top signs you're a Liberal freak

[wolfstrike]

15 You're outraged and wear ribbons when convicted murderers are put to death but have no problem with doctors killing thousands of babies for profit.

14 You believe the richest country in the world is underfunded , and has a disaster for an economy.

13 No matter what the media or the government say , you always know the REAL story.

12 You are the self proclaimed hero of the black race, to free them from oppression ...and believe they should do as their told and follow your party without question

11 your vision of a 'great new world' is legalizing drugs and prostitution

10 You believe criminals are always right , cops are always wrong

9 You tell people you're the campion of Constitutional rights but have a vision disorder when you get to the 2nd Amendment (assuming you've ever read the Bill of Rights)

8 You believe God's 10 Commandments for humanity to live in a better existance are the worst things you've ever heard ,and you're willing to dedicate your life to hide them from public view.

7 Your political strategy is simple , just point to the nearest Republican and yell "racist".

6 You believe NAMBLA and child molestation are protected by the Constitution.

5 Your big plan for foreign affairs is to give them everything we own , ...then maybe they'll like us.

4 With the exception of Hitler , you're always on the side of a murderous dictator.

3 You tell people there is no God , but at least 70% of you're political discussion is about him.


2 all of your ideas for politics involve a totalitarian government





1 You know your vision of government can work , because you saw it on Star Trek.

[oloenneker]

Originally posted by wolfstrike
15 You're outraged and wear ribbons when convicted murderers are put to death but have no problem with doctors killing thousands of babies for profit.

Is an embryo really a "baby"? Could this "baby" survive outside the woumb if removed? A small collection of cells in a stage of reproduction is not a "life" so I dont know why you call it a "baby"... Misguided at best.

14 You believe the richest country in the world is underfunded , and has a disaster for an economy.

Yep, there is an economic crisis happening right here at home, but very few are willing to see it for what it is. thank you for pointing out the disaster that it is.

13 No matter what the media or the government say , you always know the REAL story.

Thats a no brainer, because you believe anything that is presented by the corporate run media...I'll bet you still think that the Vietnam war was about "communism"?? Yep, thats what i thought.

12 You are the self proclaimed hero of the black race, to free them from oppression ...and believe they should do as their told and follow your party without question

WTF is that supposed to mean? Did you miss your last KKK meeting? Is your local Grand Wizard/Dragon getting a little loopy? I guess I dont understand this one...

11 your vision of a 'great new world' is legalizing drugs and prostitution

Sounds like you are confusing "liberalism" with "Libertarianism".. They are two different political ideals. Each has their own merits.

10 You believe criminals are always right , cops are always wrong

Huh? Hmmm. I have been a Liberal as long as I was able to concieve political thought. I have also been a reserve Police Officer since I was 21 years old... I dont see how the left agrees with criminals. As a matter of fact, the Left makes it possible for Police to have the funding they need to keep our streets safe. Something I have seen in the decline since the Neo-Cons seized power...

9 You tell people you're the campion of Constitutional rights but have a vision disorder when you get to the 2nd Amendment (assuming you've ever read the Bill of Rights)

Thats because some parts of the second amendment are a little antiquated, and need reform. Dont worry, you will still be able to bear arms, but it will be limited. There is no need for citizens to own machine guns. If you want to shoot machine guns, join the Military.

8 You believe God's 10 Commandments for humanity to live in a better existance are the worst things you've ever heard ,and you're willing to dedicate your life to hide them from public view.

What? Most Liberals are just as God Fearing as you. They just understand that a seperation of church and state is required to keep America wholesome. I guess you never read the important documents that shaped this country.

7 Your political strategy is simple , just point to the nearest Republican and yell "racist".

Now you are just getting irrational. Who does this? I have yet to hear that claim.

6 You believe NAMBLA and child molestation are protected by the Constitution.

Another irrational claim, but Ill entertain it. See, the case that NAMBLA made, is that it is not against the law to DISCUSS their desires for little boys, while acting on it is. So in the case of NAMBLA, they do have the right to DISCUSS the ideals of their perverted sexual turn ons, as long as they do not act on them, because then it becomes a crime. So as you see, child molestation is not protected by the constitution by any means, but the constitution protects them in the matter of free speach about the topic. I know its sickening, but that is how the law is written, and there are no exceptions to the law. Thats American for you.

