View Full Version : Whats the idealogical difference here?
coolwhip
03-20-2012, 03:40 PM
Is there an idealogical difference between these guys and crazy Islamic clerics?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=329_1332265343
classical
03-20-2012, 04:36 PM
Is there an idealogical difference between these guys and crazy Islamic clerics?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=329_1332265343
Extremist on any side are wrong, Rush Limbaugh is a right wing extremist these people are religious extremist, Obama and his crowd are left wing extremist and the Taliban are religious extremist the world would be a better place without any of them.
Extremist on any side are wrong, Rush Limbaugh is a right wing extremist these people are religious extremist, Obama and his crowd are left wing extremist and the Taliban are religious extremist the world would be a better place without any of them.
Wow, Zealots.
tunnel_rat
03-20-2012, 06:28 PM
Wow, it's a wonder we make it day to day.....I can see Obama and the Taliban, but what exactly makes Rush an extremist"? Seriously, try and answer that. Stand by your convictions...
classical
03-20-2012, 06:53 PM
Wow, it's a wonder we make it day to day.....I can see Obama and the Taliban, but what exactly makes Rush an extremist"? Seriously, try and answer that. Stand by your convictions...
Rush is an extremist because he always takes the most extreme righ wing view he can. What is worst about Rush is if he could have become rich being a left wing extremist he would have done so. That is the worst kind of extremist one that does it for gain not conviction. He is an extremist for profit he spouts off for shock factor not a belif system. Just look at the slut comment totally uncalled for, not that I disagree with him just an inappropriate response.
Now I did not mean to take this away from COOLS original post, yes the Zionist in the video are just as extreme as the Taliban.
tunnel_rat
03-20-2012, 07:10 PM
Rush is an extremist because he always takes the most extreme righ wing view he can. What is worst about Rush is if he could have become rich being a left wing extremist he would have done so. That is the worst kind of extremist one that does it for gain not conviction. He is an extremist for profit he spouts off for shock factor not a belif system. Just look at the slut comment totally uncalled for, not that I disagree with him just an inappropriate response.
Now I did not mean to take this away from COOLS original post, yes the Zionist in the video are just as extreme as the Taliban.
That is what I expected to read. No examples, just childish jibberish from someone with no principles of their own to stand up by.Most extreme right wing view? LOL...Like freedom of speech and constitutional gov't? Wow, what a nut. We better shut him up. Keep believing what you do then, let me know how it works out.....
classical
03-20-2012, 07:21 PM
That is what I expected to read. No examples, just childish jibberish from someone with no principles of their own to stand up by.Most extreme right wing view? LOL...Like freedom of speech and constitutional gov't? Wow, what a nut. We better shut him up. Keep believing what you do then, let me know how it works out.....
Do a search and look up his past and see what he has done before his incarnation as the voice of the Right. I listened to him for the first two years he was on the air, he is a bombastic dilettante and does more harm to the conservative cause than he does good. I gave you an example his most recent. I agree with much of what he says I just do not believe he really believes what he says.
tunnel_rat
03-20-2012, 09:19 PM
So then why say it? Apparently alot of people feel the same way. What harm has he done? To conservatives I mean....He has exposed the left to millions for what they are. That cannot be denied. How can you go on for 20 years spouting BS you don't believe and be correct as well? Your argument makes no sense.
glennac
03-20-2012, 09:33 PM
Classical I haven't heard Rush advocate violence, say a false hood, or act like an extremest in anyway. He offers opinions which many object to but that is an opinion and I have to say I agree with most of his opinions anyhow.
So you disagree with him but that doesn't make him an extremist like Obama and a lot of our Marxist and communist Democratic leaders. Thank you, thank you very much
infwsdm
03-20-2012, 09:40 PM
Rush would NOT be considered an extremist. Only the dumb****crats think so
classical
03-20-2012, 09:58 PM
Classical I haven't heard Rush advocate violence, say a false hood, or act like an extremest in anyway. He offers opinions which many object to but that is an opinion and I have to say I agree with most of his opinions anyhow.
