 years since I've worked on a Fulton Pulse boiler. Fun stuff.

[Freightshaker]

So, the advice is put my head down, be humble, shut my mouth, listen up and do what your told, my time will come. Got it!

Thanks.......but no thanks.

A lot of jealous people on here but it's ok.

I'll let everone know when i get promoted.

Keep us posted! I can't wait to hear when you get promoted from grill to drive through. We have arrogant mouthy know it all fsticks pass through every once in a while. It is a good laugh. My favorites pass through all the companies (aka get fired) then end up at some hack shop that is the last shop around to work at and pretend it is soooo great.

[ryan1088]

If he still in Vaterrott, do they have a class in attitude adjustments?

Haha they do, it's called graduation!!!!

[ryan1088]

Ryan
I am sure vatterott is a fine school.
You turned out fine!

Only because I tried, unlike the rest. This site has taught me more than school ever did.

[Tommy knocker]

Hahahahahaha.
A BA in HVAC $15000. Thinking it Means your a tech priceless. Hay there service Jesus. I'm a journeyman will over 23 years in the field. More pieces of paper then I can count. Guess what I just spent the last 2 hrs doing. Cleaning a dryer at the humane society. Yep crawling around on my knees with a shop vac sucking up lint and animal hair. Glad to do it too. Oh and the jealous thing. Seriously squirt the guys you been conversing with on here are so far out of your league. Your most likely not qualified to get their coffee. Hahahaha. Nominating this for thread of the year.

[toocoolforschool]

I work for a manufacturer also and I run about 10-15 service calls a year. The rest of that time is spent maintaining the equipment at the accounts I am charged with taking care of. I log everything, measure everything, develop trends for everything, and as a result I can spot big problems while they are still little problems. I generate enough work out of my own accounts and those few service calls a year to keep me very busy! When I'm not doing that, I'm cleaning, calibrating, or testing something. I could be cleaning coils on a small air-cooled chiller or calibrating the oil pressure control on a monster centrifugal chiller. It is all maintenance and it's the most important work you can do in this trade, IMO.

Excellent- Let me see, I gonna run my car and never maintain it, I'm a great car owner because I don't need maintenance.

[Tommy knocker]

To the OP. I'm gonna try to forget everything I just read and try to give an honest answer. You say you have the qualifications to be more then a maint tech, and I'm sure on paper you do, but really need to know your level of experience. If you are in fact a 2 or 3 year guy it's a different path then if you are a 5-10 year guy. Experience is far more valuable and desirable then paper. If the prior is true then Trane is probably not the best coarse to pursue. A smaller shop with a variety of accounts, residential, light comm, comm, industrial, refrigeration, and such. You have to build a solid foundation of experience, and take your lumps, before you jump in the deep end. Your confidence is admirable but will get you in trouble without the experience to back it up. You may think and believe you can handle a 215 ton screw machine on a process line but if you can't and can't see it your career is going to nose dive. You'll cost someone alot of money and then you'll be "that guy". Reputation tarnished and opertunities evaporate. So take this for what it's worth. The most important thing in this industry is reputation. You have dug a deep hole on this thread in that regard. I don't care how much paper you got a bad reputation will get you to the couch and keep you there.

[toocoolforschool]

Tommy k. I don't think he really cares or he would be here to awnser for himself. Besides he probably washed a trane screw chiller condenser coil so now he is a pro.

[ryan1088]

Tommy k. I don't think he really cares or he would be here to awnser for himself. Besides he probably washed a trane screw chiller condenser coil so now he is a pro.

I've been doing one all week! Oh and needs 3 motors, 2 fans, and 1 fan bracket.....

[Tommy knocker]

I've been doing one all week! Oh and needs 3 motors, 2 fans, and 1 fan bracket.....

Come on Ryan. We all know washing coils and checking fans is beneath your skill level :)

[ryan1088]

Come on Ryan. We all know washing coils and checking fans is beneath your skill level :)

Ha, hardly. I haven't forgotten where I came from!! Oh and 2 shorts from zip ties on the motor brackets....

[HVAC-matt]

Hello,

I'm getting nowhere with the job I'm currently at. Nobody wants to let me do anything besides maintain equipment. I have much more qualifications then being a "maintenance guy". NO disrespect to anyone out there that maintains equipment everyday but it just aint my shtick.


Anybody know how/who to contact at Trane in New York about a job? Seems like I get no where when I apply through their website. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

OR, any other companies hiring at the moment.

