Biden needs to be slapped!

[RoBoTeq]

What a putz! Biden laughed and smirked at everything that Ryan had to say when he wasn't rudely interrupting Ryan and whinning about not having as much time to talk. In fact, Biden had more time talking than Ryan did, but he wasted much of his time complaining about not having as much time.

Biden needs to have that stupid, obnoxious laugh slapped right off of his face!

[classical]

What a putz! Biden laughed and smirked at everything that Ryan had to say when he wasn't rudely interrupting Ryan and whinning about not having as much time to talk. In fact, Biden had more time talking than Ryan did, but he wasted much of his time complaining about not having as much time.

Biden needs to have that stupid, obnoxious laugh slapped right off of his face!

I agree what an ASS

[the mojo]

Come on people,he was coached for 3 days by Axelrod.

[kamersoutdoor]

I missed it!
Anyone have a link on it?

sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note

[energy star]

Biden laughed and smirked his way to another 4 years.

[Steveo86]

the best when ryan called him out saying he had to pick up obama's slack

[RoBoTeq]

O
the best when ryan called him out saying he had to pick up obama's slack
Or when Ryan reprimanded Biden for constantly interrupting. That was also one of the times that Biden whined that Ryan was talking too much, even though Biden had more speaking time at the end of the debate.

It didn't help that the moderator, a personal friend of the Obama's whose husband has a position with the government appointed by Obama, did not stop Biden from interrupting and did not tell Biden to stop playing moderator when Biden kept directing his own questions at Ryan. She should have been the one to reprimand Biden's rude interruptions, not Ryan.

[Steveo86]

biden "ur making these numbers up" ryan:your making these numbers up" wouldnt it just be best if they brought documentation oh wait obama has them burnt beforehand so they cant use them against him, im sorry im not american but i really do think obama one because of his race, and now that day and age is over been there done that

[k-fridge]

Pretty lame debate. Biden acted like a juvenile, Ryan was too mechanical and a lot of his points went right over people's heads.

I give Ryan a slight edge simple because he was much more professional, but I really doubt this changed anyone's mind.

I have to mention that Biden told one whopper of a lie. He said they weren't advised of the need for more security at Benghazi. That is totally incorrect and the real truth has been all over the news the last couple of days. I wonder if he meant to tell a glaring lie, or if he's just that out of touch? I suspect the latter. Regardless, the media should be calling him on it.

[netsalt]

What other response to tales of unicorns and pixy dust could you expect - it is about time someone from the administration laughed at what the R&R ticket is selling.

[k-fridge]

What other response to tales of unicorns and pixy dust could you expect - it is about time someone from the administration laughed at what the R&R ticket is selling.
Biden is a veteran senator sitting Vice President. We should expect him to act with dignity and maturity instead of like a child on the playground.

A lot of people in the media are pretty upset with him over it. They say (and I think this too) that he's a genuinely nice guy in real life, but that his behavior in the debate was offensive.

[netsalt]

Sorry Republicans but Joe is still smiling.

[coolwhip]

I liked when Ryan said to Biden " the wrong words are always coming out of your mouth" lolz :D

[netsalt]

I liked when Ryan said to Biden " the wrong words are always coming out of your mouth" lolz :D

I liked the response better. Tough to run away from the 47%!

[coolwhip]

I liked the response better. Tough to run away from the 47%!

Especially when its true!

[ga-hvac-tech]

Hmmm... lessee...

We have an economy going down the tubes (No, the unemp numbers going down was wrong, California was not included);
We have an act of TERRORISM committed against the USA in Libya (and the current administration KNEW ahead of time and tried to blow smoke with a meaningless video);
We have Iran getting closer and closer to having a nuke (and the same folks who lie about knowing what happened in Libya say they will know when Iran gets close to having the bomb);
YET:

The most important question to close with was about abortion...

MeThinks the moderator was either biased or just plain stupid and irresponsible... OR... this was planned to make the GOP look bad.

Now for GA opinion: Biden was ARROGANT last nite; as if he was not concerned about anything beyond himself. Narcissistic seems a good word to describe the attitude I saw. Ryan on the other hand, behaved as a professional, the way a V-POTUS should behave.

Less than 4 weeks to freedom on the books, then about 2-1/2 mos until it is done!

Lets have a celebration at ARP on Jan 20, 2013!

[netsalt]

Ok Biden was affable and had a good time. The moderator was biased. Ryan spouted rehearsed talking points.

Biden accomplished what he set out to do.

Joe Biden is still smiling.

[coolwhip]

Nutsalt, dont you know that sticking up for Obama and Biden is an insult to your intelligence?... no matter what your IQ is.

[netsalt]

Facts are the facts - the zombie Eddie Munster repeated his tales of pixy dust - Biden laughed. I really enjoyed Lyans complete change of expression at the end, it had that PLEASE vote for me I REALLY DO know what I'm doing look.

[classical]

Facts are the facts - the zombie Eddie Munster repeated his tales of pixy dust - Biden laughed. I really enjoyed Lyans complete change of expression at the end, it had that PLEASE vote for me I REALLY DO know what I'm doing look.

Funny fact checks on the debate shows Biden wrong or deceitful on every count and Ryan correct on every count; as always you lose.

[netsalt]

Funny fact checks on the debate shows Biden wrong or deceitful on every count and Ryan correct on every count; as always you lose.

Link please

[k-fridge]

Interesting scripture for you Bible scholars

Proverbs 29:9

(9) If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet.

[coolwhip]

Dont forget the famous idiom....None are so blind as those who will not see. :)

[AStudent]

Funny fact checks on the debate shows Biden wrong or deceitful on every count and Ryan correct on every count; as always you lose.

Not the fact checker I use.....they don't have the whole debate checked yet but Politifact shows Ryan telling two barely true statements, one flat out lie, while showing Biden saying half truths.

