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bournazos
10-18-2006, 11:43 PM
Hello everyone.
I wish I had found this site prior to having my a/c system and new heater installed. There really is wealth of information on this site thanks to all of you.

My question is this, I had the following installed: a 3.5 ton American standard Allegiance 14 model #2A7A4042 for the first floor and a 3 ton model # 2A7A4036 for the upstairs. These were paired with american standard variable speed air handlers model # 2/4TEE3F40A with honeywell f100 media filters. Each system has two zones.

For the heat and hot water a burnham v8 series v86 oil fired boiler was installed.

The first floor system was also fitted with an EWC model S2020 whole house humidifier with its own humidastat. the one that came with humidifier.

Four white rodgers thermostats were installed which are the 80 series. I dont know the exact model #.

I have questioned weather the variable speed air handlers
are doing what they are supposed to do. (change speeds)

After reading one of the posts here by wyounger (quoted below)I question weather the contracter installed the proper thermostats to take full advantage of these air handlers.

Which thermostats are you refering to in that post that will comunicate with the air handlers? Are the white rodgers thermostats I have adequate?
Is there a way for the humidistat for the humidifier to be eliminated and have the thermistat for the A/C. heat control that function also? Which thermostats would do this?

The variable speed air handlers have dip switches on the circuit board (8 of them) which can be set in different combinations for optimum performance. which settings would you recommend?


Lastly I read somewhere that the blowers on the air handlers have adjustments so they can be matched to the size of the condensors. What settings should those be and how is this done?

I asked the contracter if these were all set up and he said yes, but after installing the system he just always seems to be in a rush to leave so I dont think he took the time to set them up properly.

Sorry this is so long. Thanks in addvance for the help.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by wyounger
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"The VisionPro's only trick for humidity control is that if humidity is too high when there's no demand for cooling, it can start the AC up and do some overcooling to help compensate.

Many other thermostats in the same price range can do that, but can also send a signal to a variable speed furnace/air handler to slow down the blower as needed anytime the AC is running. By running the blower more slowly in cooling mode, the system dehumidifies more than usual and cools less than usual. It will do that as needed during a call for cooling, but can also use this strategy in conjunction with overcooling. That way the thermostat has some additional control over humidity beyond just overcooling, and if it does have to overcool, it can adjust the blower speed to try to maximize dehumidification and minimize how much it has to cool the place beyond your cooling setpoint.

BaldLoonie
10-19-2006, 06:18 AM
About the only thing you can do to improve is use the Vision Pro IAQ which will slow the blower in cooling mode to reduce humidity. Otherwise, the VS blower takes care of itself. The IAQ model will also control the humidifier.

rog09
10-19-2006, 11:02 PM
BaldLoonie

After all of your posts concerning the VP IAQ, I decided to take a gander at your website, as you seem to know more about this stat than just about anyone else...as I browsed to the "Our Brands" page, it says you only have WR and Totaline...how the heck do you know so much about the VP IAQ? Seems like the webmaster for your site should be sent an email (I think I saw that this was you...) to update that you sell Honeywell stats.

Just giving you a hard time, I understand how difficult it is to maintain a site and do your day job...

BaldLoonie
10-20-2006, 06:11 AM
That's right! There for a while, it was murder to keep up with installers coming and going every day :D

We stopped using Totaline and started using the VP. We're still not sure what we are using for equipment brands now!

rog09
10-20-2006, 09:33 AM
How long have you been using the VP? Do you only use the VP from Honeywell or do you use the rest of the line as well? Have you tried out the 'new' WR touchscreen (I think it is the 1277)? I heard that they further copied the VP 8000 line, but I haven't been able to find out how they are doing dual fuel (although with the ease of wiring the VP IAQ I don't see a reason to ever pull extra wires through the wall to the stat...)

Man there were a lot of questions in the beginning of this post...sounded like an interrogation

BaldLoonie
10-20-2006, 10:00 AM
Started using the VP 8320 when it came out. Started with the IAQ immediately upon its coming out. Have installed a few W-R touchscreens as that is what the Rheem Mod is using for its special stat. Seems OK but the IAQ does so much more. We use the 1F80 series for our lower priced stats.

rog09
10-20-2006, 10:08 AM
Have you sold many of the Rheem mod's? Do you actually use the 'diagnostics' capabilities built in? They sure are promoting that product (I think I have seen it on the back of the News the last few issues) and at Comfortech both companies were talking about it a lot. I suppose it is a way for them to not lose too much ground to Carrier/Bryant and the Infinity/Evolution line.

rog09
10-20-2006, 10:11 AM
I just noticed that after 16723 more posts I will be caught up with you...wow, that is a lot of posts.

Assuming 30 seconds/post, that is...
8361.5 minutes OR
139.4 hours OR
5 days 19 hours 21 minutes and 30 seconds

(I did this to myself a couple of months ago on a technology board that I post to a lot and nearly fell off my chair)

[Edited by rog09 on 10-20-2006 at 10:16 AM]

rog09
10-20-2006, 10:18 AM
I forgot to include...

17.425 work days

BaldLoonie
10-20-2006, 10:39 AM
We've sold a couple dozen of the suckers. Haven't had much need to use the LED diagnsostic messages as they don't tend to break down. Had one years ago with a gas valve that wouldn't open past 40% but that's been it. Had a couple give the 66 error message which basically means duct system too restrictive to get desired CFM. Blower motor doing all it can and reported still not where we wanted. Just reduced desired CFM to what it could do.