Thanks
So have you found a new job yet? I dont think you are making any alliances or friends here


Let me explain something to all you people that think I have a bad attitude. The job I work for now loves me. I get a long with everyone and never turn down any job! But I never have and never will kiss any journeyman's a**. You think you'll get coffee too, that'll be the day. You got the wrong guy.

I did my time in the industry and I worked very ard to get my degree and certs. You guys on here think paper means nothing but it does in the real world trust me. I know how to turn a wrench not just a " textbook tech". I strongly believe that changing filters and belts does not make you a good mechanic. It's hog wash. Finding out why the machine is broken, or why did the comp. trip out, or why it's not cooling is what makes a good mech. Repairing the machine and finding out why certain things happen. Honestly if you're telling me you have to time examine a machine while you're PMing it then I'd think that you'd probably get one machine done a day. Which means in my company you're out the door.

The workers here know what type of person I am and they don't want me to excel because they know I will succeed at anything and the company will count on me rather than them. They are threatened by me. But that's ok because trust me. My drive and my work ethics will get me where I need to be.

Again why is that you dont have a new job with such drive and determination as you say it. Not trying to bust balls here but what do you think you will be doing if you work for Trane? Start out as the senior tech and not be doing PM's on equipment. Good luck!!

[Tommy knocker]

Ha, hardly. I haven't forgotten where I came from!! Oh and 2 shorts from zip ties on the motor brackets....

Ive been using rubber tape for that. Been thinking about investing in some loom for my RTACs.

[ryan1088]

I have been using zip ties but just not zipping them tight against the bracket, that way it doesn't rub. I'm up to trying something new though!

[supertek65]

Ryan

Dont the have wireless fans?

Cant you just blue tooth the fan?

[TheChillerMan]

You are like a HVAC God, I think you dont need the union! is the union that needs you, I wish I knew what local you belong to, I would call then and congratulate them for having you.

Are you trying to pick a fight with me?

I am a talented technician that, since I was a 4th year apprentice, was able to get my own jobs in this industry. If I waited around for the crooked business agent down at the hall to get me a job at Trane or Carrier, I'd still be digging ditches and slopping mastic on ductwork like I was doing when I was a 1st year apprentice.

If that's you, then I'm sorry. You've got the same mentality as these fools that think Obama is going to buy their gas and pay their rent. Keep waiting around for that.

[ryan1088]

Knowing all the bull around this place, it would interfere with the signal!

[valdelocc]

Are you trying to pick a fight with me?

I am a talented technician that, since I was a 4th year apprentice, was able to get my own jobs in this industry. If I waited around for the crooked business agent down at the hall to get me a job at Trane or Carrier, I'd still be digging ditches and slopping mastic on ductwork like I was doing when I was a 1st year apprentice.

If that's you, then I'm sorry. You've got the same mentality as these fools that think Obama is going to buy their gas and pay their rent. Keep waiting around for that.
Fight?? NO! all I want to do is congratulate your union for having you!!! I bet they would be in deep trouble if you weren't there.
Be careful Obama is going to get you!!!

[Tommy knocker]

Are you trying to pick a fight with me?

I am a talented technician that, since I was a 4th year apprentice, was able to get my own jobs in this industry. If I waited around for the crooked business agent down at the hall to get me a job at Trane or Carrier, I'd still be digging ditches and slopping mastic on ductwork like I was doing when I was a 1st year apprentice.

If that's you, then I'm sorry. You've got the same mentality as these fools that think Obama is going to buy their gas and pay their rent. Keep waiting around for that.

Preach it brother!!! Our local is the same. Pay my dues and show up to vote on allocations. That's the extent of our relationship. Joined the union to work for a particular company. Not the other way around. If that makes me a scrub in the sheep's minds do be it. I'm a scrub with no crutches!! :)

[supertek65]

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!



Knowing all the bull around this place, it would interfere with the signal!

[supertek65]

hey tommy

you have 420 posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Joehvac25]

The OP hasn't chimed in in awhile, must be out saving the world one dirty coil at a time!


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[TheChillerMan]

Fight?? NO! all I want to do is congratulate your union for having you!!! I bet they would be in deep trouble if you weren't there.
Be careful Obama is going to get you!!!

Why are you being such a condescending jerk? You're just another internet bully.

You wanna talk about unions, I'm game.

[supertek65]

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




The OP hasn't chimed in in awhile, must be out saving the world one dirty coil at a time!


