Wife moving out this week

[lakeman1234]

Well I should have more alert and saw it comming but didn't figure it out until it was too late. Once I did start to figure out she was thinking seriously about it she had alread looked at a place to live and had started making arrangements. Couldn't talk her out of it and have since found out she is seeing someone else. That person came between us several years go and used to be a good friend until then. Any way have to get used to having the whole house to my self. I would have been devistated over this but when I figured out something was up and she started to lie to me about a bunch of things I started checking up on things and did some covert things to find out what was going on. I am glad I did. She kept telling me what she thought I wanted to hear and would do something totally different. Now that I see all the lies she has been telling me I don't want to live with someone like that. Now don't get me wrong I am sure this failed marriage is just as much my fault for things I have done in the past. Now I am helping her move out. I dont really have any super hard feeling about this but being lied to does seem to piss me off a bit. It has made it easier to deal with it.
Thanks for listening.

[jacob perkins]

I'm sorry I have no wisdom to share...


dont worry though.

[James 3528]

makes things easier to deal with.


She will just start lying to him and them to each other.

Move on.

[artie415569]

I hope her furnace breaks down and she calls some hack to fix it and he can't figure it out!!!lol

[Swampfox]

Hooking up before spliting with you shows her lack of character and insecurity (afraid to be alone) I know it sucks right now but you are better off.

Now go bang her sister :D

[Mr Bill]

lakeman1234, been married 33 years here and the "one" thing that has keep us together is that we both wanted to continue to work things out, even after we were married 9 years, I decided to jump the fence and found out it may be greener, but you still have to mow it and she took me back and I am here to stay until death do us part.

When there is someone else out there drawing your spouse away it's almost impossible to get them to stay, they have to go out there and find out just like I did, personally I would not burn any bridges and keep in touch if she agrees, and last but not least, if you do Love her and did not really want this to happen praying sure don't hurt any, not a lot more advise here, but I am sorry to see this happen marriage should be for life.

[James 3528]

Originally posted by swampfox
Hooking up before spliting with you shows her lack of character and insecurity (afraid to be alone) I know it sucks right now but you are better off.

Now go bang her sister :D

It usually shows she's a slut.

[lakeman1234]

Actually I think it really bugs her that I have been really nice about it. Even when I asked her if she was moving out. She told me she hadn't made up her mind and I told her I knew who the land lord was and what town she was moving to. Also I was very nice about it when I told her I knew for 2 weeks she had been lying to me. When I found out something was up I decided not to get blindsided by the whole thing and keep one step ahead of her. That was the best move I ever made.
However I would like to get back together but if it doesn't happen it wasn't meant to be. I am not buring any bridges but trying to be helpful. That probiably bugs her more than anything. Also it bugs her on how I seem to know what is going on.

[James 3528]

It bugs me you still want to kiss her ass. Women's asses are like telephone poles. There is another one just down the street.

[artie415569]

I hope her furnace breaks down and she calls some hack to fix it and he can't figure it out!!!lol

[dec]

hummmmm.... well dont look at me. Not like I have ever had a clue with women. They come and go, usally leaving me more screwed up.

Rotten way to be but I just dont look at it as that long term thing. Guess thats my defense after so many times of it not working. Kinda makes it a no win situation but I will never again let it affect what I do for a living.

Did that once and it wasnt worth it. Years of building up a business and then to put someone above it and to have them just walk away leaving me so disfunctional I could hardly get a thing done.

Just stick to your job and things will get better. After a while you will wish it happened sooner. Just dont do anything major without really thinking about the consequences and take a little time to make sure thats what you really want to do.

I did things on the spur of a moment ..... that was a bad idea lol.

[Swampfox]

Originally posted by James 3528

Originally posted by swampfox
Hooking up before spliting with you shows her lack of character and insecurity (afraid to be alone) I know it sucks right now but you are better off.

Now go bang her sister :D

It usually shows she's a slut.

I was being diplomatic

[James 3528]

I took a liar and cheat back once. You end up hating yourself.

[captainrat]

Originally posted by James 3528

Originally posted by swampfox
Hooking up before spliting with you shows her lack of character and insecurity (afraid to be alone) I know it sucks right now but you are better off.

Now go bang her sister :D

It usually shows she's a slut.
whts wrong with being a slut?
men can be sluts too, a slut can allso be faithful too
sluts are more fun.
she isnt a slut, most of us are sluts
lakeman is she hot ?
post a pix for us so we can get an idea of what your dealing with.