[coolwhip]

Fact Check: Top Ten Worst Lies by Joe Biden in VP Debate
Once again, Joe Biden lied his way through a Vice Presidential debate--just as he did in his contest with Sarah Palin in 2008. This time, the media caught a few of Biden's worst "malarkey" moments--as did his opponent, Paul Ryan, when he could get a word in edgewise.
Here are the top ten worst lies told by Biden during the debate:

10. "With all due respect, that’s a bunch of malarkey....not a single thing he said is accurate." At the outset of the debate, Biden tried to paint Ryan as a liar--when Biden, in fact, was the one lying. Ryan had pointed out: 1) that the White House had distanced itself from the Cairo embassy's apologies on 9/11; 2) that Obama had failed to speak up for Iranian protestors in 2009; 3) that the Obama administration called Syria's dictator a "reformer"; 4) and that the Obama administration is imposing defense cuts and projecting weakness. All of that is true.

9. "The president has met with Bibi [Netanyahu] a dozen times....This is a bunch of stuff." While they have met several times--not a dozen--that includes a meeting at which Obama made the Israeli prime minister enter the White House through a back entrance, refused to take a picture with him, and left him on his own for dinner. Specifically, Ryan had criticized Obama's refusal to meet Netanyahu in New York last month, and to tape talk show interviews instead--a clear snub that sent the wrong signal, again, to Israel's enemies.

8. "Just let the taxes expire like they’re supposed to on those millionaires." Biden's "millionaires" are actually households earning more than $250,000 a year, which includes many middle-class families with two earners, and small business owners in particular who report business earnings as personal income. Biden and Obama have repeatedly labeled those earning over $250,000 as "millionaires and billionaires," distorting the actual impact of their tax plan on the non-millionaires it would hit hardest, who create a vast proportion of small business jobs.

7. "You know, I heard that death panel argument from Sarah Palin. It seems that every vice presidential debate, I hear this kind of stuff about panels." Biden's cheap shot against Palin was an attempt to diminish both her and the man sitting across from him. But Palin never talked about "death panels" in her debate with Biden, for the simple reason that Obamacare had not yet been proposed. Nor did Ryan mention "death panels"--he had addressed the undeniable fact that Obamacare proposes a board to impose cost controls.

6. "The congressman here cut embassy security in his budget by $300 million below what we asked for." Biden's lie about Ryan's budget was an attempt to dodge responsibility for lax embassy security--and to cover up that the Obama called for new cuts to embassy security just days after the 9/11 attacks. Ryan's proposal, which called for a 19% overall decrease in non-defense discretionary spending, does not even mention embassy security--the Obama campaign merely made up that number by applying 19% across the board.

5. "No, they are not four years closer to a nuclear weapon." Biden's attempt to lie about the glaring reality of the Iranian nuclear program fell flat. Iran is indeed four years closer to a nuclear weapon, and the Obama administration--believing it knew better than its predecessors--tried to reinvent the wheel on talks with Iran, causing frustration to our allies in Europe and the Middle East. Meeting after meeting this year has failed to produce results, and the loophole-filled sanctions, while hurting Iran somewhat, are not stopping its nuclear program.

4. "No religious institution, Catholic or otherwise...has to be a vehicle to get contraception in any insurance policy they provide. That is a fact." No, it is not a fact--it is the opposite of a fact, and saying "that is a fact" does not make it any less a blatant lie. The Obama administration is forcing religious institutions to provide contraceptive and abortion drugs through their insurance policies. That is the reason several dozen religious institutions are suing the administration to defend their First Amendment freedom of religion.

3. "It came from this man voting to put two wars on a credit card...I was there. I voted against him." Biden voted for both the Iraq war and the Afghanistan war. He did not vote for George W. Bush's plan to extend coverage of Medicare to prescription drugs (though he voted for an earlier, similar proposal), nor did he vote for the Bush tax cuts. But he voted for both of the wars he derided last night. To quote Bill Clinton's speech to the Democratic National Convention: "It takes some brass to attack a guy for doing what you did."

2. "What we did is we saved $716 billion and put it back -- applied it to Medicare." Biden repeated the lie the Obama administration has been telling since before Obamacare passed in 2010: that cuts to Medicare today were savings that extend the life of the program. They would be--if the same $716 billion wasn't also being used to pay for Obamacare. As Ryan pointed out in 2010, and again last night, you can't double-count the same cuts. Taking $716 billion out of Medicare means exactly that--and hurts, not helps, the program's solvency.

1. "Well, we weren’t told they wanted more security again." Biden lied through his teeth about the fact that the administration--specifically, the State Department--had been told again and again that security on the ground in Libya, and in Benghazi in particular, was inadequate. The day before, in Congressional hearings on the Libya attacks, former regional security director Eric Nordstrom described his frustration with having those requests turned down by the government bureaucracy: "For me the Taliban is on the inside of the building."

[netsalt]

Nice rant. Link please.

Joe is still smiling.

[coolwhip]

Poor nutsalt, his whole obama land is crashing around him. No free obama phone, squatting rights, or loitering in public parks any more...what shall he do?

Stay tuned for this cliff hanger folks! :D

[netsalt]

Yes it is getting tougher to get by on six figures, especially since I can't sleep in the public park anymore making calls on my "Obamaphone". :gah: By the way Joe is still smiling.

[classical]

Yes it is getting tougher to get by on six figures, especially since I can't sleep in the public park anymore making calls on my "Obamaphone". :gah: By the way Joe is still smiling.

When referring to six figure incomes that does not include the cents column. Oh and by the way simpletons always smile.

[k-fridge]

Another whopper from Biden


Biden: “By the way, they talk about this great recession like it fell out of the sky–like, ‘Oh my goodness, where did it come from?’” Biden said. “It came from this man voting to put two wars on a credit card, at the same time, put a prescription drug plan on the credit card, a trillion dollar tax cut for the very wealthy.”

