low/side ??

[creativerepair]

what the heck is going on here, I use to be a HVAC tech mostly hang and bang tin. and did alot of the new installs in the new const I.E the A/C can do it all from start to finish but service work is not my biggie. so i bought a house last year when i was working for a HVAC co in MPLS and hooked up the central air, the conden unite was sitting in the garage cuz the house was moved and then i bought and hooked up the ac, well it worked real good last year . this year i had a leak from the high side schrader. so i used my tool to replace the core and well that tool was junk so ,i reclaimed,and replaced all the cores, I vac'ed it down for 1 hour left it sit over night and the gauge was the same . so i refilled today and my high side is not hot. no one around today to ask so thought i would try here. the unite is old ,it is a 1988 temp star high effic. when the unit it off i have 110 on low and 120 on high when it is running it is 70/250 if i remember right. when i pull the power and let it sit it then will start to let the juice roll and can feel the temp diff on the high side and the suction is kinda cold but not like it should. oh yeah and i was away from home for a while and the ol lady said the ac kept running andit was running day and night for a few weeks. what the heck is blocked? can the inline filter be blocked in one year time to prevent flow? it was installed last year 7/30/05 I washed out the the fins on outside unit with the acid wash,and last july the a-coil was cleaned very well cuz i had it out to do some tin work befor i hooked up a/c. do you think i am looking at a more sever problem, oh and when i hooked up last year the line set was taped but i still blew out water when i blew the line, but blew it dry .it is cooling to 60 in the vent.not sure what it is coming out the plenum the renter is not up yet to get to the furnace room. thanks

[corny]

troll

probably paul or bubba from alt.hvac....lol

or both because bubba has always got his hand in pauls back pocket....~:>

[creativerepair]

Originally posted by corny
troll

probably paul or bubba from alt.hvac....lol

or both because bubba has always got his hand in pauls back pocket....~:>
what you trying to be a dick ? like i said i was in hvac and service was not my thing i did service for one summer and did not dig it. I do not do work for my clients that involves hvac i do home repair. i do my own work cuz i can and have the tools i need. I do not like working on ac and furnaces enough to stay in the field that is why i work for my self doing other things

[jrgreene1968]

man i know what you mean...i know how to work on ac etc, but you ask a question and it seems its all top secret,,i am like you..i dont really like the hvac industry so i have worked in the oil field for 20 years ..if someone asks me a question, i try to help, unlike the hvac industry where all you get is, call a PRO or whatever...what are yall gonna do, when you retire and there is nobody to fill your shoes do to all the questions being answered with, call a PRO

[smokin68]

Time to call a service tech 'cause I have no idea what you're asking. There are alot of measurements that need to be taken.

[Mr Bill]

Originally posted by jrgreene1968
i try to help, unlike the hvac industry where all you get is, call a PRO or whatever...what are yall gonna do, when you retire and there is nobody to fill your shoes do to all the questions being answered with, call a PRO

We only do that here because if we gave a play by play to everyone someone would probably kill themselves and in cyber space we cannot possibly know how skilled you are, we are a bunch of good folks here and for you to come here and make a remark like that without knowing us is totally wrong and sure not a way to get any help.

[jrgreene1968]

didnt mean to come across wrong, i have just noticed that alot in the hvac industry in general..nothing against yall. I like reading yalls forums, never to old to learn something. I work on multi million dollar gas compressors, but i try to teach the young guys all i can. I was in a supply house just a few days ago picking up a lineset, and overheard a young guy asking a question to a tech, first thing he said, you need to call a pro.

[seatonheating]

Originally posted by jrgreene1968
didnt mean to come across wrong, i have just noticed that alot in the hvac industry in general..nothing against yall. I like reading yalls forums, never to old to learn something. I work on multi million dollar gas compressors, but i try to teach the young guys all i can. I was in a supply house just a few days ago picking up a lineset, and overheard a young guy asking a question to a tech, first thing he said, you need to call a pro.


Did you ever stop to think that the tech was trying to protect the young guy? If you understood what us "pros" actually know you would not be so condascending towards us.

Would you go on an MD website and see if you can perform your own appendectomy? Thought not, you would end up hurting yourself. Exactly why you would go to a pro (doctor).