5 Your big plan for foreign affairs is to give them everything we own , ...then maybe they'll like us.

How do you figure? Elaborate on this please

4 With the exception of Hitler , you're always on the side of a murderous dictator.

Like who? Milosevich? Chavez? Castro? Ill Jung? Please give an example of libs green carding a oppressive dictator....

3 You tell people there is no God , but at least 70% of you're political discussion is about him.

Only us athiest do that, and we are probably less than 20% (and thats probably a stretch) of what you would call "liberals"... The fact is, most Democrats who you would call liberals" are Christians, and alot of the are pretty Devout. So I dont know where you get that assesment from, but it is wrong.


2 all of your ideas for politics involve a totalitarian government

Wrong, thats what GW Bush wants for America, and we (the Libs) are trying to stop it before a real crisis of that becomes reality. Whats to stop GW from stopping the next election because we are at war? He could, if he employs the right set of circumstances. And you say the Libs want a "totalitarian" government... How wrong you are.



1 You know your vision of government can work , because you saw it on Star Trek.

You have to ask RoBoTeq about how Star Trek Govenments work, because I have no clue about what your psychotic mind is refrerring to..



Hope that helps... Probably wont, but there is nosense arguing with the dense...

[keither]

LIKE HE SAID, TOP SIGNS YOU'RE A LIBERAL FREAK. DONE.

[dirtyboy103us]

Originally posted by wolfstrike
15 You're outraged and wear ribbons when convicted murderers are put to death but have no problem with doctors killing thousands of babies for profit.

I do believe in abortion for some people and instances
just not for me, flat out "THEIR CHOICE" they have to live with it not me

murderers : quick trial and quick "painful" death or what way they cause the death of a person... IE: torture=torture

14 You believe the richest country in the world is underfunded , and has a disaster for an economy.

with our deficit we can't go on like this

13 No matter what the media or the government say , you always know the REAL story.

not really: have to take it all in and most with a grain of salt

12 You are the self proclaimed hero of the black race, to free them from oppression ...and believe they should do as their told and follow your party without question

nope: i didn't enslave their parents and neither did my parents and they have had just as much as i have had to start with because i grew up in the "jets" projects

11 your vision of a 'great new world' is legalizing drugs and prostitution

with out a doubt: you want to kill yourself with crack, heroin and or aids your choice you have had the education just like me, someday i might loose a love one to this disease but if i educated them and they made that choice
its all them, just like jumping off a bridge, we can't save you from yourself

10 You believe criminals are always right , cops are always wrong

nope: you and only you put yourself in those positions and you have to pay the price whatever that maybe

9 You tell people you're the champion of Constitutional rights but have a vision disorder when you get to the 2nd Amendment (assuming you've ever read the Bill of Rights)

nope: have as many and whatever type you want but in that same sentence be careful, you will be held responsible for the guns and who ever gets to them.....

8 You believe God's 10 Commandments for humanity to live in a better existence are the worst things you've ever heard ,and you're willing to dedicate your life to hide them from public view.

again nope: just give the Jews and people who practice witch craft, Muslims, Buddha's and any other religion the same space right on the side of the public building you hang the ten commandments to put up writings they hold near and dear to their hearts, we'll see how this works

7 Your political strategy is simple , just point to the nearest Republican and yell "racist".

you forgot crook: i should have wore a mask

6 You believe NAMBLA and child molestation are protected by the Constitution.

let the BEATINGS BEGIN can i have the first chunk out of these butt-wipes, even if they think it

5 Your big plan for foreign affairs is to give them everything we own , ...then maybe they'll like us.

could give a rats azz if you like me: just don't steal
from them



4 With the exception of Hitler , you're always on the side of a murderous dictator.

nope: he puts his pants on just like me one leg at a time
nobody is above the law....