“I was there, I voted against them,” Biden continued. “I said, no, we can’t afford that.”



Wrong, Joe! You voted for the war (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/onpolitics/transcripts/senaterollcall_iraq101002.htm)

[corny]

Whips link is from Breitbart....or at least Breitbart has the facts check thing on their site.......along with about a billion blogs......lol

I would have said "Doodles" link but then someone would come along and say how offended by it they are.

I didnt watch the debate..... no sense in it.... its just a pissing match for show.......

[Mr Bill]

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l286/mrbillpro/OldJoe.jpg

[biodieselman]

The best summation of the VP Debate so far came from Greg Gutfeld...

"Biden is the drunk at the bar;

Martha is the unhappy bartender,

and Ryan is the unfortunate salesman caught in the middle."

[RoBoTeq]

I liked the response better. Tough to run away from the 47%!

Really? Can you please show something that supports your claimed response? I watched the debate from start to finish and I just don't recall what you are claiming ever happening.

I know, I know.... leftists don't want to hassle with facts or have to prove what they say is honest or true.

[RoBoTeq]

This fact check report seems to be as fair as I can find. Both Biden and Ryan are called out for making completely wrong statements, exaggerating statements or using statements made out of context to support their claims; http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/fact-checking-the-vice-presidential-debate/2012/10/12/e900404a-13d0-11e2-be82-c3411b7680a9_blog.html

Biden actually did a lot better than I thought he would. I think Ryan should have pushed Biden's button a little more to get Biden to blow up....I would have. If we just read the transcript of the debate, they come out pretty even. It was Biden's arrogant, unprofessional demeaner that caused me to post a thread about Biden needing to be slapped.

Can you imagine Biden having a heated discussion with a foreign leader?

[ga-hvac-tech]

Interesting scripture for you Bible scholars

Proverbs 29:9

(9) If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet.


Dont forget the famous idiom....None are so blind as those who will not see. :)

One could add: Best to not argue with a person of questionable intelligence... it is like wrestling with a pig in the mud... Sooner or later one realizes the pig is having all the fun.

[ga-hvac-tech]

From the website: Catholicvote.org

Dear Friend of CV,
http://email.vervemail.com/cimages/01c4d5a035de0f387d0a0b2cc0242f46/biden-debate-angry-ap2.jpg

He lied. And he did it on purpose.

Biden said Catholic charities would not have to pay for contraception and other morally objectionable services.

The lie was so bad, that the U.S. Bishops issued a public statement today calling out Biden for his “inaccurate statement of fact.”

And we know why Biden lied. His mission was to deceive Catholic voters.

The Obama-Biden campaign knows they are rapidly losing independent Catholic voters in critical swing states.

(end)

GA is not Catholic, his brother and SIL are. They send notes worth spreading around.

[mcjo tech]

Facts are the facts - the zombie Eddie Munster repeated his tales of pixy dust - Biden laughed. I really enjoyed Lyans complete change of expression at the end, it had that PLEASE vote for me I REALLY DO know what I'm doing look.

Loved the wide eyed Ryan Thank You at the end of the debate

The conserves have their panties all in a wad over this debate.

They know Joe kicked their A$$ so have to hold on to anything they can find like Biden didn't debate respectfully.

Had it been the other way around they would not have said a word regarding it.

Typical conserv rhetoric: Talking out of both sides of their mouth.

Biden kicked Ryans a$$.

Simple as that.

Nuff said.

[chaard]

Really? Can you please show something that supports your claimed response? I watched the debate from start to finish and I just don't recall what you are claiming ever happening.

I know, I know.... leftists don't want to hassle with facts or have to prove what they say is honest or true.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Fft1KSnZJ8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfIp9slQ1c4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[classical]

Loved the wide eyed Ryan Thank You at the end of the debate

The conserves have their panties all in a wad over this debate.

They know Joe kicked their A$$ so have to hold on to anything they can find like Biden didn't debate respectfully.

Had it been the other way around they would not have said a word regarding it.

Typical conserv rhetoric: Talking out of both sides of their mouth.

Biden kicked Ryans a$$.

Simple as that.

Nuff said.

You are delusional!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!very delusional!

[mcjo tech]

You are delusional!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!very delusional!

What are you some type of PHSYCHOLOGIST?

Or is this simply just your OPINION?

Which by the way I couldn't care LESS ABOUT!!!!!!!!!

[chaard]

You are delusional!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!very delusional!
:troll:

[mcjo tech]

:troll:



You would know all about being a TROLL since it is you who just responded without being involved.

Perhaps you should try looking in a mirror sometime.

Oh thats right. I am not supposed to be talking to you.

Or so you say.

I have the same right to post here as you or anyone else.

I suggest you get over it.

[jtrammel]

You are delusional, nobody won the vp debate, Biden's personality looked bad other than that it was a draw. Nobody's a$$ got kicked.

[mcjo tech]

You are delusional, nobody won the vp debate, Biden's personality looked bad other than that it was a draw. Nobody's a$$ got kicked.

So what makes you right and me delusional?

Its all just opinion.

Yours, Mine, the Medias

The same arguement can be made that in fact it is you who is delusional.

Simply just your opinion.

[RoBoTeq]

Loved the wide eyed Ryan Thank You at the end of the debate

The conserves have their panties all in a wad over this debate.

They know Joe kicked their A$$ so have to hold on to anything they can find like Biden didn't debate respectfully.

Had it been the other way around they would not have said a word regarding it.

Typical conserv rhetoric: Talking out of both sides of their mouth.

Biden kicked Ryans a$$.

Simple as that.

Nuff said.
I said at the end of that debate that leftists would say that Biden won the debate no matter what, and this proves that I was right. Any American who does not understand that Biden was rude and unprofessional and is an embarassment to the U.S. is an American who wants to destroy the way the U.S. was meant to be in leiu of creating the Socialist nation that Obama's regime is pushing for.