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[supertek65]

funny thing is,

guys like this roll through all the time!

we do not dislike him!
hell, you gotta be a little cocky to be good at this!

he can still grow up, step back and look at his posts and say sorry!

he could be just fine!

doubt it is gonna happen, but it might??





The OP hasn't chimed in in awhile, must be out saving the world one dirty coil at a time!


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[Joehvac25]

funny thing is,

guys like this roll through all the time!

we do not dislike him!
hell, you gotta be a little cocky to be good at this!

he can still grow up, step back and look at his posts and say sorry!

he could be just fine!

doubt it is gonna happen, but it might??

I think he is at the stage were he learned a few things now has an ego, when I was younger I thought I was so great because I could do this and that. It all changes when you get thrown to the wolfs, sink or swim, that's humbling.


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[supertek65]

exactly!
I was in his position at one time!


i remember being young and learning.

company i worked for had replaced 3 condensing units and evaporator coils under warranty at one house.

i got there and suction line was iced up outside, inside iced up too.

the entire company had been there including the young service manager.

3 ton system
removed 26 lbs r22.

weighed in charge and quickly determined problem with TEV!
found installer left piston in along with TEV!

fixed and started unit!

low suction high superheat

found suction line kinked almost shut inside brick wall.

fixed and bammmmmmm!

i figured from that day on I was the best mechanic in all of space and time!!!!!!!!!!!!!





I think he is at the stage were he learned a few things now has an ego, when I was younger I thought I was so great because I could do this and that. It all changes when you get thrown to the wolfs, sink or swim, that's humbling.


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[TriplePoint]

i figured from that day on I was the best mechanic in all of space and time!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This kind of honesty deserves a :beer: and a :thumbup:

JASON sent this from his DUMB-PHONE

[valdelocc]

Why are you being such a condescending jerk? You're just another internet bully.

You wanna talk about unions, I'm game.

That wasn't called for!!! for real, Here i'am worshiping your talent, admiring your chillers skills and thats what I get in return, well now I'm having second thought, I dont think I like you anymore.:mad:

[Joehvac25]

exactly!
I was in his position at one time!


i remember being young and learning.

company i worked for had replaced 3 condensing units and evaporator coils under warranty at one house.

i got there and suction line was iced up outside, inside iced up too.

the entire company had been there including the young service manager.

3 ton system
removed 26 lbs r22.

weighed in charge and quickly determined problem with TEV!
found installer left piston in along with TEV!

fixed and started unit!

low suction high superheat

found suction line kinked almost shut inside brick wall.

fixed and bammmmmmm!

i figured from that day on I was the best mechanic in all of space and time!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sounds like you and the OP would be neck and neck with the space and time thing, I bet he has a filter change story of equal awesomeness, lets wait and see!


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[Tommy knocker]

hey tommy

you have 420 posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm starting a 12 step program tomorrow. :)

[MrHVA]

funny thing is,

guys like this roll through all the time!

we do not dislike him!
hell, you gotta be a little cocky to be good at this!

he can still grow up, step back and look at his posts and say sorry!

he could be just fine!

doubt it is gonna happen, but it might??

Say SORRY? What in the world should I say sorry for? Because I won't get your coffee or your doughnut? What are you smoking? Get out of here. I have nothing to be sorry about!!! Mark my words, NEVER EVER EVER will I kiss anyones a**. I hope you understood that.

Go get your coffee yourself like a good little boy and while you're at it make sure you grab yourself the pink doughnut.

To all the other people that like attacking me for nothing, I never said I "dont" want to do to PM's. I have no idea where you got that from but thats totally wrong.

To toocoolforschool - this isn't cars we are dealing with, so if i can change my oil and do a tune up that makes going to make me a good mechanic? LOLOL

To Tommy Knocker - who said I have a B.A. in HVAC? another poster using words I neve said oh and about the cofee, read my first few sentences. Thanks!

JOeyhvac25 - I won't get thrown to the wolves because then I'll be taking some guys job.

Anyway, I see this post is firing some people up, so, lets just leave it at I'll do what i have to do. Thanks but no thanks.

[TriplePoint]

Your awesome at making friends. :eek:

JASON sent this from his DUMB-PHONE

[freonrick]

I'll take a diet coke with my doughnut.

[Joehvac25]

JOeyhvac25 - I won't get thrown to the wolves because then I'll be taking some guys job.

Wow now sh*ts Gona hit the fan it's joe not Joey, trying to make me look like some new kids on the block boy band homo. Lol


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[supertek65]

LMAO!!!!!!!!!