3 You tell people there is no God , but at least 70% of you're political discussion is about him.

yes and nope : being married to a born again for 23+ years i stay away from that subject.. i have brains


2 all of your ideas for politics involve a totalitarian government

just nope on this one





1 You know your vision of government can work , because you saw it on Star Trek.

yes it can, just got to weed out the extremest on both sides, that grab on to one issue like abortion, gay marriage
the war or religion, which they base their whole vote on which ever side their on
got to look at the whole picture not just a little
i have not found one candidate that believes just like me just got to weigh all issue's and figure out who's the best choice... its work let me tell you they wave the red flags and scream about issues that people really believe in and then it clouds the whole picture then people vote on this one issues

got to find a common sense candidate and i do call myself a liberal

[johnl45]

Great Post Oloenneker! But you’re wasting your time on these right-wing nut cases.

[bootlen]

Top signs you're a Liberal Freak...


Originally posted by johnl45
Great Post Oloenneker! But you’re wasting your time on these right-wing nut cases.

[kim]

About 1/3 of that stuff applies to normal Democrats, 1/3 applies to extremeists on both sides, and the other third of blatent BS that only crazy people could support.

[skrewt]

You forgot one.

"You read an ac,braces or geer post and think...hey that makes sense"

[wolfstrike]

Is an embryo really a "baby"? Could this "baby" survive outside the woumb if removed? A small collection of cells in a stage of reproduction is not a "life" so I dont know why you call it a "baby"... Misguided at best.

if i take air conditioners right off the assembly line ,BEFORE they put the brand name on them, do i still have to pay? because they are not really air conditioners they are just collections of parts.




Yep, there is an economic crisis happening right here at home, but very few are willing to see it for what it is. thank you for pointing out the disaster that it is.


with liberals the glass is always 1% empty.

a recession is defined as no economic growth for 3 yearly quarters.

everyone is earning record profits as usual , the hard part is getting the rich to pay people.



the Left makes it possible for Police to have the funding they need to keep our streets safe.

evidence of #9

you are confusing greed with necessity.

police earn a pretty good wage and a decent pension for not being required by government to do REAL work and clean up the streets.

...and the police big shots who walk around giving orders are on easy street.



Thats because some parts of the second amendment are a little antiquated, and need reform. Dont worry, you will still be able to bear arms, but it will be limited. There is no need for citizens to own machine guns. If you want to shoot machine guns, join the Military.


proof of #2

it's going to take a very large totalitarian government to collect everyone machine guns, i don't agree with that idea.

the 2nd Amendment is not "antiquated" , the military was made up of the citizen , and therefor every form of weapon was legal , even cannons.


What? Most Liberals are just as God Fearing as you. They just understand that a seperation of church and state is required to keep America wholesome. I guess you never read the important documents that shaped this country.



there is no such thing as "seperation of church and State"

it is a description of an idea.

the original American government didn't want political rulings to be considered holy.
the king of England was also the head of the church.

the original American government had no authority to limit the citizen's religious beliefs.


(one of the first actions of the American government was to print bibles)



..7 Your political strategy is simple , just point to the nearest Republican and yell "racist"....

Now you are just getting irrational. Who does this? I have yet to hear that claim.




since the Neo-Cons seized power



you do.

the term "neo-Con" is meant to imply Neo - Nazi




NAMBLA
they do have the right to DISCUSS the ideals of their perverted sexual turn ons,



yeah right.

go tell the writers of the Constitution, the people who gave you your freedom, about your views of child molesters organizing to voice their freedom of speech,



you would be hanging from the nearest tree.






..2 all of your ideas for politics involve a totalitarian government..

Wrong, thats what GW Bush wants for America, and we (the Libs) are trying to stop it




you CAN'T be a protector of the Constitution because you don't understand it , and never studied it.

the ideas you have for government are foreign to America and match Communist or Marxist strategy.

[acmanko]

Originally posted by skrewt
You forgot one.

"You read an ac,braces or geer post and think...hey that makes sense" Now thats brillant.