[chuckcrj]

Oh my goodness!!! A 47 word sentence!!!!!

:D

[RoBoTeq]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Fft1KSnZJ8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfIp9slQ1c4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by coolwhiphttp://hvac-talk.com/vbb/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread.php?p=14376531#post14376531)
I liked when Ryan said to Biden " the wrong words are always coming out of your mouth" lolz :D



I liked the response better. Tough to run away from the 47%!



What does that have to do with what you posted?

[mcjo tech]

I said at the end of that debate that leftists would say that Biden won the debate no matter what, and this proves that I was right. Any American who does not understand that Biden was rude and unprofessional and is an embarassment to the U.S. is an American who wants to destroy the way the U.S. was meant to be in leiu of creating the Socialist nation that Obama's regime is pushing for.

Doesn't PROVE anything.

Its just your opinion.

Nothing more.

[jtrammel]

Doesn't PROVE anything.

Its just your opinion.

Nothing more.

You will see in a few weeks when the majority of opinions kick BamBam and fam to the curb. Socialism doesn't belong in America and Americans will make that well known on Election Day. Nuff said

[RoBoTeq]

You are delusional, nobody won the vp debate, Biden's personality looked bad other than that it was a draw. Nobody's a$$ got kicked.Pretty much how I saw it. Aside from Biden coming off as a total ass, he did a lot better than I expected he would do.

[RoBoTeq]

You would know all about being a TROLL since it is you who just responded without being involved.

Perhaps you should try looking in a mirror sometime.

Oh thats right. I am not supposed to be talking to you.

Or so you say.

I have the same right to post here as you or anyone else.

I suggest you get over it.

Are you libbies having some sort of lover's spat?

[mcjo tech]

This is what nutsack wrote;What does that have to do with what you posted?


So is calling someone a Conservlic.... more offensive then referring to someone as buddy?

Perhaps its time to put the cocktails down and call it a night.

[RoBoTeq]

Doesn't PROVE anything.

Its just your opinion.

Nothing more.
Have I claimed anything more than my opinion?

[mcjo tech]

You will see in a few weeks when the majority of opinions kick BamBam and fam to the curb. Socialism doesn't belong in America and Americans will make that well known on Election Day. Nuff said

You've been wrong before so I am not worried.

[RoBoTeq]

So is calling someone a Conservlic.... more offensive then referring to someone as nutsack?

Perhaps its time to put the cocktails down and call it a night.Typos and syntax errors is all.....

[glennac]

Typos and syntax errors is all.....

Funny thing robo. I can understand someone wanting more big government, welfare, handouts, etc. We see that all the time. But how can someone be so passionate in defense of a Marxist alien like Obama to the point that they will give opinions and falsehoods as facts and think he is the second coming. I mean it is just so absurd.

Sure be glad when the election is over and we don't have to hear this anymore. And peace and prosperity will hopefully come back like when Regan took over from Carter. Thank you, thank you very much

[RoBoTeq]

Don't get too cocky, Glenn. The Socialists under Obama now have more voters (legal and illegal) dependant on government than ever before. The U.S. may well be an Obamanation for at least another four years, unless there is an out and out revolution.

My prediction is that if Obama does get reelected that Biden will be dead before the 2016 election, with another fascist Socialist like Obama running as Obama's VP.

[the mojo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0nERTFo-Sk

Lets ask Joe how he really feels about government intervention in the housing market.
Lets ask Joe about HAMP that should knock that s**t licken grin from his face.

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

[chaard]

Really? Can you please show something that supports your claimed response? I watched the debate from start to finish and I just don't recall what you are claiming ever happening.

I know, I know.... leftists don't want to hassle with facts or have to prove what they say is honest or true.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfIp9slQ1c4&feature=youtube_gdata_player


This is what nutsack wrote;What does that have to do with what you posted?

Biden's responses to Ryan was "I always say what I mean" and the went on to say "if you believe the little seliquiem about the 47% I got a bridge to sell you"
The first video was the wrong link.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr-k48vtj9A&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Go to 3:30min to hear the whole debate on the 47%.

[ga-hvac-tech]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0nERTFo-Sk

Lets ask Joe how he really feels about government intervention in the housing market.
Lets ask Joe about HAMP that should knock that s**t licken grin from his face.

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

Now THAT was funny! Definitely going out to lots of folks... :)

[netsalt]

Really? Can you please show something that supports your claimed response? I watched the debate from start to finish and I just don't recall what you are claiming ever happening.

I know, I know.... leftists don't want to hassle with facts or have to prove what they say is honest or true.

The exact quote "I always say what I mean and so does Mitt Romney"
That is pretty clear for anyone to deduce that he was referring to the infamous Romney tape if you ACTUALLY were able to follow the debate as each candidate expressed his views. I know that is hard to do when you stick your fingers in your ears and repeat La la la ..... in true idealog fashion.








I bet Joe is still smiling!:grin2:

[netsalt]

This is what nutsack wrote;What does that have to do with what you posted?

Previous posts explained this in detail, I am not surprised with the nut... comment. Conservatives get nasty when proven wrong and the name calling begins - as predictable as the sunrise. Their arrogance is truly astounding.

[RoBoTeq]

Previous posts explained this in detail, I am not surprised with the nut... comment. Conservatives get nasty when proven wrong and the name calling begins - as predictable as the sunrise. Their arrogance is truly astounding.Oh come on....put on your big boy pants and grow a set....

As long as I am messing with you, you are still worthy of being messed with by me. If you are going to whine about playful banter, then you are no longer worthy of my attention.

My liberal rationale for the mispelling of your username is that it was a spelling error or syntax error. The honest response is that I am messing with you and expect you to be able to have a little fun about our differences in opinions. If you are too prissy to handle a little playfulness, then I have no desire to attempt to communicate with you. I'm having fun. If you are not, then I will discontinue trying to communicate with you.