[lakeman1234]

Are you guys curious as to how I am figuring out what she is doing? This is something most people have never though of or don't know how to get it. It is kind of unethical but when you are dealing with someone who is deceving you and doing things behind your back all I can say is all is fair in love and war.

And I would highly recomend this if you think something is going on that you should be aware of.

[karsthuntr]

okay lakeman, give up your secret. :D

[captainrat]

Originally posted by lakeman1234
Are you guys curious as to how I am figuring out what she is doing? This is something most people have never though of or don't know how to get it. It is kind of unethical but when you are dealing with someone who is deceving you and doing things behind your back all I can say is all is fair in love and war.

And I would highly recomend this if you think something is going on that you should be aware of.
dont be deceitful

[Edited by captainrat on 09-22-2006 at 11:34 PM]

[jacob perkins]

Originally posted by karsthuntr
okay lakeman, give up your secret. :D

will it be an episode of "Cheaters" ?

[lakeman1234]

eblaster
http://www.spectorsoft.com/products/eBlaster_Windows/index.html

This is a program for computers that is usually for parents who want to keep an eye on what their kids are doing on line. It tracks everything, including passwords as it has a keystroke logger. It will also track instant messaging from your computer and to your computer. It emails me every email she sends or receives. It tells you every website visited and what programs were run. It also gives me a report once a day on all activities on the computer. Also very stealth and the antivirus programs don't find this either.

This is a quote from the website:

Stealth Technology
eBlaster does not show up as an icon, does not appear in the Windows system tray, does not appear in Windows Programs, does not show up in the Windows task list, cannot be uninstalled without the eBlaster password YOU specify, and eBlaster does not slow down the operation of the computer it is recording.

eBlaster does not initiate connections to the Internet and will only forward email and send activity reports when the monitored computer is already connected to the Internet.

Not bad for $100.

It can be uninstalled 3 ways.

1 By being at the computer and using your password to gain access to the program and hitting the uninstall command.

2 By the date. You can specify eblaster to be uninstalled on any date you select. I have it set to uninstall on valentines day. How appropiate.

3 By the subject line of an email. You type in a phrase in eblaster and it will compare the subject line of each email with the phrase and if they match it will automatically uninstall. I have tried this and the computer uninstalls it and doesn't so much as blink.


Please bear in mind I would have never resorted to this except I had figured out she was lying to me and I suspected she was seeing someone else. I just wanted to know exactly what was going on behind my back. Had I have not done this I would have been blind sided and devistated by this.

Like I said it is easier for me to let her go when I see exactly what she is doing compared to what she is telling me.

[bruce campbell]

Originally posted by lakeman1234
Actually I think it really bugs her that I have been really nice about it. Even when I asked her if she was moving out. She told me she hadn't made up her mind and I told her I knew who the land lord was and what town she was moving to. Also I was very nice about it when I told her I knew for 2 weeks she had been lying to me. When I found out something was up I decided not to get blindsided by the whole thing and keep one step ahead of her. That was the best move I ever made.
However I would like to get back together but if it doesn't happen it wasn't meant to be. I am not buring any bridges but trying to be helpful. That probiably bugs her more than anything. Also it bugs her on how I seem to know what is going on.

What bothers her is the fact she wanted you to be pi$$ed off and start a fight so she could justify her actions. But you didn't and now she feels guilty because she knows that she is in the wrong. Been there, done that.

By the way, tell us how you figured out what was going on. It's alright, most of us in here are unethical people and realy want to know. Maybe it could come in handy some day.

[lakeman1234]

Bruce yours posted a couple of seconds after mine. This is well worth the money. Great tool to keep an eye on the kids if needed.

[lakeman1234]

One other thing I actually bought it on ebay new for $80. I downloaded the program off the internet and the business sent me the key code by email so I had it running in less than 3 hours after buying it. The program disk came about a week later.

[Swampfox]

I read on another forum where a guy used the spy software to catch his girlfriend cheating, he decided to send her out in style.

So one last romp in the sack, got her in a comprimising position and "PIITB" lol without lubrication, afterwards he threw the printed out evidence on the bed for her to read.

[lakeman1234]

I like that swampfox. However I am trying not to really piss her off real bad. Should this come to divorce which I think it will, I don't want to declare world war 3 just yet.