[oloenneker]

Originally posted by wolfstrike

Is an embryo really a "baby"? Could this "baby" survive outside the woumb if removed? A small collection of cells in a stage of reproduction is not a "life" so I dont know why you call it a "baby"... Misguided at best.

if i take air conditioners right off the assembly line ,BEFORE they put the brand name on them, do i still have to pay? because they are not really air conditioners they are just collections of parts.

I guess you still are having trouble understanding my post. Let me simplify it for you. If you had a box with a compressor in it but no coils, wiring, or electrical parts, would you call that an Air-Conditioner? NO. One off the assembly line without a brand label, but otherwise completed would still be an Air Conditioner. Its the same way with an embryo. Its just a collection of reproducing cells. A zygote, or fetus is something completely different from an embryo. Where you not paying attaention in high school biology?



Yep, there is an economic crisis happening right here at home, but very few are willing to see it for what it is. thank you for pointing out the disaster that it is.


with liberals the glass is always 1% empty.

a recession is defined as no economic growth for 3 yearly quarters.

everyone is earning record profits as usual , the hard part is getting the rich to pay people.

Exactly!! The rich keep on getting richer, while the poor keep on getting poor. Or have their jobs outsourced to Asia, or to illegal immigrants. Oh yeah, I think that rich need another tax cut, while our defecit grow larger and larger every day... Good economics? I think not.



the Left makes it possible for Police to have the funding they need to keep our streets safe.

evidence of #9

you are confusing greed with necessity.

police earn a pretty good wage and a decent pension for not being required by government to do REAL work and clean up the streets.

...and the police big shots who walk around giving orders are on easy street.

So you think that being a Police officer is easy work? when was the last time you had to patrol a beat in a metropolitan city? Especially when their departments are underfunded, and cannot hire enough people?
What would you do to clean up the streets? Martial Law?


Thats because some parts of the second amendment are a little antiquated, and need reform. Dont worry, you will still be able to bear arms, but it will be limited. There is no need for citizens to own machine guns. If you want to shoot machine guns, join the Military.


proof of #2

it's going to take a very large totalitarian government to collect everyone machine guns, i don't agree with that idea.

the 2nd Amendment is not "antiquated" , the military was made up of the citizen , and therefor every form of weapon was legal , even cannons.

Where can you buy a cannon? Perhaps a howitzer? I dont think that that is the idea of the second amendment. Antiquated? Why, of course it is. If you want to keep it to the letter, you should only be able to own a musket.
You can still have a citizen military, without everone owning guns. Just arm the soldiers and their reserve counterparts. Japan is a good example of a society without guns.


What? Most Liberals are just as God Fearing as you. They just understand that a seperation of church and state is required to keep America wholesome. I guess you never read the important documents that shaped this country.



there is no such thing as "seperation of church and State"

it is a description of an idea.

the original American government didn't want political rulings to be considered holy.
the king of England was also the head of the church.

the original American government had no authority to limit the citizen's religious beliefs.


(one of the first actions of the American government was to print bibles)

How is keeping Christian symbolisms out of government settings a limit of "religious belief"? How would you like it if your city hall had a mosque in it?
How about a giant minorah in front of the library during December? Yeah, I'll bet that would change your tune.



..7 Your political strategy is simple , just point to the nearest Republican and yell "racist"....

Now you are just getting irrational. Who does this? I have yet to hear that claim.




since the Neo-Cons seized power




you do.

the term "neo-Con" is meant to imply Neo - Nazi

You are confused here. Neo-Con has no double meaning. It is a political ideal and has nothing to do with "Neo-Nazi". It is a shortening of the term Neo-Conservative. Neo is another word for "new",and is used extensively in the english language to describe "new" things.
Now you do make an interesting comparison, because the Neo-Con ideals are very similar to National Socialist ideals, and Fascist ideals, But I fail to see a connection with anything rascist about them.
Do a little research on the subject... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-conservative



NAMBLA
they do have the right to DISCUSS the ideals of their perverted sexual turn ons,



yeah right.

go tell the writers of the Constitution, the people who gave you your freedom, about your views of child molesters organizing to voice their freedom of speech,
you would be hanging from the nearest tree.