[Gib's Son]

Yes, but the name calling does need to come to end. It did get reported but not by Netsalt. I think he handled it quite well.

[RoBoTeq]

Yes, but the name calling does need to come to end. It did get reported but not by Netsalt. I think he handled it quite well.

I have no problem with not bothering with those who are that whiney. It's not like we are ever going to understand one another anyway.

[ga-hvac-tech]

Yes, but the name calling does need to come to end. It did get reported but not by Netsalt. I think he handled it quite well.

Hmmm... third party reporting of infractions... Sounds like a liberal tactic to avoid having to read the hard truth... what will those childish liberals come up with now... :(

[RoBoTeq]

Hmmm... third party reporting of infractions... Sounds like a liberal tactic to avoid having to read the hard truth... what will those childish liberals come up with now... :(Of course it's a whiney leftist tactic. The very same posters who whine about name calling are the very ones who constantly call others names without getting as much attention because the more conservative posters here are not so whiney as to stir up trouble by reporting leftist namecalling.

Just like everything else in life, leftists just have to suck the fun and comraderie out of every aspect of life. The only way leftists want laughter is when it is someone like Joe Biden laughing like a clown fool during what is supposed to be a respectful debate. The hypocrisy is always at it's peak when leftists fein being offended.

[ga-hvac-tech]

Just my :.02: here...

Seems there is a similar trait among the libs... a sense of self absorption. They seem to behave as though everything is about them... and if they just irritate everyone else enough... they will get their own way. Kinda like they are entitled to having the world delivered to them on a platter... Spoiled child is what I think of them.
Reminds me of my EX... For her sake I hope she has grown up over the last 20+ years since we parted ways... however I have never in my life seen a more spoiled child in an adult body.

What I would LOVE to see is a decade long DEPRESSION, where just having enough to eat was really HARD work... and the govt was totally BROKE, so NO handouts at all. We would see two things:
One: the demise of liberal thinking, and
Two: a real cleansing of the gene pool...

Grin to both... :)

[coolwhip]

In all the years I have been on this site, I have never reported anyone for anything. What the hell is wrong with people these days?

[Tool-Slinger]

I reported that Robo. I found the term offensive and thought it should be removed. Just to keep it PG rated here. You know I have posted worse. I just thought the term should be removed from the thread. I know that is not an actual cuss-word, but I refer back to the PG rating. I never suggested there be any trouble over it at any point, I am just trying to help keep the forum PG rated.

[mcjo tech]

I reported that Robo. I found the term offensive and thought it should be removed. Just to keep it PG rated here. You know I have posted worse. I just thought the term should be removed from the thread. I know that is not an actual cuss-word, but I refer back to the PG rating. I never suggested there be any trouble over it at any point, I am just trying to help keep the forum PG rated.

Thanks for clearing things up.

I am sure they all thought it was....... well.....lets just say some "liberal" on this forum.

[mcjo tech]

oops

[mcjo tech]

Of course it's a whiney leftist tactic. The very same posters who whine about name calling are the very ones who constantly call others names without getting as much attention because the more conservative posters here are not so whiney as to stir up trouble by reporting leftist namecalling.

Just like everything else in life, leftists just have to suck the fun and comraderie out of every aspect of life. The only way leftists want laughter is when it is someone like Joe Biden laughing like a clown fool during what is supposed to be a respectful debate. The hypocrisy is always at it's peak when leftists fein being offended.


Open mouth insert foot.

Wrong again.

[mcjo tech]

Just my :.02: here...

Seems there is a similar trait among the libs... a sense of self absorption. They seem to behave as though everything is about them... and if they just irritate everyone else enough... they will get their own way. Kinda like they are entitled to having the world delivered to them on a platter... Spoiled child is what I think of them.
Reminds me of my EX... For her sake I hope she has grown up over the last 20+ years since we parted ways... however I have never in my life seen a more spoiled child in an adult body.

What I would LOVE to see is a decade long DEPRESSION, where just having enough to eat was really HARD work... and the govt was totally BROKE, so NO handouts at all. We would see two things:
One: the demise of liberal thinking, and
Two: a real cleansing of the gene pool...

Grin to both... :)

So there is not a Mrs. Ga-hvac-tech?

Who would have thunk it?

[ga-hvac-tech]

In all the years I have been on this site, I have never reported anyone for anything. What the hell is wrong with people these days?


I reported that Robo. I found the term offensive and thought it should be removed. Just to keep it PG rated here. You know I have posted worse. I just thought the term should be removed from the thread. I know that is not an actual cuss-word, but I refer back to the PG rating. I never suggested there be any trouble over it at any point, I am just trying to help keep the forum PG rated.

The only thing(s) I have reported were things which could potentially be between R and XXX rated... that is just not good for the site.

G rated... really... :) LOL

[Tool-Slinger]

Thanks for clearing things up.

I am sure they all thought it was....... well.....lets just say some "liberal" on this forum.

Thank you MC for your thoughtful reply.

My understanding is... anyone can report a post. It could be an advertiser/sponsor executive. or a 12 year old reader, or a person with an whiny agenda, or a random idiot. I don't think ARP attracts many sponsor executives or 12 year olds, but it is far better than one of us report a post than them. That does not mean that we need to try to get each other in trouble, quite the opposite, we need to help each other 'police' ourselves and keep the conversations civil. ARP is an expendable forum, I love it and do not want it to go bye-bye. I may be wrong, that is just my understanding.

It is kinda funny though, libbies caught the heat for being 'crybabies' and reporting a post. :D

I will retire from being an ARPC member anytime there is any consensus that I should. I am just another poster here, voluntary position, and I can report posts whether I am an ARPC member or not. I like you guys, not all of your ideas, but I generally enjoy the forum.