[icyflame]

Did you ever stop to think that the tech was trying to protect the young guy? If you understood what us "pros" actually know you would not be so condascending towards us.

Would you go on an MD website and see if you can perform your own appendectomy? Thought not, you would end up hurting yourself. Exactly why you would go to a pro (doctor).

>>>Yah, I agree, we can help you understand what and maybe why somthing is happening but not how to perform certain procedure. We can help you choose between procedures. But we can't tell ya what to do, thats up to you! :D

[creativerepair]

Originally posted by jrgreene1968
man i know what you mean...i know how to work on ac etc, but you ask a question and it seems its all top secret,,i am like you..i dont really like the hvac industry so i have worked in the oil field for 20 years ..if someone asks me a question, i try to help, unlike the hvac industry where all you get is, call a PRO or whatever...what are yall gonna do, when you retire and there is nobody to fill your shoes do to all the questions being answered with, call a PRO
thats why i got out of it cuz it is top seceret i did fail to say i did not top it of cuz if i have to reclaim then i will be wasting my new freon

[creativerepair]

Originally posted by mrbillpro

Originally posted by jrgreene1968
i try to help, unlike the hvac industry where all you get is, call a PRO or whatever...what are yall gonna do, when you retire and there is nobody to fill your shoes do to all the questions being answered with, call a PRO

We only do that here because if we gave a play by play to everyone someone would probably kill themselves and in cyber space we cannot possibly know how skilled you are, we are a bunch of good folks here and for you to come here and make a remark like that without knowing us is totally wrong and sure not a way to get any help.
I understand where your coming from but i am not a pencial pusher trying to do the weekend repair i have been fixing all my life i am 36 and was in and out of hvac from 96 till last year but i am not goods at service i have a friend that was in it for 30 + years but thinks it is a reed in somthing or nother or thinks that i have an odstruction in the a port or somthing like that

[ARPA]

creativerepair:

You need to read these:
http://WWW.clicksmilies.Com/s0105/sauer/angry-smiley-014.gifForum Rules (http://hvac-talk.Com/vbb/showthread.php?threadid=1241)

Because you have broken 2 rules of posting on this site.
1. this is not a DIY forum
2. No name calling

Either one of the offenses above can get you banned.

[tinner73]

you're installing a 18 year old unit??? why?

maybe that's all she's got. $hit can it. you wouldn't install a 18 year old faucet would you? an 18 year old engine. why would you waste your energy?

[creativerepair]

Originally posted by seatonheating

Originally posted by jrgreene1968
didnt mean to come across wrong, i have just noticed that alot in the hvac industry in general..nothing against yall. I like reading yalls forums, never to old to learn something. I work on multi million dollar gas compressors, but i try to teach the young guys all i can. I was in a supply house just a few days ago picking up a lineset, and overheard a young guy asking a question to a tech, first thing he said, you need to call a pro.


Did you ever stop to think that the tech was trying to protect the young guy? If you understood what us "pros" actually know you would not be so condascending towards us.

Would you go on an MD website and see if you can perform your own appendectomy? Thought not, you would end up hurting yourself. Exactly why you would go to a pro (doctor).
wtfe sound like the cable field you cant do that less you been doing it for ever i ll wait till i can get real answers from real techs come monday not someone that think there **** dont stink.and there the only one that can do it.I guess i should sell my stuff and close my account and tell them to shut my reffer licence down and dont let me buy no more cuz i am not a lifer like ya all. guess i have that all button up for now so i will go start the head gaskets on the sisters van less you all think i should be ASAE cert to do it ..guess i best not do no more propane and nat gas work i have not worked for the gas company and it was somthing i picked up in the HVAC industry when gastite came out so might not know how to do that dont want to hurt myself either..... thank for the help i did not get

[ARPA]

Good bye:

Thank you for reading the site rules.

[corny]

When the original poster posted about blowing the water out of the refrigerant tubing I instantly thought "troll"

Only someone joking around or someone truly ignorant of refrigeration practices would do what the OP did.

The OP posted like he was in the biz or had been in the biz... just something about his post didnt click right and then I saw the water comment... sorry I made a rush to judgement but that blowing the water out of the lineset at the end of the post just screamed...IM JERKING YOUR CHAIN.

anyhow.... ~:>

[davo]

creativerepair:

Please, Please, Please, do not do any gas work.

