Justice is sorely lacking...

[bootlen]

http://www.beaufortgazette.com/local_news/story/3570199p-3171889c.html

Sentence for the woman just came in...life. No other details at this time. If there was ever a call for the death penalty, this was it. Brett was beaten over a 40 hour period till he finally succumbed.

I met Brett in Nov. '95. He was a good guy, no enemies, never a harsh word to or about anybody. He had been to my home on many occasions and I had been to his. I gave him rides to many places as he was dependent on others for transportation although he would wheelchair or walk to most places if time and weather allowed. He was a part-time school teacher. He was friends with all he knew. It's a shame all could not be friends with him.

Rest in peace, Brett.

[RoBoTeq]

That is horrible. It is not right for those two to survive in this world. I cannot imagine any hope for those two. If rehabilitation were to truly make these two better persons, as better persons they would kill themselves for what they have done.

[tonys]

where are the PITA nuttys on this one?

...must be too busy looking after those poor chickens.

[r404a]

That really sucks, Bootlen. What was the motive behind that crime? What a couple of despicable P.O.S's. Sorry to hear that. I hope that they get theirs.


r404a

[acjourneyman]

This is why we need the death penalty like China has, your found guilty, sentenced to death, taken from the courtroom , put up against the wall and shot.Simple, quick and effective, especially for carrer criminals where rehabilitation never works.

[bootlen]

Originally posted by r404a
That really sucks, Bootlen. What was the motive behind that crime? What a couple of despicable P.O.S's. Sorry to hear that. I hope that they get theirs.


r404a

Presumably, money. But she pled insanity. Yeah...right...40 straight hours of it. Of course.

There is a huge outrage locally over the sentance. The judge has been vilified in newspaper blogs. Funny thing, he's the judge for the trial for the guy in this case. Likely will be a change of venue after the local outrage.

[renaissanse man]

I don't think any man has a right to take another man's life. If a man is sentenced to death and a man has to push a button or pull a trigger to kill the convicted man, he himself is guilty of murder. As long as the killer/ rapist/ molesterer is unable to inflict harm on anyone else, it satisfies me that justice has been served. It would surely be worse to live out the rest of your life in solitary confinement thanit would be to die at your conviction.All I know is that if I was the man who had to push the button, or pull the trigger knowing what Jesus said, I would never be able to sleep again.

[trane]

Originally posted by renaissanse man
I don't think any man has a right to take another man's life. If a man is sentenced to death and a man has to push a button or pull a trigger to kill the convicted man, he himself is guilty of murder. As long as the killer/ rapist/ molesterer is unable to inflict harm on anyone else, it satisfies me that justice has been served. It would surely be worse to live out the rest of your life in solitary confinement thanit would be to die at your conviction.All I know is that if I was the man who had to push the button, or pull the trigger knowing what Jesus said, I would never be able to sleep again.

Fine, then you can pay my share of their room and board.

[corny]

Originally posted by renaissanse man
I don't think any man has a right to take another man's life. If a man is sentenced to death and a man has to push a button or pull a trigger to kill the convicted man, he himself is guilty of murder. As long as the killer/ rapist/ molesterer is unable to inflict harm on anyone else, it satisfies me that justice has been served. It would surely be worse to live out the rest of your life in solitary confinement thanit would be to die at your conviction.All I know is that if I was the man who had to push the button, or pull the trigger knowing what Jesus said, I would never be able to sleep again.

well..what we could do is cut their arms and legs off and drop them in the middle of the ocean...or 20 miles or so offshore....then let god decide their fate.

Of course they might be floating a long time....god is just getting started punishing Israel for killing jesus....~:>

[bootlen]

Originally posted by renaissanse man
I don't think any man has a right to take another man's life. If a man is sentenced to death and a man has to push a button or pull a trigger to kill the convicted man, he himself is guilty of murder. As long as the killer/ rapist/ molesterer is unable to inflict harm on anyone else, it satisfies me that justice has been served. It would surely be worse to live out the rest of your life in solitary confinement thanit would be to die at your conviction.All I know is that if I was the man who had to push the button, or pull the trigger knowing what Jesus said, I would never be able to sleep again.

Then can you explain an alternative meaning of the word "sword" in Romans13:4?