Back on topic:
Joe Biden should be horse-whipped and set in stocks in the public square.

[Tool-Slinger]

The only thing(s) I have reported were things which could potentially be between R and XXX rated... that is just not good for the site.

G rated... really... :) LOL

I said PG, not G. WTF?

[mcjo tech]

Back on topic:
Joe Biden should be horse-whipped and set in stocks in the public square.


:grin2:

[RoBoTeq]

I reported that Robo. I found the term offensive and thought it should be removed. Just to keep it PG rated here. You know I have posted worse. I just thought the term should be removed from the thread. I know that is not an actual cuss-word, but I refer back to the PG rating. I never suggested there be any trouble over it at any point, I am just trying to help keep the forum PG rated.
OK, I can respect this reason. I'll give the libbies a pass this time, even though there was on line whining over my playfulness from them.

[RoBoTeq]

Thanks for clearing things up.

I am sure they all thought it was....... well.....lets just say some "liberal" on this forum.
Who says it still wasn't?.....I'm just saying....

[RoBoTeq]

Open mouth insert foot.

Wrong again.Do you have a link to support your claim?

[coolwhip]

Its a safe wager to say that liberals do most of the whining and complaining. If you could place bets on it, one could get rich in no time.

[mcjo tech]

Who says it still wasn't?.....I'm just saying....

Even when you are COMPLETELY wrong and have made yourself look silly you still can not man up and admit it.

So much for your accepting personal responsibility that you harp on about.

Instead you deflect and side step as usual.

Keep dancing.

We all here love to watch you 2 step.

[mcjo tech]

Its a safe wager to say that liberals do most of the whining and complaining. If you could place bets on it, one could get rich in no time.



Well not true in this case.

You would have lost that bet.

Just more snooty liberal bashing from you.

But feel free to continue to make opinionated points without any justification.

[netsalt]

I don't think I was whining, just pointing out the arrogance and short sightedness of some people on the right. When I pointed out the shall we say obvious demographic composition of the Republican party, in particular the new Repubs I was called on it and took it like a man and quit bringing it up - even if I am right about it. Name calling has never bothered me but the denial that the conservative tactic of name calling as a prime debating tactic does not change the facts. What hacked off these people about Joe Biden is that he gave them back some of their own medicine by being arrogant, condescending and laughing at what he sees as the ridiculousness of their position. Guess what? It worked and by that measure alone he accomplished what he set out to do.

[Tool-Slinger]

medicine by being arrogant, condescending and laughing

So you agree. While that may give some smug satisfaction to far left voters, I doubt it will play well with independents/undecideds.

[netsalt]

He was successful at what he set out to do. VP debates rarely garner votes.

[ga-hvac-tech]

Thank you MC for your thoughtful reply.

My understanding is... anyone can report a post. It could be an advertiser/sponsor executive. or a 12 year old reader, or a person with an whiny agenda, or a random idiot. I don't think ARP attracts many sponsor executives or 12 year olds, but it is far better than one of us report a post than them. That does not mean that we need to try to get each other in trouble, quite the opposite, we need to help each other 'police' ourselves and keep the conversations civil. ARP is an expendable forum, I love it and do not want it to go bye-bye. I may be wrong, that is just my understanding.

It is kinda funny though, libbies caught the heat for being 'crybabies' and reporting a post. :D

I will retire from being an ARPC member anytime there is any consensus that I should. I am just another poster here, voluntary position, and I can report posts whether I am an ARPC member or not. I like you guys, not all of your ideas, but I generally enjoy the forum.

Back on topic:
Joe Biden should be horse-whipped and set in stocks in the public square.


I said PG, not G. WTF?

Agree Biden should be made a public spectacle... not holding my breath though...

Sorry Tool... just had to take a swipe at the 'G' rating idea... too PC for me... <grin>

[Mr Bill]

My understanding is... anyone can report a post. It could be an advertiser/sponsor executive. or a 12 year old reader, or a person with an whiny agenda, or a random idiot.



Now that's funny! I don't care who you are. :grin2:



http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv351/flickersucks/larry_the_cable_guy.jpg

[netsalt]

You just can't make this stuff up, this is why Lyan gets treated the way he does. Twice washed pots and pans, is that anything like twice baked potatoes.

YOUNGSTOWN, Ohio — Paul Ryan visited a soup kitchen here Saturday on his way to the airport, but by the time the GOP vice presidential nominee and his family had arrived shortly before noon, the grits, sausage and doughnuts had been served, the hall was empty of patrons and the volunteers appeared to have already cleaned up. [...] Ryan stood at the sink and took some large metal pans that did not appear to be dirty, soaped them up and rinsed them, remarking as the cameras clicked and the TV cameras rolled that he had spent a summer washing dishes when he was younger.
“We had a Hobart, though, which was — you get calluses on your fingers because it’s so hot,” he said, referring to the Hobart industrial dishwashing machine.

Quite the guy, just who I want representing me - a fraud. :gah:

[AStudent]

You just can't make this stuff up, this is why Lyan gets treated the way he does. Twice washed pots and pans, is that anything like twice baked potatoes.

YOUNGSTOWN, Ohio -- Paul Ryan visited a soup kitchen here Saturday on his way to the airport, but by the time the GOP vice presidential nominee and his family had arrived shortly before noon, the grits, sausage and doughnuts had been served, the hall was empty of patrons and the volunteers appeared to have already cleaned up. [...] Ryan stood at the sink and took some large metal pans that did not appear to be dirty, soaped them up and rinsed them, remarking as the cameras clicked and the TV cameras rolled that he had spent a summer washing dishes when he was younger.
"We had a Hobart, though, which was -- you get calluses on your fingers because it's so hot," he said, referring to the Hobart industrial dishwashing machine.