I guess you flunked civics class as well as biology, huh? Freedom of speech should never be infringed, even when it is something we dont like. I am in no way condoing child molesters, and I think that they are mentally ill. But if we allow the government to censor any segment of free speech, we might as well not have free speech. And yes I do believe that was the intent of the founding fathers.



..2 all of your ideas for politics involve a totalitarian government..

Wrong, thats what GW Bush wants for America, and we (the Libs) are trying to stop it




you CAN'T be a protector of the Constitution because you don't understand it , and never studied it.

the ideas you have for government are foreign to America and match Communist or Marxist strategy.

Some of that may ring slightly true for the extreme left wingers out there. But in reality, we are striving for a progressive government, that is humanitarian in domestic policy, and with foreign policy as well. Progressive government is based in Liberal political thought, whcih coincedentally was also the political scope which the American Constitution was written.
Sounds like you really have no clue on the constitution, when you cannot even understand the first ammendment of the document. So how are you the great protector of a document and ideals, when you are iliterate to what it actually stands for.


[/B]

[Edited by oloenneker on 07-30-2006 at 06:22 AM]

[acmanko]

most right leaning people have a problem with comprehension, they read ok, they just don't fully understand what they read.

[renaissanse man]

Originally posted by oloenneker

Originally posted by wolfstrike

Is an embryo really a "baby"? Could this "baby" survive outside the woumb if removed? A small collection of cells in a stage of reproduction is not a "life" so I dont know why you call it a "baby"... Misguided at best.

if i take air conditioners right off the assembly line ,BEFORE they put the brand name on them, do i still have to pay? because they are not really air conditioners they are just collections of parts.

I guess you still are having trouble understanding my post. Let me simplify it for you. If you had a box with a compressor in it but no coils, wiring, or electrical parts, would you call that an Air-Conditioner? NO. One off the assembly line without a brand label, but otherwise completed would still be an Air Conditioner. Its the same way with an embryo. Its just a collection of reproducing cells. A zygote, or fetus is something completely different from an embryo. Where you not paying attaention in high school biology?



Yep, there is an economic crisis happening right here at home, but very few are willing to see it for what it is. thank you for pointing out the disaster that it is.


with liberals the glass is always 1% empty.

a recession is defined as no economic growth for 3 yearly quarters.

everyone is earning record profits as usual , the hard part is getting the rich to pay people.

Exactly!! The rich keep on getting richer, while the poor keep on getting poor. Or have their jobs outsourced to Asia, or to illegal immigrants. Oh yeah, I think that rich need another tax cut, while our defecit grow larger and larger every day... Good economics? I think not.



the Left makes it possible for Police to have the funding they need to keep our streets safe.

evidence of #9

you are confusing greed with necessity.

police earn a pretty good wage and a decent pension for not being required by government to do REAL work and clean up the streets.

...and the police big shots who walk around giving orders are on easy street.

So you think that being a Police officer is easy work? when was the last time you had to patrol a beat in a metropolitan city? Especially when their departments are underfunded, and cannot hire enough people?
What would you do to clean up the streets? Martial Law?


Thats because some parts of the second amendment are a little antiquated, and need reform. Dont worry, you will still be able to bear arms, but it will be limited. There is no need for citizens to own machine guns. If you want to shoot machine guns, join the Military.


proof of #2

it's going to take a very large totalitarian government to collect everyone machine guns, i don't agree with that idea.

the 2nd Amendment is not "antiquated" , the military was made up of the citizen , and therefor every form of weapon was legal , even cannons.

Where can you buy a cannon? Perhaps a howitzer? I dont think that that is the idea of the second amendment. Antiquated? Why, of course it is. If you want to keep it to the letter, you should only be able to own a musket.
You can still have a citizen military, without everone owning guns. Just arm the soldiers and their reserve counterparts. Japan is a good example of a society without guns.


What? Most Liberals are just as God Fearing as you. They just understand that a seperation of church and state is required to keep America wholesome. I guess you never read the important documents that shaped this country.



there is no such thing as "seperation of church and State"

it is a description of an idea.

the original American government didn't want political rulings to be considered holy.
the king of England was also the head of the church.

the original American government had no authority to limit the citizen's religious beliefs.