I am happy to inform homeowners and handymen on things they can do themselves, according to their apparent abilities.
(repair duct, clean coils, filters,)

I have seen the best handymen innocently help people out by putting a/c vents in the garage at the request of homeowners (against code).
Six months later, the homeowner's teenage daughter was dead from carbon monoxide poisoning while detailing her car in the garage. She closed the garage door to allow the garage to cool while she waxed the car inside. Not thinking, she started the car to play te stereo.

A trained proffessional is not only taught how to do something, they know why to do it, and what will happen if it is not done right.
I have spent my life teaching HVACR proffessionals new and experienced, and have ran service for over 25 years.
This is not a part time occupation.

My honest and sincere advice to you is call a pro. You have not even given us anything intelligable to work with, but yet you insult us.

[corny]

Im actually against the policy of this forum to not help homeowners.... I would give them as much help as possible based on their knowledge and experience....but I wont do it because I dont want to be kicked off the forum...

I think the main reason people dont want to give out info on here is that they dont want the HO to be able to do anything himself....its not about liability...liability is BS...People are more dangerous working on their own auto brake systems....lol

anyhow....the site has rules...which I will follow....
this guy..creative...apparently knew what he was talking about but like I said earlier...he appeared to be someone on here pulling a joke....

I mean seriously....he said he blew the water out of the lineset till it was dry....man... that just screamed practical joke post... I dont see how the system is even running....

[the editor]

Originally posted by corny
Im actually against the policy of this forum to not help homeowners.... I would give them as much help as possible based on their knowledge and experience....but I wont do it because I dont want to be kicked off the forum...

I think the main reason people dont want to give out info on here is that they dont want the HO to be able to do anything himself....its not about liability...liability is BS...People are more dangerous working on their own auto brake systems....lol

anyhow....the site has rules...which I will follow....
this guy..creative...apparently knew what he was talking about but like I said earlier...he appeared to be someone on here pulling a joke....

I mean seriously....he said he blew the water out of the lineset till it was dry....man... that just screamed practical joke post... I dont see how the system is even running....




Corny --

Thanks for your honesty. You are right -- the site has rules and I certainly appreciate what you said about the need to follow them.

About the WHY we have this rule. As the new owner of the site, I inherited it. I too like having homeowners coming to this site to seek advice and ask questions. However, there are liabilities associated with giving out advice and the legal eagles here at Penton certainly do not want us to get embroiled in any type of activity that could get us sued.

Furthmore, I personally don't like the idea of members putting themselves on the line with people they don't know who could very well kill themselves doing something stupid based on what they thought they read or learned here.

And of course, I believe that a lot of the folks who are regulars here don't want homeowners doing things by themselves because it takes business away from them.

I certainly respect that as well. But the first two items I mentioned trump the third and that is why I totally support the idea of keeping DIYs in line.

I hope that everyone understands this position and , like you, can support it.

Thanks again.

-- The Ed

[Mr Bill]

Originally posted by the editor

Furthmore, I personally don't like the idea of members putting themselves on the line with people they don't know who could very well kill themselves doing something stupid based on what they thought they read or learned here.
The Ed

Well said! and yes we do cut up here and we do give some Home Owners a hard time, but most all the a/c guys or gals I have ever meet in my 30 years have a good heart when it comes right down to it, and I firmly believe this is our main concern we don't want to wear the responsibility of someone getting injured or killed.

As for as a Home Owner taking business away from me I have "never" in my life been concerned about this, how do you think the auto mechanic might feel the DIY'er can just drop into Auto Zone and buy parts to repair there car and I don't hear auto mechanics crying about this, at least most of our supply houses try to protect HO from getting killed and help us out by not selling to the public.

I think the rules here have work entirely and I don't think you could re-write them any better, the rules are not the problem it's the Home Owners that come in here that or either frugal, or for a better word tight A&& or just don't value there life, because if they sincerely wanted to learn this business they would buy some books and read them and if they don't even want to invest in a book or two to help them, all they are looking for is a quick fix to the immediate problem and as we all know quick fix can get someone killed just ask NASA they will verify that.

They HO's are the problem not the rules. We are Professionals and we have to act like a professional, go over to a Doctors forum and see if you can get a play by play on a heart bypass, My guess is you cannot.