[The Penguin]

I did guess right lakeman that you used tracker software,
My buddy did the same thing when He suspected his wife of cheating - she was using her work email to comunicate and he also accessed her cell phone while she was in the shower and he accessed her messages
the spy software alloed him to access her work email and discover all the info.

Its a shiat sandwich divorce.

Ps right now you are seperated not divorced that can take a yr or more to achieve. start protecting your assets now.

Also keep it civil and polite no matter how much you want to get back at her ( OH and you will trust me!) other wise the courts will make you pay.

Hire the best lawyer you can (this is not DIY) or she will clean your clock I gurranty you she will in time try to get everything don't worry if she says she won't she will if she doesn't I'll have a friend of my give me a good groin kick!

Good luck your going to need it and a good lawyer

[coolwhip]

First time is for love, second time is for money.

[lakeman1234]

I will tell you what I am thinking of doing. I am hoping the SOB she is seeing will log into his hotmail account on her computer. If he does I will have his pass word. I will wait a few months and monitor his e-mails then all hell will break loose. I am thinking seriously about checking everyone in his address book on hotmail as a blank carbon copy (so no one will know who else this will be sent too) and sending out a one page e-mail from him telling something like:
"I have had these feeling for a few years and want to let everyone know that I have been bisexual for a few years but have decided that I am gay. Maybe even suggest that he is HIV positive. And tell everyone please don't talk to me about this as I am a little bit embaresed about it."

Then change his pass word and the hints that allow you back into your account incase you forgot your password. Then the a$$ hole will never be able to use that account again and will loose all his contacts.

[James 3528]

This is stupid. You are projecting the kind of character that is making people think you got what you deserved when first it looked like you were a victim. You don't need a program or spy operation to let you know your relationship is over. Go look in the bed. Empty, right? You helped her move, right?

[lakeman1234]

True but doesn't mean I can't think about it.

[idontgetit]

Originally posted by lakeman1234
True but doesn't mean I can't think about it.

The best thing for you to think about is research on a good lawyer and moving on with life.

Why you would at any level consider renewing a relationship with a known liar is beyond reson.

Do you have to be nasty to her? No, but you should ask yourself why you want to associate with her at all.

[smurphy]

i want to know is did she stop having sex with you while this was going on?
I wouldn't even thing of taking her back, once a cheat always a cheat. Do you know if she wants a contested or non-contested divorce? Do you live in a no fault state? Do you have kids?

Forget about her *****, its a business affair now.You need to be smarter about this subject than her, play your cards right and you won't get screwed.

[Edited by jrbenny on 09-23-2006 at 10:10 AM]

[captainrat]

post the pix, & stop messing around with her email, it only shows insecurity & immaturity.

[MikeJ]

I'm glad I made it to the end of this thread. Five minutes to midnight and you are up thinking of ways to retaliate?

Time to take James' advice.

You are now entering the twilight zone and anything can happen there. You can begin to be obsessed with circumstance surrounding you. (which seemed to be the theme of that sixties show).

Hell, just lock and load and spend the next twenty in prison.

Or, stop being a nice guy. She moved out. Be done with her. If you find her on your doorstep one day, then deal with it then, not now. Go on with your life, do things you once wanted to do but got held back if that is the case.
Go fishing with some buddies you left back in your past. Renew relationships that got lost.

Get help if your nose keeps going where it don't belong.
Burn the evidence.

[Swampfox]

Yeah it was a good idea to do that to find out the truth, be sure to document all of that for your divorce, but using it to retaliate would be a bad idea, although Im sure its tempting, be the better person and let karma run its course.

[rws]

just remember, if we live long enough we get to watch people get what they have coming to them!!!

[Mr Bill]

Originally posted by MikeJ
Five minutes to midnight and you are up thinking of ways to retaliate?

And that is burning bridges! and he said he was not going to burn any bridges well that will surly burn them all down.

[johnl45]

Lucky You, I can't get mine to go no matter what I do or say.

[wallatech]

Screw that. Go beat the snot out of the SOB, give him a country ass whopping he deserves it, to bad can't do same to cheating wife, i guess you could but i don't hit females. I like where you are going with his e-mail!!! Don't let the guys on here talk you out of it. They are the same people who cried to mommy when lunch money got stolen.

[rivethog]

I've never understood being mad at,"beating up", or "getting even with" the "3rd" person, when it comes to cheating. It takes 2 to tango. If the 3rd person is single, who are they "cheating" on? If a spouse/partner is not committed enough to a relationship to refrain from cheating, it's not the 3rd persons fault.

