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batdude
03-31-2012, 08:43 PM
RUMORS OF RON PAUL CAMPAIGN DEMISE GREATLY EXAGGERATED

Thomas Mullen


WASHINGTON, March 31, 2012 – In their mad dash to create the long awaited general election narrative, media outlets have pronounced Ron Paul’s campaign dead.

They now speculate about what his supporters may do when he drops out. The Associated Press reports that Romney has over ten times the delegates that Ron Paul has secured. Reuters reports that Paul is far behind in Wisconsin and that his supporters have finally conceded that he can’t win the nomination.

None of this is true. Romney has not secured 568 delegates. Hundreds of those delegates won’t be determined until Republican state conventions, many of which haven’t happened yet.

As I’ve reported before, there is very credible evidence that Ron Paul will emerge from those conventions with the majority of delegates in many states. Texas, New York and California haven’t even held their primaries yet. Those three states alone control over four hundred delegates.

In many states, there is no cause-effect relationship between the popular vote and the delegates awarded to each candidate. Delegates are awarded via a completely separate process that doesn’t utilize the popular vote totals in any way. The purpose of the popular vote is to inform the eventual delegates of the preferences of voters in their states. That’s why many of those states allow Democrats and independents to vote. They want the delegates to know who those voters prefer. That tells them who has the best chance to win in the general election.

In most years, the media can get away with reporting on the nomination contest as they are now. They can assume that the candidates will receive roughly the same percentage of delegates from each state as the percentage they received in the popular vote. That isn’t accurate reporting, but it usually comes out in the wash, especially as far as the winner is concerned. However, there are many things different in this year’s race and there is a good chance that much of the media are going to look silly come August.

First, Mitt Romney is probably the weakest Republican “frontrunner” in several decades. Remember, Republicans weren’t exactly energized by John McCain and he soundly defeated Romney four years ago.

Romney’s campaign has been able to get supporters to take fifteen minutes to stop at a polling place and pull a lever, but it’s much more difficult to get them to participate in a delegate process that takes months to complete.

Ron Paul’s supporters are completely the opposite. While he has not pulled off a “beauty contest” win, his supporters are willing to walk through fire to see him become president. They have learned Robert’s Rules of Order, stayed behind after caucus popular votes, and taken over the delegations in many counties in caucus states.

The Iowa Republican Party has confirmed that Paul and Santorum are in a dead heat for the state’s delegates and that Paul may win the majority. That bears no resemblance to the popular vote in Iowa’s caucus, where Santorum narrowly defeated Romney and Paul came in third.

The devotion of Paul’s supporters isn’t only a factor in the caucus states. In those states where the popular vote does bind the delegates to the winner, there is still an important question. Who are those delegates? Do they truly support the winner of the primary vote? Or are they Paul supporters?

There is no reason to believe that Paul is not well represented among delegates in those states as well. Their delegates are obligated to vote for the winner of the primary during the first round of voting at the RNC. However, if no candidate gets 1,144 votes, even they are now unbound and can vote for any candidate on the second ballot.

If it becomes necessary, that vote could be very interesting.

The media started this election cycle by completely ignoring Ron Paul’s campaign. As his poll numbers rose and the crowds at his rallies grew into the thousands, they began giving him grudging respect. Now, they want to pronounce his campaign over and even go so far as to speak for his supporters.

There’s only one problem. Paul and his supporters aren’t going anywhere and this race is far from over. The Paul campaign’s senior advisor Doug Wead documents many examples of Ron Paul’s delegate strategy yielding much better results than the media are reporting. Assuming he’s right, Romney is unlikely to clinch the nomination during the first vote at the national convention. If he doesn’t, Paul’s understated army of delegates could mean big surprises in Tampa.

(Tom Mullen is the author of A Return to Common Sense: Reawakening Liberty in the Inhabitants of America.)

Damien
03-31-2012, 09:05 PM
Ron Paul 2012!

newoldtech
03-31-2012, 10:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzlG28B-R8Y

wolfstrike
03-31-2012, 10:19 PM
the media doesn't care about facts or possibilities.


they are doing everything in their power to make sure Romney gets the nomination to save this "heath care" bill.
every chance they get they are making it sound like Romney has been confirmed.

insurance companies are on the brink of making billions of dollars, and members of the media who will be heavily invested are trying to make it happen.