(one of the first actions of the American government was to print bibles)

How is keeping Christian symbolisms out of government settings a limit of "religious belief"? How would you like it if your city hall had a mosque in it?
How about a giant minorah in front of the library during December? Yeah, I'll bet that would change your tune.



..7 Your political strategy is simple , just point to the nearest Republican and yell "racist"....

Now you are just getting irrational. Who does this? I have yet to hear that claim.




since the Neo-Cons seized power




you do.

the term "neo-Con" is meant to imply Neo - Nazi

You are confused here. Neo-Con has no double meaning. It is a political ideal and has nothing to do with "Neo-Nazi". It is a shortening of the term Neo-Conservative. Neo is another word for "new",and is used extensively in the english language to describe "new" things.
Now you do make an interesting comparison, because the Neo-Con ideals are very similar to National Socialist ideals, and Fascist ideals, But I fail to see a connection with anything rascist about them.



NAMBLA
they do have the right to DISCUSS the ideals of their perverted sexual turn ons,



yeah right.

go tell the writers of the Constitution, the people who gave you your freedom, about your views of child molesters organizing to voice their freedom of speech,
you would be hanging from the nearest tree.




I guess you flunked civics class as well as biology, huh? Freedom of speech should never be infringed, even when it is something we dont like. I am in no way condoing child molesters, and I think that they are mentally ill. But if we allow the government to censor any segment of free speech, we might as well not have free speech. And yes I do believe that was the intent of the founding fathers.



..2 all of your ideas for politics involve a totalitarian government..

Wrong, thats what GW Bush wants for America, and we (the Libs) are trying to stop it




you CAN'T be a protector of the Constitution because you don't understand it , and never studied it.

the ideas you have for government are foreign to America and match Communist or Marxist strategy.

Some of that may ring slightly true for the extreme left wingers out there. But in reality, we are striving for a progressive government, that is humanitarian in domestic policy, and with foreign policy as well. Progressive government is based in Liberal political thought, whcih coincedentally was also the political scope which the American Constitution was written.
Sounds like you really have no clue on the constitution, when you cannot even understand the first ammendment of the document. So how are you the great protector of a document and ideals, when you are iliterate to what it actually stands for.


An abortion stops a human from being born. A human that would have been born if he/she had been left alone to develope and have a chance however good or bad
at life. Life. What we all take for granted every day is being taken away from the most innocent of all humans in the world.Abortion isn't a religious issue, it is a human rights issue.When a life is set in motion by two willing adults actions, that life has a right to life.
[Edited by oloenneker on 07-29-2006 at 09:22 PM] [/B]

[oloenneker]

An abortion stops a human from being born. A human that would have been born if he/she had been left alone to develope and have a chance however good or bad
at life. Life. What we all take for granted every day is being taken away from the most innocent of all humans in the world.Abortion isn't a religious issue, it is a human rights issue.When a life is set in motion by two willing adults actions, that life has a right to life.

Thats not what the supreme court decided in 1973.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roe_v._Wade

I dont understand you righties logic sometimes. I guess you feel that it is perfectly fine to bomb the crap out of countries, killing millions of innocent people. But then turn around and claim that a clump of cells are "Precious human life" and should under no circumstances be terminated for any reason, period?

Whoa, thats a little whack.



[Edited by oloenneker on 07-30-2006 at 02:03 AM]

[oloenneker]

Originally posted by johnl45
Great Post Oloenneker! But you’re wasting your time on these right-wing nut cases.

Thank you, and yes I know it's like banging my head against a brick wall sometimes, debating theese people. But, I have to admit, It is amusing for me. Sort of like shooting fish in a barrel. Especially when the Rednecks come out of the woodwork... Skewed views and all..

[RoBoTeq]

I for one appreciate liberal political viewpoints. How else would I gauge that my ideas are so "right"?

[oloenneker]

Originally posted by RoBoTeq
I for one appreciate liberal political viewpoints. How else would I gauge that my ideas are so "right"?

Well Robo, Apples and Oranges, they all taste nice, but some people preferr Apples to Oranges...It all depends on your "taste"...