This kind of honesty deserves a :beer: and a :thumbup:

JASON sent this from his DUMB-PHONE

[supertek65]

OP!

my wife says thanks for the comedy!
after a hard days work , this is wonderful to come home to!
seriously, this is great!!!!!!!

I have not seen anybody get fired up over anything?

only you!

us old guys are just reading and laughing our arses off!

[supertek65]

but when you calm down and put your big boy panties on.

2 creams and a sugar please?

[supertek65]

who drinks diet coke with donuts????????????????

[supertek65]

319961

[supertek65]

well not to brag but??????????






Sounds like you and the OP would be neck and neck with the space and time thing, I bet he has a filter change story of equal awesomeness, lets wait and see!


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[Joehvac25]

319961

How did you find my high school year book photo?


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[Joehvac25]

well not to brag but??????????

O snap let me guess, you can hammer out 12 16x20s per minute?


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[ncboston]

I'm trying to read all the posts. Can you guys stop posting so I can catch up on reading?

[supertek65]

not including travel time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



O snap let me guess, you can hammer out 12 16x20s per minute?


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[supertek65]

i cant stop posting!
drinking too much coffee!!!!!!!!!!!!



I'm trying to read all the posts. Can you guys stop posting so I can catch up on reading?

[Joehvac25]

That picture of sexy Joey really made my day lol, hell I almost got wet he is so hot!


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[supertek65]

i am not sure, but i think the pink doughnut comment had to do with my breast cancer awareness avatar?
That is funny!!!!!!!! LOL!

[Joehvac25]

i cant stop posting!
drinking too much coffee!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wonder how many people unsubscribed for said reason lol


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[supertek65]

my wife liked it!
she asked if we could post a marky mark pic!!!!!!!!!!



That picture of sexy Joey really made my day lol, hell I almost got wet he is so hot!


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[Joehvac25]

my wife liked it!
she asked if we could post a marky mark pic!!!!!!!!!!

Get all the kids on the block, I hope I won't have to change my underwear!


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[supertek65]

LOL!
too many posts to read!

iI AINT GETTIN NOBODIES FU&^%& COFFEE!
YOU CAN KISS MY ARSE!!!!!!!!!:couchhide:



I wonder how many people unsubscribed for said reason lol


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[supertek65]

QUIT!!

cant stop laughing!!!!!!!!


Get all the kids on the block, I hope I won't have to change my underwear!


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[Joehvac25]

QUIT!!

cant stop laughing!!!!!!!!

My wife keeps giving me funny looks for the same reason lol


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[syndicated]

You know, I had a new apprentice/helper start with me today. He's an Indian kid, been in the country for 6 years. He doesn't know sh!t.
I had to explain how to set up unistrut and reddi rod.
But, the kid shut his mouth and listened. Didn't complain about having to lug all 75 lengths of 1 1/8 hard-drawn up the stairs, or sweeping up at the end of the day.
Wants to learn, pays attention and asks questions.

Maybe it's a cultural thing, but even at 30 years old I'm aghast at the lack of work ethic most young white kids have these days.

[GT Jets]

Say SORRY? What in the world should I say sorry for? Because I won't get your coffee or your doughnut? What are you smoking? Get out of here. I have nothing to be sorry about!!! Mark my words, NEVER EVER EVER will I kiss anyones a**. I hope you understood that.

You've never been asked to kiss an ass.... You have been asked to respect the person that owns said ass.... :yes:



Go get your coffee yourself like a good little boy and while you're at it make sure you grab yourself the pink doughnut.

To all the other people that like attacking me for nothing, I never said I "dont" want to do to PM's. I have no idea where you got that from but thats totally wrong.

Keep your grubby mitts off my pink donut. :toetap:

The reference to the PM thing was that you think they are below you and you don't sound like you think they are important.




To toocoolforschool - this isn't cars we are dealing with, so if i can change my oil and do a tune up that makes going to make me a good mechanic? LOLOL

Per Webster's
metaphor; : a figure of speech in which a word or phrase literally denoting one kind of object or idea is used in place of another to suggest a likeness or analogy between them (as in drowning in money).



To Tommy Knocker - who said I have a B.A. in HVAC? another poster using words I neve said oh and about the cofee, read my first few sentences. Thanks!

Reading is not your strong suit is it?:whistle:




JOeyhvac25 - I won't get thrown to the wolves because then I'll be taking some guys job.

Sure you will..... :LOL:



Anyway, I see this post is firing some people up, so, lets just leave it at I'll do what i have to do. Thanks but no thanks.