Quite the guy, just who I want representing me - a fraud. :gah:

Yeah, and the deal about Romney taking time to do manual labor is a joke too. They say he picked up garbage for a day....sure it was hard disgusting work.....but did he have to live knowing he would have to do this job every day, with little pay, and that he wouldn't have a cush house and millions to go home to?

What a joke.

[Gib's Son]

I reported that Robo. I found the term offensive and thought it should be removed. Just to keep it PG rated here. You know I have posted worse. I just thought the term should be removed from the thread. I know that is not an actual cuss-word, but I refer back to the PG rating. I never suggested there be any trouble over it at any point, I am just trying to help keep the forum PG rated.

Yeah, just try not to post your complaints in the open forum......LOL. I was panicking trying to get it moved ASAP while wife was yapping in my ear. I doubt many people got the chance to read it before I moved it. Hey....I've made a few red faced mistakes here myself so I'm not casting stones....just kicking a few pebbles your way.

But for the record....we try and keep both sides of the isle clean and be as fair as we can here.

[AStudent]

Funny how a post got reported and you people assume it was a liberal and turned out not to be.....are conservatives not the ones who believe in law and order? Yet we have an example of a "conservative" whining when they get caught breaking the rules.

This political talk is for the birds, people flipflop on their ideals so much it's pointless to debate.

[Tommy knocker]

Na na na na. Na na na na. Hey hey hey. Good by!! Repeat!!

[RoBoTeq]

Even when you are COMPLETELY wrong and have made yourself look silly you still can not man up and admit it.

So much for your accepting personal responsibility that you harp on about.

Instead you deflect and side step as usual.

Keep dancing.

We all here love to watch you 2 step.

More leftist whining over others having fun....I'll bet you are a real pleasure at parties. Let me guess, you stopped going to bars because you wound up with your head stuffed in the toilet too often?

[RoBoTeq]

Well not true in this case.

You would have lost that bet.

Just more snooty liberal bashing from you.

But feel free to continue to make opinionated points without any justification.
LOL! You are whining and complaining that you don't whine and complain......

[RoBoTeq]

I don't think I was whining, just pointing out the arrogance and short sightedness of some people on the right. When I pointed out the shall we say obvious demographic composition of the Republican party, in particular the new Repubs I was called on it and took it like a man and quit bringing it up - even if I am right about it. Name calling has never bothered me but the denial that the conservative tactic of name calling as a prime debating tactic does not change the facts. What hacked off these people about Joe Biden is that he gave them back some of their own medicine by being arrogant, condescending and laughing at what he sees as the ridiculousness of their position. Guess what? It worked and by that measure alone he accomplished what he set out to do.

Another one still whining that they don't whine....must be too many X chromosomes syndrome

[RoBoTeq]

He was successful at what he set out to do. VP debates rarely garner votes.That's good. You girls just keep sticking to that "hope" thing that your dear leader keeps telling you about.

Even many liberals are saying that Biden was rude. Only the hard core leftists are defending him, and that's just because they don't have any more social skills than Biden does. Conservatives were going to vote for Romney anyway. But, I'd be willing to bet that there are moderates on the fence who are now thinking twice about having to be subjected to Biden for another four years and having him be the Democratic nominee for the presidency in 2016.

[RoBoTeq]

You just can't make this stuff up, this is why Lyan gets treated the way he does. Twice washed pots and pans, is that anything like twice baked potatoes.

YOUNGSTOWN, Ohio — Paul Ryan visited a soup kitchen here Saturday on his way to the airport, but by the time the GOP vice presidential nominee and his family had arrived shortly before noon, the grits, sausage and doughnuts had been served, the hall was empty of patrons and the volunteers appeared to have already cleaned up. [...] Ryan stood at the sink and took some large metal pans that did not appear to be dirty, soaped them up and rinsed them, remarking as the cameras clicked and the TV cameras rolled that he had spent a summer washing dishes when he was younger.
“We had a Hobart, though, which was — you get calluses on your fingers because it’s so hot,” he said, referring to the Hobart industrial dishwashing machine.

Quite the guy, just who I want representing me - a fraud. :gah:
And as usual, just another leftist posting unsubstantiated drivel they picked up on the Rainbow page of some Socialist rag.

I suppose this means that Ryan has just invented the "photo op".

What a bunch of whiners.....

[corny]

Yeah, and the deal about Romney taking time to do manual labor is a joke too. They say he picked up garbage for a day....sure it was hard disgusting work.....but did he have to live knowing he would have to do this job every day, with little pay, and that he wouldn't have a cush house and millions to go home to?

What a joke.

What i found funny was when someone in a store asked Obama which weedeater on display he liked best and he pointed to a leaf blower...... they asked Romney the same thing and he walked over a few Aisles and then pointed to a mexican.

While it really doesnt matter....it would be nice to have a prez who could sit down with joe everyman and discuss mowers and weedeaters and working on the car.....fixing the sink......

But it will never happen.......probably not until we see our first hispanic president who came to this country illegally.... and thats gonna be 60-70 years off according to calculations from scienticians.

[RoBoTeq]

Funny how a post got reported and you people assume it was a liberal and turned out not to be.....are conservatives not the ones who believe in law and order? Yet we have an example of a "conservative" whining when they get caught breaking the rules.

This political talk is for the birds, people flipflop on their ideals so much it's pointless to debate.Conservatives believe in order, liberals believe that laws are for them to control others with.

[RoBoTeq]

Na na na na. Na na na na. Hey hey hey. Good by!! Repeat!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsaTElBljOE&feature=player_detailpage

[ar_hvac_man]

Id like to slap Biden. As a matter of fact I'd enjoy knocking the smirk off all the candidates lying, flip flopping faces. What I find entertaining is watching and listening to all you who actually think one choice is better than the other. I truly hope Romney wins and look forward to all the crow eating and excuse making that will be discussed once that out of touch, flip flopping, billionaire con artist, fails to do a damn bit better than Nobama. As our resident Elvis impersonator would say, Thank you, thank you very much....