So you disagree with him but that doesn't make him an extremist like Obama and a lot of our Marxist and communist Democratic leaders. Thank you, thank you very much
Like I said I agree with much of what he says and I have not listened to him since 99 or maybe 2000 and I did not say he advocates violence. I do believe his rhetoric borders on extremism. He gives people that might consider conservatives a good reason to embrace liberalism because he is so over the top in his rhetoric.
Have you ever heard of Art Bell the UFO guy on late night, well that was Rush before he became a "conservative" and yes he could easily spout conservative rhetoric for almost twenty years and not be a true believer.
Now can we get back to Cools original post and if you want to start a thread about the validity of Rush do so.
tunnel_rat
03-20-2012, 10:05 PM
You brought up Rush, not us....
classical
03-20-2012, 10:16 PM
You brought up Rush, not us....
I also brought up Obama and the Taliban, I guess I could have brought up Ed Schultz and Mike Savage.
glennac
03-20-2012, 10:34 PM
Is there an idealogical difference between these guys and crazy Islamic clerics?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=329_1332265343
I've also known there were zealot Zionists who are like that and who would approve of killing innocent non Jews but they are only a very small minority. Most Jews however are very prejudiced against gentiles which is shown for all to see in Israel and you can see it here also.
The Muslims on the other hand are nearly all very prejudiced against infidels and a good percent of them approve of Jihad and this has been confirmed by poling data.
Real Christians and most reasonable folks on the other hand are fair minded to a fault and are far better than the Jews or Muslims and that is my opinion. Prove that wrong. Thank you, thank you very much
coolwhip
03-21-2012, 07:40 AM
Glenn, the US State Departments seal has the Jewish star on David on it and is on every office door in that building.
The Council of Foreign Relations is run buy Zionists and has an office just down the street from the State Dept.
In Hillary Clintons own words at a meeting there last year, "Its good to have an office of the CFR just down the street from the SD. This is good because I wont have to travel to Israel to find out what we should be doing."
The president of the CFR is Richard Haas
On the board of directors sit bankers Robert Rubin (city group), Stephen Friedman (goldman sachs), Penny Pritzger (hyatt hotels). Penny is currently Obamas special advisor.
Last year Clinton appointed Victoria Noodleman (real name before name changed) as the US State Dept's official spokes person. She is the wife of Robert Kagen.
The list goes on and on. What this country is being told to do is being dictated by Israel.
And yes, these extremest Zionists have a lot of power and pull with the CFR that controls our White House and foreign policies.
Im just trying to make folks aware of who is doing what out there.
"Real Christians and most reasonable folks on the other hand are fair minded to a fault and are far better than the Jews or Muslims and that is my opinion. Prove that wrong. Thank you, thank you very much"
I disagree, If we were better then we would be controlling our own countries government and deciding its foreign policies....until we do, we will continue to be humanary stew by Zionist elitists that have dug themselves into our system like an Alabama tic.
These are the facts folks...do the research yourselves if you don't believe me. Our country is not in our control and our interests are not decided by the people. The ship named America has a zionist mafia at the helm. I don't like it when mafias are in control of anything!
Brian GC
03-21-2012, 10:51 AM
Look what they did to Mel Gibson with a flick of a finger.
'Let that be a lesson to you people.'
jmac00
03-21-2012, 11:07 AM
just think how much happier everyone would be if there was no religion at all?
sheesh this is not that hard to figure out:whistle:
Im going back to worshiping Zeus :angel:
acmanko
03-21-2012, 11:15 AM
just think how much happier everyone would be if there was no religion at all?
sheesh this is not that hard to figure out:whistle:
Im going back to worshiping Zeus :angel:
Why Zeus? Odin had far more power and wisdom.
jmac00
03-21-2012, 11:19 AM
Why Zeus? Odin had far more power and wisdom.
ok, Im easy? Hell, I'll worship the Sun Gods, although they sacrificed people, I doubt that can be a good thing :whistle:
coolwhip
03-21-2012, 12:39 PM
To the Zionist, us gentiles are considered common goyim = pigs ready for slaughter.