Funny, but you don't even see that through all the BS and frankly funny stuff in this thread that has taken on a life of its own, there is actually some really good advice buried in it...

So I will take this opportunity to recommend this thread to any of the youngsters out there that THIS IS NOT HOW A PERSON ACTS IF THEY HAVE RESPECT FOR THEIR PEERS... Just sayin'

Dude, your priceless...And by that I do not mean "valuable"....:stinks:

GT

[supertek65]

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!



You've never been asked to kiss an ass.... You have been asked to respect the person that owns said ass.... :yes:



Keep your grubby mitts off my pink donut. :toetap:

The reference to the PM thing was that you think they are below you and you don't sound like you think they are important.




Per Webster's
metaphor; : a figure of speech in which a word or phrase literally denoting one kind of object or idea is used in place of another to suggest a likeness or analogy between them (as in drowning in money).



Reading is not your strong suit is it?:whistle:




Sure you will..... :LOL:



Funny, but you don't even see that through all the BS and frankly funny stuff in this thread that has taken on a life of its own, there is actually some really good advice buried in it...

So I will take this opportunity to recommend this thread to any of the youngsters out there that THIS IS NOT HOW A PERSON ACTS IF THEY HAVE RESPECT FOR THEIR PEERS... Just sayin'

Dude, your priceless...And by that I do not mean "valuable"....:stinks:

GT

[supertek65]

where i live
most young white kids are on the farm!

in college

in the ARMY

strung out on meth!
or

strung out on meth!



You know, I had a new apprentice/helper start with me today. He's an Indian kid, been in the country for 6 years. He doesn't know sh!t.
I had to explain how to set up unistrut and reddi rod.
But, the kid shut his mouth and listened. Didn't complain about having to lug all 75 lengths of 1 1/8 hard-drawn up the stairs, or sweeping up at the end of the day.
Wants to learn, pays attention and asks questions.

Maybe it's a cultural thing, but even at 30 years old I'm aghast at the lack of work ethic most young white kids have these days.

[GT Jets]

Hahahahahaha.
A BA in HVAC $15000. Thinking it Means your a tech priceless. Hay there service Jesus. I'm a journeyman will over 23 years in the field. More pieces of paper then I can count. Guess what I just spent the last 2 hrs doing. Cleaning a dryer at the humane society. Yep crawling around on my knees with a shop vac sucking up lint and animal hair. Glad to do it too. Oh and the jealous thing. Seriously squirt the guys you been conversing with on here are so far out of your league. Your most likely not qualified to get their coffee. Hahahaha. Nominating this for thread of the year.

He used a BA in HVAC as an example....Not seeing where he said YOU had a BA... Must read all the words....

[ncboston]

ok. I'm caught up. What was this thread about?

[GT Jets]

ok. I'm caught up. What was this thread about?


Pink donuts DUH...:CU:

[supertek65]

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

stupid gay pink donuts!!!!!!!!


Pink donuts DUH...:CU:

[Hwolfe]

I've keep up with this thread since the start. Yeah he's a dumb@$$ for even thinking a company relies on only one service tech. I'm a young tech and still have enough common since to know better. I guess he doesn't realize there's no I in team. Can't read and can't spell is a bad combination. He definitely doesn't have a BA.

[GT Jets]

I've keep up with this thread since the start. Yeah he's a dumb@$$ for even thinking a company relies on only one service tech. I'm a young tech and still have enough common since to know better. I guess he doesn't realize there's no I in team. Can't read and can't spell is a bad combination. He definitely doesn't have a BA.


BS... Not Bull Shiat, Bachelors in Science...

[ncboston]

I believe it was you that started the pink thing.

[TriplePoint]

Pink sock?



JASON sent this from his DUMB-PHONE

[supertek65]

i think it was a big red meatball?

[TriplePoint]

The pink donut is used to describe the Tallahassee toe touch?

3pt - sent this from his DUMB-PHONE

[TriplePoint]

Or the San Fransisco scrub down. Lol

3pt - sent this from his DUMB-PHONE

[Tommy knocker]

Say SORRY? What in the world should I say sorry for? Because I won't get your coffee or your doughnut? What are you smoking? Get out of here. I have nothing to be sorry about!!! Mark my words, NEVER EVER EVER will I kiss anyones a**. I hope you understood that.

Go get your coffee yourself like a good little boy and while you're at it make sure you grab yourself the pink doughnut.