[secorp]

The guy SHE LEFT FOR, forget about him, it took two to cheat. your EX is the real threat. lawyer time or she is going to clean your arse out big time dude. she is now the enemy big time, you need to get over your feelings for her. take no more calls and limit your contact with her, no matter how much you want to shaq back up, you have to D list her from your life and pronto.

If you need a fix, call a local escourt and start forgeting about the unnamed one, remember you never pay for sex you pay for her to leave.

sorry for your Jerry Springer life, move on it will get better.

[lakeman1234]

Thanks for the advice guys. You know the guy she is seeing wouldn't bother me so much but he used to be a good friend. Had it been someone I didn't know, it would have been easier. I just think that when a friend tries to come between you and your woman that is about as low as it comes.

[lakeman1234]

Thanks for the advice guys. You know the guy she is seeing wouldn't bother me so much but he used to be a good friend. Had it been someone I didn't know, it would have been easier. I just think that when a friend tries to come between you and your woman that is about as low as it comes.

By the way I don't sit up a midnight thinking about this. I work from 6pm to 6am.

[ikey]

don't mess with her or him. The harder you try to investigate and enact your revengfull scheme. the more you show her you are still wrapped around her finger. she's got you and she knows it. forget about her, many other women would and will treat you as you deserve. heart is broken, your a man get over it and work all you can to keep your mind off of this. soon when you least expect it, you'll meet the one that needs you.

good luck

[dcasper]

Take the high road. Even as tempting as revenge sounds.

Was marriage counseling an option in your situation? Because it is amazing how we think you heard what we said - and you didn't get the meaning AT ALL. Not even close. And that goes both ways. I'm planning on counciling for me and my husband and we not in trouble at all. But what I would like to see is us communicating better, so that it doesn't get to be a problem. He agrees too. But he's been through a divorce before and doesn't want to do that again of course.

Good luck to you. And you are probably right on the money with how you are acting towards her - nice - that will really mess with her mind more than anything! Remain friendly if at all possible. You'll probably have more in the end then if it gets nasty. Not only material possessions, but your sanity and dignity as well.

[lakeman1234]

Funny you should ask about counseling. She wanted us to go it it. We went to our first session last week. Bear in mind she had not told me she was moving out but I knew she was. I didn't say too much in the counseling office. The counselor kind of put more blame on some of her problems than mine. (Bear in mind I take responsibility for the problems that I have caused in the past, I'm not perfect either). Anyway after we left the counseling I asked her if she was going to move out and she said she hadn't made up her mind. I then proceeded to tell her I knew she had already rented a house and what town it was in. I figured it out partly from the emails but also from the phone records. Told her she left a trail of breadcrumbs anyone could follow. Anyway she asked me why I didn't say much in the counseling and I told her what did you want me to say that you are a liar, telling me what I want to hear and doing the opposite behind my back.

[The Penguin]

The absolute best revenge in this situation is to BE HAPPY grounded and unflappable AND MOVE ON get your self a new girlfriend and show that you just don't care about the ex.
By you moving on that alone will pizz her off more than anything else you could dream up. I gurranty it will get under her skin!

Also Ya better lawyer up NOW this is no Diy unless you want to end up living in a Van down by the river.

Suck it up mate and don't piss around with this relationship anymore its dead you need to bury it and go find new boobs to play with. The sooner you realise this the better for you

Lakeman suck it up get over it get a new girlfriend get a good lawyer on the double get a divorce.

[coolwhip]

Its not the guys fault, its your spouses. Cancel all your credit cards and close your bank accounts. File for divorce and get yourself a cookie kwan to take care of you. Dont get married again unless shes got tons of dough.

I hope there are no children involved.

Good luck and move forward not back.

[smokin68]

If you try to win her back or even show you care, you will become a permanent door-mat, or her personal roll of toilet paper. The best thing you can do is like others have said.....move on. No revenge,no beating someone up(he can have her), just be really HAPPY that you're now single. Now if you decide to go out, wear that wedding band.....proven chick magnet. good luck to you.