Right or Left...How would your extensive Star Trek knowledge interject into this political argument?

And I suppose that your ideal of "right" is only in a metaphorical sense. Merely a political stance, and not a matter of "rightiousness"...

[acmanko]

no way Robo and his ilk are the only ones god cares about today.

[skrewt]

Originally posted by oloenneker


An abortion stops a human from being born. A human that would have been born if he/she had been left alone to develope and have a chance however good or bad
at life. Life. What we all take for granted every day is being taken away from the most innocent of all humans in the world.Abortion isn't a religious issue, it is a human rights issue.When a life is set in motion by two willing adults actions, that life has a right to life.

Thats not what the supreme court decided in 1973.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roe_v._Wade

I dont understand you righties logic sometimes. I guess you feel that it is perfectly fine to bomb the crap out of countries, killing millions of innocent people. But then turn around and claim that a clump of cells are "Precious human life" and should under no circumstances be terminated for any reason, period?

Whoa, thats a little whack.



[Edited by oloenneker on 07-30-2006 at 02:03 AM]

Seems to me you have it backwards.
I don't see how you lefties can have sympathy for murderers and tyrants yet care nothing for the most innocent and helpless among us...the unborn.

Just because a court ruled it, doesn't make it true.
I don't know what the abortion rules state in New York anymore, but it used to be you could get an abortion up to the third trimester.
There were babies being born and surviving late into the second trimester. The whole not viable argument is just BS.
What happens when doctors develop a method for test tube babies.
Then every embryo would be viable. Would you then consider abortion wrong?
I doubt it, because abortion has never been about personal choice. It has always been about irresponsibility without consequence.

The only time an abortion should be allowed is when the life of the mother is at risk. At that time it's a medical decision. Every other time it's a convenience decision.

[acmanko]

why do you concern yourself so much with the fetus growing into a child, but care so little about the child after its born?

[acmanko]

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=RNWE,RNWE:2004-49,RNWE:en&q=starving+children

[oloenneker]

Just because a court ruled it, doesn't make it true.

Maybe so, but it does make it law, And that is the foundation of all that is truely American.



What happens when doctors develop a method for test tube babies.

Where do you live? In the 1960's? They have already developed this technology now for quite some time... Ever heard of invitro fertilization?



he only time an abortion should be allowed is when the life of the mother is at risk. At that time it's a medical decision. Every other time it's a convenience decision.


Sure, it's such a convenince to carry a rapist's child to term, or better yet, something you might be able to relate to: a baby born into incest? Or is that a Medical decesion?

Another question, who is going to take care of these "unwanted" babies that are carried to full term? Welfare? Public assistance? I guess your family is more than willing to become foster parents, or perhaps adoptees of these children?

It's also nearly comical that you same people that resist the "right" to abortion, also resist "sex education" and "condoms for teens"... Hmm.. What a hypocricy that is at best. You are probably the same morons that tell teens that you can get AIDS from putting on a condom... Holy crap, are you trying to put America back into the stone age?

That type of behaviour is simply un-American.

If you dont like the fact that abortion is legal in the USA, then, it is time for you to leave. "Love it or leave it" as you always champion! Removing personal freedoms, protected by the Constitution? how un-American of you!? I thought we where the most "free" country in the world"?

Yeah, and you morons consider yourselves the "protectors of the Constitution"?!??! What a farse.

[Edited by oloenneker on 07-31-2006 at 06:43 AM]

[oloenneker]

We are going off topic again... The topic is the ten reasons I am a Liberal freak... NOT about abortion or Roe V Wade.... If you want to discuss that nonsense, start another thread.


That means you too Skrewt...

[acmanko]

why everyone knows you are a liberal freak when you don't conform to fundemental convictions spelled out in the Good Book.

[oloenneker]

Originally posted by acmanko
why everyone knows you are a liberal freak when you don't conform to fundemental convictions spelled out in the Good Book.


Hmm the "good book" .....I guess, I missed all it's factual discussions while I was "busy" studying Lamarck in my biology classes...



What a fool I must be?

