lennox A/C units?

[sleeper]

First post, so here goes

i'm currently employed as a tradesmans assisitant for a company that does electrical and airconditioning work out here in Australia, and recently, our HVAC wholesaler suggested we try a "new" brand (to australia as far as i know) name Lennox, and he claimed that lennox were one of the big a/c manufacturers in the USA

75% of our HVAC work is installing/servicing residential airconditioning units, mostly split systems with an outside condensor and wall mounted evaporators

what my employer has asked me to find out, is lennox any good?

[jim baughman]

Lennox has been around for years and in the worldwide market. They are considered to be one of the top lines of equipment. They usually carry a good warranty. But there are many grades of units in every brand name line, some more reliable than others. You get what you pay for. Some people like one brand, others like another more....matter of opinion on which is best or better. Personal opinion, I have had great service from all the Lennox systems that I have sold so far....I like them. Over the long run of time, they out last the cheaper versions usually.

[croft1972]

Lennox has been around since 1895. here are 2 webs sites for them.

http://www.lennoxinternational.com

http://www/lennox.com

Weve been a dealer for them since 1985 and have had great luck with there units.

chris

[t527ed]

have sold lennox since 1981, have been very happy with them.

[sleeper]

what are they like compared to fujitsu and mistral?

[t527ed]

Originally posted by sleeper
what are they like compared to fujitsu and mistral?



don't know of any Lennox mini splits. could be something new they're trying out on you guys. units we use here are ducted central split systems or packaged equipment.

[udarrell]

Originally posted by t527ed

Originally posted by sleeper
what are they like compared to fujitsu and mistral?

don't know of any Lennox mini splits. could be something new they're trying out on you guys. units we use here are ducted central split systems or packaged equipment.

If you have an oil furnace consider mini-split systems.
Some have the rerigerant metering device at the condenser so the liquid line operates at a lower pressure, when it enters the evaporator it vaporizes & absorbs heat.

I like the idea of one condenser serving several evaporators to cool the entire residence. That would advoid some oil furnace's airflow problems.

The general airflow problem with many oil furnces:
http://www.udarrell.com/oil_furnace_heating.html
- udarrell

[wptski]

I have a Lennox heating/cooling system in my house that's 26 years old this month! The only thing replaced has been the contactor in the compressor unit.

[Tempted]

Lennox is a good product. As with any new product line traning is must even if it's only in house. Lennox has alot of products. Pick the equipment that will fit your market application. Obtain the installation manuals and READ them from cover to cover. make sure everyone is on the same page and understands. Oh did I mention READ the install manuals. You may have to make field modifictions to the units. Lennox is very good providing information.
They also stand behind thier warranties. Davenet is the dealers web site which has tons of information. Also Lennox makes Lennox, and they don't manufacturer under another name. Lennox int. does own another manufacturer that they bought, Armstrong. They are two different animals not the same.

[turtle]

Originally posted by sleeper
First post, so here goes

i'm currently employed as a tradesmans assisitant for a company that does electrical and airconditioning work out here in Australia, and recently, our HVAC wholesaler suggested we try a "new" brand (to australia as far as i know) name Lennox, and he claimed that lennox were one of the big a/c manufacturers in the USA

75% of our HVAC work is installing/servicing residential airconditioning units, mostly split systems with an outside condensor and wall mounted evaporators

what my employer has asked me to find out, is lennox any good?


This is Turtle.

I would say Lennox is about in the same boat as carrier, Rheem, trane, and others. They are nothing to get excited about and is just one of the boys.

Now to Parts - dealer price of parts as you being the dealer. Parts are high as a cat's back at dealer level. if a Trane or Carrier part cost say $10.00 , lennox cost will be close to $15.00. i think sometimes they want some of your mark up. if carrier wants $60.00 , Lennox wants $90.00. they keep their prices above everybody else.

Now Warranty parts : Most all Lennox dealer will stock their own parts for warranty is slow. If you have a warehouse real near you, you will be ok but make sure your whole saler keep a full array of parts for getting them from for it's from the Factory is 3 to 6 weeks to get something special. if your wholesaler will keep all part in stock , you will be ok. It they don't keep everything , look out. They make a lot of equipment that has special parts to use. So you can't use universial parts on them on a lot of electric parts. Now on a 16 seer heat pump , you will just about have to use a Lennox thermostat on it for they gear their electric systems & thermostat to use with their thermostat and not universial. It's hard to stick a universial thermostat on the Lennox 16 seer heat pump , but it can be done but with very little help from tech support. Tech support does not know they make thermostat not made by Lennox. They get Honeywell to make thermostats for them and nobody else and just have specialized parts for them and no one else. If Lennox stops making a honeywell/Lennox thermostat , there is no other like it made by honeywell, you know a knock off by honeywell. So use honeywell thermostats and not Lennox / honeywell thermostats. They have a lot privatized parts .

Now in describing them up. Privatized parts and poor parts supply if your wholesaler don't keep it. If your wholesaler keeps all parts, your good but if your warehouse does not stock all parts , you are 3 to 6 weeks away from them. Warranty is the same story.

TURTLE

[dave82323]

turtle I must say you know what you are saying, so true.....

[Tempted]

Every manufacturer has there share of Propietary equipment. And it usually involves a certain model of equipment and thermostat. Unless its a Rheem then your in your own world.
Lennox equipment is higher in cost. So is a Ferrari over a ugo. It takes money to build it better and when side by side another brand you can see and the difference

Wholesalers in our area don't stock Lennox. We recieve shipments twice a week. Lennox pays all shipping charges. If Lennox doesn't have a piece of eqipment in stock that they have promised to always stock. They upgrade at no additional charge. Warranty parts are next day delivery if it is something that is propietary. Otherwise contacters, capacitors and alike are available locally.

Your boss can go online 24/7 place orders, visit the dealer forums. Employees can take corses on industry related topics and other subjects as sales or safety.

Cost of a Honeywell Vision Pro thermosat $33 cheaper though Lennox. We pay less for flex duct than our local wholesalers.

I guess thats the difference between dealer and non dealers. You boss will know that though. No company is perfect and we all like to make money.

[subvet1975]

overall i think lennox is the best
i have heard statements to the effect
oh, they just make these units last until warranty runs out
as an engineer i want my design to be plugged in and last forever. i know my r&d friends at lennox feel the same way.
lennox manufactures almost no component parts other than cabinet pieces and the like. almost everything is purchased from other manufactures meeting strict and yes sometimes unique specifications. lennox does not manufacture wall thermostats, honeywell makes to their specifcations which includes putting the lennox name on them. yes you pay more for lennox stuff, but they provide way more support (much behind the scenes) than others. they provide a lot of adminstrative type support that contractors can take advantage of if they want

[Panama]

Isn't world trade wonderful! My neighborhood has a number of Australian Breezeair evaporative coolers. Best swamp cooler on the market!