To all the other people that like attacking me for nothing, I never said I "dont" want to do to PM's. I have no idea where you got that from but thats totally wrong.

To toocoolforschool - this isn't cars we are dealing with, so if i can change my oil and do a tune up that makes going to make me a good mechanic? LOLOL

To Tommy Knocker - who said I have a B.A. in HVAC? another poster using words I neve said oh and about the cofee, read my first few sentences. Thanks!

JOeyhvac25 - I won't get thrown to the wolves because then I'll be taking some guys job.

Anyway, I see this post is firing some people up, so, lets just leave it at I'll do what i have to do. Thanks but no thanks.


I'll take my first cup with one cream and one sugar. The next 2 black. You can have the pink doughnut after you get my tools on the roof. I'll be in the truck.

[Southern Mech]

i think it was a big red meatball?

I dont see the big red meatball in his future.

[ryan1088]

where i live
most young white kids are on the farm!

in college

in the ARMY

strung out on meth!
or

strung out on meth!

I think you forgot bath salts!!

[toocoolforschool]

Unfortunatly in this life if we want to get ahead and get what we want their will always be a little ass kissing in the works. Just don't do it the point that your nose is brown.

[freonrick]

:couchhide:

[Southern Mech]

Unfortunatly in this life if we want to get ahead and get what we want their will always be a little ass kissing in the works. Just don't do it the point that your nose is brown.

I disagree. There is a difference between being nice. Thoughtful , respectful , appreciative etc vs kissing arse . I for one am not an ass kisser and never will be.

Its not who you know and blow its who you meet and eat.

[supertek65]

Never need to kiss arse. Ever!

Is taking building engineer to lunch kiss arse?


Is doing good paperwork kissing arse?


Is taking time to pick up and clean your work area kiss arse?


Is keeping neat clean truck kiss arse?

Is volunteering for OT kiss arse?

Just curious?

[Joehvac25]

Never need to kiss arse. Ever!

Is taking building engineer to lunch kiss arse?


Is doing good paperwork kissing arse?


Is taking time to pick up and clean your work area kiss arse?


Is keeping neat clean truck kiss arse?

Is volunteering for OT kiss arse?

Just curious?

If I say no do I get a free lunch?


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[supertek65]

Yes!

[Southern Mech]

Never need to kiss arse. Ever!

Is taking building engineer to lunch kiss arse?


Is doing good paperwork kissing arse?


Is taking time to pick up and clean your work area kiss arse?


Is keeping neat clean truck kiss arse?

Is volunteering for OT kiss arse?

Just curious?

No that's doing your jobby job

Except for #1, that may . Or it could be education who knows

[Joehvac25]

Yes!

Sweet


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[supertek65]

Taco bell!

[Joehvac25]

Taco bell!

Sure I could use the runs!


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[supertek65]

Serious question.

Is shmoooooozing kissing arse?

I am sure op would never shmooooooz!

[Joehvac25]

Serious question.

Is shmoooooozing kissing arse?

I am sure op would never shmooooooz!

As long as your not talking bad about other employes to the boss man who cares what color your nose is


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[Tommy knocker]

Where did the OP go? I need a coffee!!

[HVAC-matt]

You know, I had a new apprentice/helper start with me today. He's an Indian kid, been in the country for 6 years. He doesn't know sh!t.

I agree with you 100% I am only 31 years old been doing this for 4 years and I by no means think I know everything. I learn something new every day. If my boss tells me to go sweet the roof off I go and do it, still getting paid by the hour and same rate as if we were doing HVAC work. This country is going to sh!t with the generation of today and even some in my generation. Nobody wants to work and get there hands dirty they all want to sit behind the computer and search the internet.


I disagree. There is a difference between being nice. Thoughtful , respectful , appreciative etc vs kissing arse . I for one am not an ass kisser and never will be.

Exactly, do what you are told and do your job and that is all there is to it. If you work hard and are not an arrogant a## like the OP then your hard work will be recognized.

[ryan1088]

I agree with you 100% I am only 31 years old been doing this for 4 years and I by no means think I know everything. I learn something new every day. If my boss tells me to go sweet the roof off I go and do it, still getting paid by the hour and same rate as if we were doing HVAC work. This country is going to sh!t with the generation of today and even some in my generation. Nobody wants to work and get there hands dirty they all want to sit behind the computer and search the internet.



Exactly, do what you are told and do your job and that is all there is to it. If you work hard and are not an arrogant a## like the OP then your hard work will be recognized.