And to beat him to the punch.....sure I'm a commie. Lol

[mcjo tech]

LOL! You are whining and complaining that you don't whine and complain......

Typical Robo. 67,428 posts and counting and not once has he ever been WRONG.

Well at least according to him.

Robo, you should contact Guinness.

Could be a world record.

Didn't think you would MAN UP.

Guess you don't know when its appropriate to shutup.

Must not be your strong suit.

Go ahead keep yaking. It only makes you look worse.

If thats possible.

[AStudent]

Conservatives believe in order, liberals believe that laws are for them to control others with.

So your saying that many here that claim to be conservative are not?

[RoBoTeq]

Typical Robo. 67,428 posts and counting and not once has he ever been WRONG.

Well at least according to him.

Robo, you should contact Guinness.

Could be a world record.

Didn't think you would MAN UP.

Guess you don't know when its appropriate to shutup.

Must not be your strong suit.

Go ahead keep yaking. It only makes you look worse.

If thats possible.
Geeze...you're still whining....

I once thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken.

[RoBoTeq]

So your saying that many here that claim to be conservative are not?

Not for me to judge. I do know that there are many here who claim that I am conservative when I am not in all things.

[printer2]

Not for me to judge. I do know that there are many here who claim that I am conservative when I am not in all things.


But certainly can not see that in others.

[chaard]

Back to the OP.

Biden needs to be biatch slapped for all the lies he told during the debate.


We — this is a president who's gone out and done everything he as said he was going to do.

Obama hasn't done everything he said he was going to do. Gitmo is still open.


Let's all calm down a little bit here. Iran is more isolated today than when we took office. It was on the ascendancy when we took office. It is totally isolated.


Not only is Iran trading with China, they are also trading with Israel. $2 billion annually.


And by the way, they talk about this Great Recession if it fell out of the sky, like, oh my goodness, where did it come from? It came from this man voting to put two wars in a credit card, to at the same time put a prescription drug benefit on the credit card, a trillion- dollar tax cut for a — very wealthy. I was there. I voted against him. I said, no, we can't afford that. And now all of a sudden these guys are so seized with a concern about the debt that they created

Biden did vote for BOTH wars. And so did many Democrats. Both sides of the aisle helped create the debt. Not just Republicans. Democrats are not blameless in the mounting debt.

I got more but I gotta go.

[glennac]

Not for me to judge. I do know that there are many here who claim that I am conservative when I am not in all things.

Well you certainly aren't when it comes to social issues like drugs and sins of the flesh :bsing: and I believe abortion for openers. But there is always hope you will see the light here robo.:whistle: Thank you, thank you very much

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xggZnVwkt6A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0BbAqq_Xg4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0BbAqq_Xg4)

[chaard]

We immediately went out and rescued General Motors



But you know what, I know he had no commitment to the automobile industry. He just let — he said, let it go bankrupt, period, let it drop out. All this talk — we saved a million jobs. Two hundred thousand people are working today.

GM was already in Chapter 11 bankruptcy when they finally got around bailing them out. Not only that but dealerships were already on the chopping block.
How is it they saved a million jobs but only 200,000 are working today? What happened to the other 800,000 jobs.
Chapter 11 is not the death of a company. It's restructuring. They would have survived anyway. Now we own hundreds of thousands of stock that is worth less than when the Govt bailed them out. The taxpayers stand to loose $25 BILLION when the govt sells off its stock.
GM is in no way better off today than it was 3yrs ago.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/300075/obama-and-gm-cook-books-john-lott-jr

[Gib's Son]

Funny how a post got reported and you people assume it was a liberal and turned out not to be.....are conservatives not the ones who believe in law and order? Yet we have an example of a "conservative" whining when they get caught breaking the rules.

This political talk is for the birds, people flipflop on their ideals so much it's pointless to debate.

I assure you, there are whiners from both sides of the isles. And not every report is whining. It's those that jump to conclusions that I find the funniest because a good amoun of reported posts come from someone that is not even involved in the conversation or thread. They are being good citizens which help us ARP members keep you natives in line and sponsors off our backs so you guy's can whine we you chose to.:grin2:

[AStudent]

I assure you, there are whiners from both sides of the isles. And not every report is whining. It's those that jump to conclusions that I find the funniest because a good amoun of reported posts come from someone that is not even involved in the conversation or thread. They are being good citizens which help us ARP members keep you natives in line and sponsors off our backs so you guy's can whine we you chose to.:grin2:

Got ya....one thing I noticed is that if you do a Google search of something, and it so happens that HVAC Talk has a thread on the topic searched, HVAC Talk will show up in the search.

So....if someone types in the word drug, they might find a post from random HVAC Talk native calling another a foul name.....what kind of impression does that leave? It makes the site look bad.

[RoBoTeq]

Well you certainly aren't when it comes to social issues like drugs and sins of the flesh :bsing: and I believe abortion for openers. But there is always hope you will see the light here robo.:whistle: Thank you, thank you very much

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xggZnVwkt6A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0BbAqq_Xg4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0BbAqq_Xg4)
My personal theological beliefs run differentely than my social beliefs for all Americans do simply because I recognize and respect that others don't have the same theological beliefs that I do.

I believe that homosexuallity is against the will of God the Creator, but I don't want laws criminalizing homosexuals for what they do in private or for being open about their relationships and affections for one another within a respectful manner equivilent to heterosexual behaviour in public.

I am on the fence over abortion other than for when the fetus is able to live on it's own or for if and when the spiritual nature of the unborn fetus bonds within the fetus. These are both unknown factors, so to be on the side of caution, I believe that any abortion should only be done during the very early stages of pregnancy. Then again, I also believe that if you can't prevent an unwanted pregnancy that was not forced on the woman, you may not really have much reason to be having sex at all.