[tech_support007]

Beat her to the punch. When i was going through my divorce it was really hard. Her dicission not mine. I really loved my x but I guess there were some things going on that I didn't know about. What I did was right after I left I took her off my insurance both health and life. She called me one day and I told her that I didn't want a dragged out fight. She can have everything even the house. She told me that we can use the same Lawyer just to get the legal portion of the divorce faster. I told her sure, lets file together. The next day I had her served. According to a mutual friend she was devistated that I would pull anything like this. She called me tht day and said " I thought you wanted to be civil about this?" I told her, "my lawyer tells me that I should avoid contact with you." then hung up. When we met for our settlement my lawyer just ate het lawyer up. Anytime my lawyer said anything her lawyer just looked at his notes with a dazed and confused glance. Apparently he had no clue what he was doing. Well after everything was said and done she had to pay me a sheit load of money. That felt good. Luckly there were no children involved.

[aircooled53]

Sorry to here about your x-wife issue, but,here is a piece of advice from someone who has been married with about the same type of problem. Go to court house and file a document called notice of seperation, then I would suggest a trip to library to get documents, they are all there, to file for a divorce.I did this with my second wife and she didn't even show up for court date.After about three months she got letter stating that we were divorced..

I lived by myself for several years, dating and running wild on some weekends.But, finally I meet my partner for life and we have been together for 18 years..

Good Luck.

[spotts]

on the internet a couple of years ago? I'd be weighing the benifits/costs of having her gone to getting her back. Good luck Todd.

[hvacpope]

Lake, you need to find another girl ASAP, talk to friends and family ask them to set you up or put your name in one of those dating services like yahoo, the best cure for your problem is another vagina for sure.

[Mr Bill]

Look at how many views this thread has, is there a lot of guys here that are anticipating the misses to move out and are looking for future advise? :D

[simpleman]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by mrbillpro
Look at how many views this thread has, is there a lot of guys here that are anticipating the misses to move out and are looking for future advise? :D [/QUOTE

NO! Its just all the wolfs waiting to hear the final verdict before they go on the hunt.LOL.

[vlux]

my first wife wasa beast, I got laid off from good job, she had to work, I was working two jobs and going to school, long story short, helped her move out, shes been married 4 times not happy, me been married for 22 years to an angel, sometimes lifeworks out funny,LAKEMAN, youre doing the right thing, only regret I have is I didnt slap my first wife, but IM not into that kind of thing.

[hillbilly in tenn]

just cant help but remember my divorce from my first wife. we had a 6 month old son involved. she wanted to get one lawyer and the whole deal, well after she moved out and in with her boyfriend he told me one day that she was going to move back to her hometown and wanted him to move also. poor guy sunk a boat load in her fast but he was smart enough to get out quick. to make a long story short i got a good lawyer and we took her to the cleaners. i got the kid plus child support. i remarried a school teacher and while things have not always been smooth we are still together. she has been married 2 more times and had countless relationships with others. hang in there lake, man you will be better off without her.

[jrag]

The only advice to just move on and start all over again till you success with your life. Wish you the luck.

[Wild Leg]

Congratulations.

You got out alive.

[Ammonianite]

I agree with the Penguin's earlier post- start protecting your assets now and get the best lawyer you can find. I was a dupe for the old "Let's have a platonic divorce" line once myself. Soon, she obtained a very good attorney and blindsided me; cleaned my clock. You hate to play hardball, but sometimes you have to. And yes, I wanted her back also; but it was not to be and I ended up much better off over time without her (besides, how could you trust someone who has repeatedly slept around on you?).

[oroy54]

I guess then that she works for her money. When a woman gets around other divorced women they create this uphoria of the perfect world with out a man. When a woman can support herself, they don't need a man. Until they get in trouble. Dont beat your self up over this lake. Divorce talk really brings out the worst in us. If you do get back together, dont let her see this thread. Remember the story about the little boy walking down the road. He sees a snake. The snake says, I am tired, pick me up and carry me. The little boy said, "You are a snake, you will bite me!" The snake said, "No I wont". So the little boy picked up the snake. And it bit him. The little boy said to the snake, "You told me that you wouldn't bite me!" The snake said, "You knew what I was when you picked me up". In a relationship it is about who need who more. And the one that loves the least is in control. Roy

[tonys]

...it's like a bad-oprah show.

[The Penguin]

with any luck it will turn into jerry springer

[renaissanse man]

Originally posted by J3hall
All I have to say is......


















Lets go max out your credit card at the strip club
those lovely ladies make all your problems go away :) :p In this situation, I would have to agree.

[Diceman]

She is probably posting on another site about how messed up her hubby is.
I would bet you are both to blame.
Either way, move on and good luck.