I'm 31 also and it's starting with our generation. The work ethic is pathetic. Cell phone use and the inability to stay on task is absurd. Work ethic couldn't be found with the hubbell telescope. It's really sad.

There are some exceptions, of course!

[toocoolforschool]

I disagree. There is a difference between being nice. Thoughtful , respectful , appreciative etc vs kissing arse . I for one am not an ass kisser and never will be.

Its not who you know and blow its who you meet and eat.
Being nice and respectfull to a person who is in a position of power over you or me who doesn't deserve it for any given reason is kissing arse. Now tell me you have never did that.

[Joehvac25]

I'm 31 also and it's starting with our generation. The work ethic is pathetic. Cell phone use and the inability to stay on task is absurd. Work ethic couldn't be found with the hubbell telescope. It's really sad.

There are some exceptions, of course!

At 26 I guess we near the same generation but I can't think If many useful people my age besides me of course lol


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[qwerty hvac]

Here is a thought that may be off topic. Did you ever notice that the guys a work who say they know it all and can do anything rarely do or can? It's the guys that are more humble and always say they are learning new things that know the most.


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[ryan1088]

Here is a thought that may be off topic. Did you ever notice that the guys a work who say they know it all and can do anything rarely do or can? It's the guys that are more humble and always say they are learning new things that know the most.


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I agree to a point but I also disagree. I think the people you refer to as being humble, know they don't know everything. It's the newbies that think they know everything!

It takes a certain "swag" to be the best. Good examples of pro athletes who are like what I'm talking about would be Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant. They honestly believed that they could make every shot, every time, and especially in the biggest moments. Having the confidence to know you will figure it out no matter what you're sent on is huge, IMO. No one likes an arrogant jerk though.

[freonrick]

I'm 31 also and it's starting with our generation. The work ethic is pathetic. Cell phone use and the inability to stay on task is absurd. Work ethic couldn't be found with the hubbell telescope. It's really sad.

There are some exceptions, of course!

you kids are making me feel old. I have been doing this longer than you have been alive. someday I will know it all.:callpro:

[maxster]

638B doesn't place techs in companies so forget the HALL.you get hired in a union shop and they get you in the union afeter 45days.go over to Hauppauge TRANE on OSER AVE and walk into the main office side and give them your resume

[supertek65]

Ryan

you need to have confidence in your skills!
confidence in your basic knowledge and ability to troubleshoot!

If you get sent on a call tomorrow for a broken steam iron at a clothier or a munters dehumidification unit with a heat recovery wheel or a Hoshizaki ice machine or elkay drinking fountain!

the night before when you go to sleep you should know that even though you have never seen one before you can fix it easy!
That is confidence!

knowing that you only know 1% of this crap is humble!

I like guys that work on 1 chiller and all of a sudden they are a chiller mechanic!!!!!!!!!!!!

I know I am a skilled mechanic!
I also know that there are millions of other skilled mechanics and I could get my arse kicked by some little piece of equipment tomorrow morning!



I agree to a point but I also disagree. I think the people you refer to as being humble, know they don't know everything. It's the newbies that think they know everything!

It takes a certain "swag" to be the best. Good examples of pro athletes who are like what I'm talking about would be Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant. They honestly believed that they could make every shot, every time, and especially in the biggest moments. Having the confidence to know you will figure it out no matter what you're sent on is huge, IMO. No one likes an arrogant jerk though.

[supertek65]

i like it when guys get on here and say

nothing has kicked my arse yet!

that tells me you have not worked on much!

[valdelocc]

i like it when guys get on here and say

nothing has kicked my arse yet!

that tells me you have not worked on much!


are you taking about "TheChillerMan"? I dont know him that well but I can tell you without a single doubt that he doesn't make any mistakes and he finds his own jobs since he was an apprentice two or 3 years ago. You are probably a little bit jealous cause he work on big intimidating 'chillers' and you don't!!!

[Phrancis]

To OP - Call a Home Warranty company and ask for their contractors who work for them in your area. I'm sure you'll get sent on plenty of "service" calls to "repair" some equipment if you work for them. Hope you got a lot of duct tape!

[Jigjoe]

To OP - Call a Home Warranty company and ask for their contractors who work for them in your area. I'm sure you'll get sent on plenty of "service" calls to "repair" some equipment if you work for them. Hope you got a lot of duct tape!