(BTW i already posted a thread about this. this is good info tho)

Slatts
04-01-2012, 05:14 AM
Nominate Romney because he won't kill it or because he'll never get the chance to?

E.G. his religion and background will render him unelectable?

or do you think he sees it as a good thing?

batdude
04-12-2012, 09:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hgsg7a-Ok8Q

Won't see this on TV !

(extra credit---find Batdude in the crowd @ U. of Missouri, March 15)

looks like Ron Paul will win Missouri.

clean sweep, 100% of delegates at the state's largest caucus in St. Charles on Tuesday, should put him over the top.

the powers of financial capitalism have another aim...THEIR candidates say, "Bernanke is doing a fine job."

tunnel_rat
04-12-2012, 09:24 PM
Sometimes you gotta be real. Paul doesn't have a chance. Face it. He might have good ideas, yadda, yadda, yadda. But he got some dumb ones too. It ain't gonna happen. I like alot of what he says. But it ain't gonna happen. Maybe next time......??

Tool-Slinger
04-12-2012, 10:03 PM
Sometimes you gotta be real. Paul doesn't have a chance. Face it. He might have good ideas, yadda, yadda, yadda. But he got some dumb ones too. It ain't gonna happen. I like alot of what he says. But it ain't gonna happen. Maybe next time......??
Ron Paul is the "AREA 51" of politics.

batdude
04-12-2012, 10:11 PM
people will eventually wake up on RINO Romney.

in a brokered convention, after first vote, all delegates are unbound, anything can happen.

no one can predict how Santorum's supporters will end up. largely Evangelicals, will they pick a Mormon? or go for the real Christian conservative?

and no one knows how many delegates that are bound to others are actually RP supporters.

RP seems pretty true to the Constitution to me. dumb ideas? such as...? (maybe 750 miilitary bases in 130 countries?)

as far as comparison, his consistent 30 years of principled conservative advocacy takes a back seat to NOBODY else on the scene. NOBODY!

End the Fed
End the interminable, unconstitutional, bankrupting, pointless Wars
Legalize FREEDOM

Pretty simple, really.

Tool-Slinger
04-12-2012, 10:15 PM
people will eventually wake up on RINO Romney.

in a brokered convention, after first vote, all delegates are unbound, anything can happen.

no one can predict how Santorum's supporters will end up. largely Evangelicals, will they pick a Mormon? or go for the real Christian conservative?

and no one knows how many delegates that are bound to others are actually RP supporters.

RP seems pretty true to the Constitution to me. dumb ideas? such as...? (maybe 750 miilitary bases in 130 countries?)

as far as comparison, his consistent 30 years of principled conservative advocacy takes a back seat to NOBODY else on the scene. NOBODY!

End the Fed
End the interminable, unconstitutional, bankrupting, pointless Wars
Legalize FREEDOM

Pretty simple, really.
Ron paul winning 5 or 10 percent of the vote would indicate that most people do not agree with him. Or you.

I personally like Ron Paul, but he is just not presidential material. Not enough support.

batdude
04-12-2012, 10:45 PM
well, it's halftime in the game. and the winner is? according to the paid professional media liars we have been told already. game over. some rubes apparently believe it.

(but if RINO Mitt does get the nod, the winner will be Obama.)

maybe you NATO troops had it different, but I took an oath to support the US Constitution.

the guys in our military now damn sure know what's up, as judged by their contributions. more than TWICE as much to RP than all others COMBINED.

if you think you can, you can. if you think you can't, you're right.

man, it's a Revolution.

and don't forget Ron Paul is a cool daddio !!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6-zJrY6sII&feature=player_embedded

the mojo
04-12-2012, 10:45 PM
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-20/jpmorgan-employees-join-goldman-sachs-among-top-obama-donors.html


Any questions now ?

the mojo
04-12-2012, 11:22 PM
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ron-paul-only-candidate-able-to-defeat-obama-in-new-poll-2012-04-12


Fresh off the press..........