[aserv]

If no kids are involved, just move on. They would be the only reason I can see to try and work things out.

[spotts]

CONVENTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[scrogdog]

Last year a friend of mine upgraded GirlFriend 14.1 to Wife 1.0 and found that it's a memory hog leaving very little system resources for other applications. He is only now noticing that Wife 1.0 also is spawning Child-Processes which are further consuming valuable resources.

No mention of this particular phenomena included in the product brochure or the documentation, though other users have informed him that this is to be expected due to the nature of the application.

Not only that, Wife 1.0 installs itself such that it is ALWAYS launched at system initialization where it can monitor all other system activity. He's finding that some applications such as PokerNight 10.3, BeerBash 2.5, and PubNight 7.0 are no longer able to run in the system at all, crashing the system when selected (even though they always worked fine before).

At installation, Wife 1.0 provides no option as to the installation of undesired Plug-Ins such as MotherInLaw 55.8 and BrotherInLaw Beta release. Also, system performance seems to diminish with each passing day.

Some features he'd like to see in the upcoming wife 2.0 :
---- A "Don't remind me again" button
---- Minimize button
---- Hibernation button
---- Laptop model
---- Separate on/off switch for speakers
---- An install shield feature that allows Wife 2.0 to be installed with the option to uninstall at anytime without the loss of other system resources.
---- An option to run the network driver in promiscuous mode which would allow the systems hardware probe feature.

I decided to avoid all of the headaches associated with Wife 1.0 by sticking with Girlfriend 2.0. Even here, however, I found many problems.

Apparently you cannot install Girlfriend 2.0 on top of Girlfriend 1.0. You must uninstall Girlfriend 1.0 first. Other users say this is a long standing bug which I should have been aware of.

Apparently the versions of Girlfriend have conflicts over shared use of the I/O port. You think they would have fixed such a stupid bug by now.

To make matters worse, The uninstall program for Girlfriend 1.0 doesn't work very well leaving undesirable traces of the application in the system.

Another thing that sucks all versions of Girlfriend continually popup little annoying messages about the advantages of upgrading to Wife 1.0 or 2.0

BUG WARNING

Wife 1.0 has an undocumented bug. If you try to install Mistress 1.1 before uninstalling Wife 1.0, Wife 1.0 will delete MSMoney files before doing the uninstall itself. Then Mistress 1.1 will refuse to install, claiming insufficient resources.

BUG WORK-AROUNDS

To avoid the above bug, try installing Mistress 1.1 on a different system and never run any file transfer applications such as Laplink 6.0.

Also, beware of similar shareware applications that have been known to carry viruses that may affect Wife 1.0.

Another solution would be to run Mistress 1.0 via a UseNet provider under an anonymous name. Here again, beware of the viruses which can accidentally be downloaded from the UseNet.

[MikeJ]

Originally posted by Diceman
She is probably posting on another site about how messed up her hubby is.
I would bet you are both to blame.
Either way, move on and good luck.



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[ikey]

THAT BETA VERSION MAY LEAVE A VIRUS, IF YOU TRY AND RE-INSTALL IT!!

[idontgetit]

Originally posted by idontgetit

Originally posted by lakeman1234
True but doesn't mean I can't think about it.

The best thing for you to think about is research on a good lawyer and moving on with life.

Why you would at any level consider renewing a relationship with a known liar is beyond reson.

Do you have to be nasty to her? No, but you should ask yourself why you want to associate with her at all.

I am going to stand by that and highly recomend you close your trap. discuss it ONLY with your lawyer, get out for a bit of relaxing (golf, skeet shhoting, boating hooters, whatever does it for you to "get away from it all") and then go on in life.

You are not perfect, neither is she, life certianly is not fair, nor are the courts and the more you say, the more you pay! Re;ax, write it off, move foprward and do not look back.

[bb]

Now you can change your name to Freedman :D

[hillbilly tech]

Man what a thread,I'm not to good at readen so i just scanned most of it,not a relationship expert but a good looking,nice,hardworking,good cooking,lawn mowen,sexy female friend, that would probably cause you to forget about all that has happen with your old lady and i bet you would never want to see her again,so start goen out find ya a nother,you'll forget about her sooner than ya think.

[greenm&m]

It will only be time before she will do the same to the one she is with now.

Move on and find another piece of ass.

She is not worth dwelling on.

Take it from a girls point of view.