[coolie]

There were two thieves cucified with the Son of God.
One of them was saved at the last minute.
But the Roman state gave no commuted sentence - unless you count breaking their legs so they'd die quicker.
THAT's JUSTICE!
The Lord of Glory put His divine imprimatur on capital punishment by suffering it himself.
I would harbor no anger or ill-will whatever should I win the lottery for the privilege of pulling the switch on these two killers.
Jesus believed Scripture, even the fulfilled prophecy of the babies murdered by Herod in Bethlehem when He was born.

[trane]

renaissanse man,
Life in prison may be a miserable way to spend the rest of your days but has nowhere near the same level of fear to future murders as a quick execution. I want the death penalty for two reasons, one to punish and the other to make people think about the possibility that they may be executed before they kill. If we ever decide to have a trial this week and the execution the next there would be a major drop in planned murders.

[oloenneker]

Thats sucks. I am sorry for your loss of someone you cared for Bootsie.

But as far as the death penalty, most states, require it to be only applicable for "first degree murder"... Your article did not adress the details of the crime, other than how he was murdered, so I could not make out what the circumstances where. I am sure that if indeed it was "first degree Murder" the procecuter would have gunned for the death penalty. The law is very specefic here, and the crime has to be within a set of circumstances. When I studied criminal law, we used to use an acronym. "CARR-BUM PET-POLY":


Conspiracy
Arson
Rape
Robbery
Burglary
Mayhem
Premeditated
Explosives
Torture
Poisoned
Lyiing in Wait

I dont know SC stautes, but for the most parts of the US, these circumstances make it "first degree murder" and thus are applicable for the death penalty. Unless it is "first degree murder" it is not applicable to the death penalty.

[bootlen]

Here ya go, ole. I think you can pick up most of what happened here. And check out her pic as she looks back at Brett's family after sentencing.

BYW, even her mom says in a blog that she made up the abuse she claimed that led to her light sentence.

Premeditated? Hmmm. Lemme see. Tortured the guy for over 40 hour period trying to kill 'im. Premeditated? D'ya think?

http://beaufortgazette.com/local_news/story/5985278p-5261433c.html

[trane]

Mercy, how does he figure? As soon as a bed becomes available, wonder who they will let go. What a joke.

[oloenneker]

Originally posted by bootlen
Here ya go, ole. I think you can pick up most of what happened here. And check out her pic as she looks back at Brett's family after sentencing.

BYW, even her mom says in a blog that she made up the abuse she claimed that led to her light sentence.

Premeditated? Hmmm. Lemme see. Tortured the guy for over 40 hour period trying to kill 'im. Premeditated? D'ya think?

http://beaufortgazette.com/local_news/story/5985278p-5261433c.html

Well, I was wondering about that. That does make it "torture"... So, why did the prosecution not aim for the "death sentence"?

I am not trying to argue with you on this one. I agree with you for once!! These people should get what they deserve. I was just pointing out the law. Jeez, dude?!??! Relax a little... I am not always out to get you! Well, most of the time, but I do have "principle"...

[oloenneker]

Sorry Boostie, But I just comprehended the link you posted. (yeah I know I am slow) but it still did not really give me more insight to the intentions of the crime. Sure, that woman had no remorse towards the crime, but that still does not prove legally that it is first degree murder. I suspect that the prosecution might have had the same problem, thus is why there is not a death sentence in her case.

[bootlen]

Originally posted by oloenneker
Sorry Boostie, But I just comprehended the link you posted. (yeah I know I am slow) but it still did not really give me more insight to the intentions of the crime. Sure, that woman had no remorse towards the crime, but that still does not prove legally that it is first degree murder. I suspect that the prosecution might have had the same problem, thus is why there is not a death sentence in her case.

Prosecutor was going for capital. Judge gave 'er life. Law allows for that. Why? I dunno.

Does not prove 1st degree? You cannot tell me that over the 40 hours she did not think what she was doing was wrong. Why did she hide it if she didn't think it was wrong? Why didn't she do it out in broad daylight on the courthouse steps if she didn't know it was wrong? Why didn't she tell Marlene that she killed Brett when she brought some of his belongings to her the day after his death if she didin't know it was wrong? If she knew it was wrong and took 40n hours to accomplish the deed...that's premeditated, friend.

Oh, she knew it was wrong. She knew she was committing 1st degree murder. She may not have been very bright but she is smarter than the judge. That or she prostituted for him at some point before this crime and he gave her the pass for fear of a squeal.

[renaissanse man]

Revenge is a dish best eaten cold...