Its funny you mention that because I'm going to school with a guy who currently works for one of those types of companies. Working for them actually motivated him to go to school in the first place but man are his stories funny as hell. Funny and sad

[Phrancis]

Its funny you mention that because I'm going to school with a guy who currently works for one of those types of companies. Working for them actually motivated him to go to school in the first place but man are his stories funny as hell. Funny and sad

I remember one time the warranty company I work for (NOT home warranty) had a customer with an Allied heat pump, thing was about 4 years old from what I recall. It was in the middle of the cooling season and all our usual quality repair shops in the area were too busy to take on a new account, so we reluctantly resorted to the phone book. The "tech" that ended up going there said they needed a whole new HP and sent us a quote for like 6-7 grand. We opted for a second opinion once one of our regulars freed up and it was just a TXV which they replaced. Haven't heard any issue with the HO since. The hack got a "service" call out of it.

[MrHVA]

638B doesn't place techs in companies so forget the HALL.you get hired in a union shop and they get you in the union afeter 45days.go over to Hauppauge TRANE on OSER AVE and walk into the main office side and give them your resume

Maxster, thank you so much! FINALLY!! Someone that answered my question and actually "helped" me without giving me advice on something else, or attacking me.


To most of the people that replied on here that liked to make fun of me you can learn a lot by looking at Maxster's reply. The guy (Maxster) answered my question and stuck to the point without making any derogatory comments, attacking remarks, giving so called "advice" and trying to put me down. It was a simple question that called for a simple answer.

And for that Maxster I "appluad you!" Thank you! :cheers:

[MrHVA]

To OP - Call a Home Warranty company and ask for their contractors who work for them in your area. I'm sure you'll get sent on plenty of "service" calls to "repair" some equipment if you work for them. Hope you got a lot of duct tape!

Is that how you fix your repair calls by putting a bandaid on them? Unreal!

You're probably a subscriber to Krazy Glue as well.

[Phrancis]

Is that how you fix your repair calls by putting a bandaid on them? Unreal!

You're probably a subscriber to Krazy Glue as well.

Just making a sarcastic comment, don't mind me too much. I'm not a tech but I know ways to move from PM to "service"! Hope you find what you are looking for.

[supertek65]

:LOL:
I'll take my first cup with one cream and one sugar. The next 2 black. You can have the pink doughnut after you get my tools on the roof. I'll be in the truck.

[supertek65]

:LOL:

I'll take a diet coke with my doughnut.

[supertek65]

:cheers:

Where did the OP go? I need a coffee!!

[ryan1088]

:cheers:

Lol and now you have a pink donut for an avatar!!!!

[supertek65]

I like it!!!!!!!!1
I may just keep it forever?


Lol and now you have a pink donut for an avatar!!!!

[zxcb]

Must be a breast cancer awareness donut.

[supertek65]

it is a breast cancer awareness donut, but has some other influences!



Must be a breast cancer awareness donut.

[supertek65]

wherw are you from ZXCB?

[supertek65]

apparently there are members or guests on here that are anti breast cancer awareness?

[zxcb]

I'm from eastern Kansas. I hope you don't think my comment meant I am anti breast cancer awareness. :(

[supertek65]

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!

no, your comment is good!

there are some idiots on here though!!!!!!!!!!!

would you consider Kansas City Eastern Kansas>?????????????



I'm from eastern Kansas. I hope you don't think my comment meant I am anti breast cancer awareness. :(

[ryan1088]

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!

no, your comment is good!

there are some idiots on here though!!!!!!!!!!!

would you consider Kansas City Eastern Kansas>?????????????

KCK dude, duh! There aren't many eastern Kansas cities out there!

[supertek65]

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!

lawrence!!!!!!!


KCK dude, duh! There aren't many eastern Kansas cities out there!

[ryan1088]

That would be "east central". I'm thinking like Fort Scott. Lol.

[supertek65]

east central????????????????

is that like south central LA or Compton???????????

[ryan1088]

Look at you being all smart! You have to say it with emphasis! East CENTRAL!

[HVAC-matt]

Hello,

I'm getting nowhere with the job I'm currently at. Nobody wants to let me do anything besides maintain equipment. I have much more qualifications then being a "maintenance guy".


BTW it is MANY more qualifications

[supertek65]

Lol!
Not like we are the spelling police!

If we were.

Than being not then being.





BTW it is MANY more qualifications

[TheChillerMan]

638B doesn't place techs in companies so forget the HALL.you get hired in a union shop and they get you in the union afeter 45days.go over to Hauppauge TRANE on OSER AVE and walk into the main office side and give them your resume

Holy crap dude! Don't say anything about a union or valdelocc will be all over your ass! :gah: