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juststartin
04-29-2012, 06:42 PM
Had two different units with failed compressors in the past two weeks. One was Carries 48SS series RTU and the other was a Trane HP split system. Based upon the tests I ran the 48SS seemed to be a mechanical failure, very foamy oil, with a burnt smell to it, and the Trane, an electrical problem based upon the ohm values between the three terminals. My question is, as anyone taken the time to cut open the casing and try to find the exact component that failed? If so, what is the best way to open up unit, without destroying the evidence? I was thinking electric hacksaw. Any thoughts. Or I am just wasting my time?
CoolWine
04-29-2012, 07:17 PM
I've cut open a few with a 4.5" angle grinder with a thin metal blade. Just cut above the weld line. While it's kind of pointless it helps you understand them and how they failed.
carmon
04-29-2012, 07:53 PM
I thought the same thing and cut a couple open... its a mess thats hard to understand once you look inside.. analyzing oil may help. just pour it out...
54regcab
04-29-2012, 08:30 PM
Somebody on youtube has cut a few open and ran them.
chuckcrj
04-29-2012, 11:39 PM
I recently cut open a rotary. A small piece of metal on came loose and scarred up the inside of the rotor, causing it to lock up.
I take them apart if I have time, mostly out of curiosity. I usually have a good idea of how they failed before I cut them open. Low airflow, plugged coil, refrigerant restriction, etc.
skippedover
04-30-2012, 07:07 AM
Personally, I wouldn't classify a burn-out as a mechanical failure. To me, a burnout is human error. Never seen a burnout on a compressor that never saw moisture! A broken spring shorted to ground (suspected but never proven) or similar, broken valve, those to me are mechanical failures. Or an open in a winding (not common wire, of course) would be an electrical failure. JMO.
bunny
04-30-2012, 09:06 PM
It's a rarity to find a defective compressor motor. Most compressor motor burns are the ressult of some mechanical failure, whether it be flooding/slugging, dirty condensor resulting in high discharge/oil breakdown/high compression ratio/lack of lubrication, etc.
As to examining the compressor: Consider yourself a doctor who is looknig for the cause of death, and the only real evidence lies in the autopsy.
If you want to get an expert opinion, send it back to the compressor manufacturer.
Birmingham
04-30-2012, 10:02 PM
I take them apart if I have time, mostly out of curiosity. I usually have a good idea of how they failed before I cut them open. Low airflow, plugged coil, refrigerant restriction, etc.
I can almost always tell what killed the compressor after it is changed. Oil migration can be the worst one to fix.
19degree
05-04-2012, 10:45 PM
I've used a grinder before too just like to cut things open with it reversing valves are cool to open up too. Could have been a number of things that caused the burn out... Make sure to clean the lines out really good unless you enjoy changing out compressors as often as the filter! Have fun cutting that thing open
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