[tonys]

Originally posted by acmanko
why do you concern yourself so much with the fetus growing into a child, but care so little about the child after its born?

good point.


why don't the Christian Fundies get all postal on issues such as the subject of child poverty in the US and babies born with HIV in Africa???

On the list of Human Priorities, isn't it MORE important to make sure a child that is actually born into this world becomes a healthy, productive, tax paying adult?

versus...this hard-on they have protesting outside abortion clinics, trying to prevent these losers from 'doing the right thing' and avoid bringing ANOTHER Crack-Baby into this MoFo world.

[Edited by tonys on 07-31-2006 at 08:27 AM]

[oloenneker]

Originally posted by tonys

Originally posted by acmanko
why do you concern yourself so much with the fetus growing into a child, but care so little about the child after its born?

good point.


why don't the Christian Fundies get all postal on issues such as the subject of child poverty in the US and babies born with HIV in Africa???

On the list of Human Priorities, isn't it MORE important to make sure a child that is actually born into this world becomes a healthy, productive, tax paying adult?

versus...this hard-on they have protesting outside abortion clinics, trying to prevent these losers from 'doing the right thing' and avoiding bring ANOTHER Crack-Baby into this MoFo world.

I dont know.

This is where these people loose me.

I dont get it either...

[dirtyboy103us]

why don't the Christian Fundies get all postal on issues such as the subject of child poverty in the US and babies born with HIV in Africa???

On the list of Human Priorities, isn't it MORE important to make sure a child that is actually born into this world becomes a healthy, productive, tax paying adult?

versus...this hard-on they have protesting outside abortion clinics, trying to prevent these losers from 'doing the right thing' and avoid bringing ANOTHER Crack-Baby into this MoFo world.

[Edited by tonys on 07-31-2006 at 08:27 AM] [/B][/QUOTE]


tony i believe you make a huge point here and your replys to such will be xxxxx none xxxxxxxx lets watchem run for the hills

[acmanko]

they are just a bunch of backsliding wannabe fundalmentalists, if they were strong in their beliefs they would come back out to play. Childish as they are , they take the ball and go home.

[skrewt]

Originally posted by dirtyboy103us

why don't the Christian Fundies get all postal on issues such as the subject of child poverty in the US and babies born with HIV in Africa???

On the list of Human Priorities, isn't it MORE important to make sure a child that is actually born into this world becomes a healthy, productive, tax paying adult?

versus...this hard-on they have protesting outside abortion clinics, trying to prevent these losers from 'doing the right thing' and avoid bringing ANOTHER Crack-Baby into this MoFo world.

[Edited by tonys on 07-31-2006 at 08:27 AM]


tony i believe you make a huge point here and your replys to such will be xxxxx none xxxxxxxx lets watchem run for the hills [/B][/QUOTE]

If we're going to do abortion we should do it right,
Start with registered democrats.
After all, they really aren't viable human beings.

[sline-dawg]

That was almost humorous.....Keep trying screwedinthehead.

[geerair]

Originally posted by sline-dawg
That was almost humorous.....Keep trying screwedinthehead. :D :D :D :D

[renaissanse man]

Liberals have a superiority complex. They believe they know which humans have a right to life and which don't.

[renaissanse man]

Sliney -d, that was brilliant.












Really.

[wolfstrike]

dirtyboy103us
so what am i in your view



i think you're a person ,that within the next 10 years, is going to realize how much damage these Liberal children are doing to society,

(as if the last thirty years hasn't been a large enough indicator)

...and you're going to have to make some life decisions.

[oloenneker]

Originally posted by wolfstrike


dirtyboy103us
so what am i in your view



i think you're a person ,that within the next 10 years, is going to realize how much damage these Liberal children are doing to society,

(as if the last thirty years hasn't been a large enough indicator)

...and you're going to have to make some life decisions.


Right, because you are so much better off then, than you are now???? You have to remember, some of us "kids" where born in the 70's and we do not have the best of memories about the times... As I suggested, I suppose you where born in the 50's do you have an objective stance on 1950's politics? I'll bet your dad does? Buti will bet you'll have no clue.