Think about this the next time one of your children want to enlist. Are they really protecting American interest or doing the bidding of a zionist agenda keeping America and its people in bondage?
Like I said, do the research and look at the people pulling the strings on our puppet presidents, look at their religions, affiliations, marriages, books if they have written any... see where there interests lay.
For example Robert Kagen, husband of Mrs. Noodleman (State Dept. Spokeswoman) has written:
A Twilight Struggle: American Power and Nicaragua, 1977-1990. (1996)
Of Paradise and Power: America and Europe in the New World Order. (2003)
Dangerous Nation: America's Place in the World from its Earliest Days to the Dawn of the Twentieth Century. (2006)
The Return of History and the End of Dreams. (2008)
The World America Made. (2012)
newoldtech
03-21-2012, 05:04 PM
To the Zionist, us gentiles are considered common goyim = pigs ready for slaughter.
Think about this the next time one of your children want to enlist. Are they really protecting American interest or doing the bidding of a zionist agenda keeping America and its people in bondage?
Like I said, do the research and look at the people pulling the strings on our puppet presidents, look at their religions, affiliations, marriages, books if they have written any... see where there interests lay.
For example Robert Kagen, husband of Mrs. Noodleman (State Dept. Spokeswoman) has written:
A Twilight Struggle: American Power and Nicaragua, 1977-1990. (1996)
Of Paradise and Power: America and Europe in the New World Order. (2003)
Dangerous Nation: America's Place in the World from its Earliest Days to the Dawn of the Twentieth Century. (2006)
The Return of History and the End of Dreams. (2008)
The World America Made. (2012)
I'll look into it I promise. But first I'm going to take a dip in my pool and then go out for a nice dinner and then I promise I'll look into the bondage I'm in. I guess I'll just sell my nice house and move to China or Iran where I can be free.
coolwhip
03-21-2012, 05:07 PM
You do that...let us know how it works out for you. I certainly hope you are happy in whichever microcosm you so blindly live in.
I've also known there were zealot Zionists who are like that and who would approve of killing innocent non Jews but they are only a very small minority. Most Jews however are very prejudiced against gentiles which is shown for all to see in Israel and you can see it here also.
The Muslims on the other hand are nearly all very prejudiced against infidels and a good percent of them approve of Jihad and this has been confirmed by poling data.
Real Christians and most reasonable folks on the other hand are fair minded to a fault and are far better than the Jews or Muslims and that is my opinion. Prove that wrong. Thank you, thank you very much
Real Christians would not want to bomb human beings in to the stone age, or nuke them, and I'm not even sure if such person described as Christ in the bible even existed. But I live by the principals written, for they are the only way this civilization will survive, and if we dont, we will extinct ourself, like so many civilizations before us.
Roy
glennac
03-21-2012, 08:47 PM
Real Christians would not want to bomb human beings in to the stone age, or nuke them, and I'm not even sure if such person described as Christ in the bible even existed. But I live by the principals written, for they are the only way this civilization will survive, and if we dont, we will extinct ourself, like so many civilizations before us.
Roy
Well Roy you are allowed to defend yourself and if your enemy dresses like everyone else and no one is willing to ID them then I say bring out the bombs and of course only bomb the areas where they are hiding out.
Now if their friends want to help them then they get it to. This is simplified I know and we do use intelligence to limit ca-lateral damage but it is better than to be blown away by your enemy just because we might hurt some of their friends also.
I understand your concern about what happened in WWII where we just bombed non military targets and see how many women and children we could kill when bombing cities with no military value like Dresden.
That was a war crime in anybody's book other than some nut who thinks bombing civilians as a war objective is OK. But here we only bomb the places where they are hiding out or in the vehicles they are riding in. Thank you, thank you very much
glennac
03-21-2012, 08:54 PM
Glenn, the US State Departments seal has the Jewish star on David on it and is on every office door in that building.
The Council of Foreign Relations is run buy Zionists and has an office just down the street from the State Dept.
In Hillary Clintons own words at a meeting there last year, "Its good to have an office of the CFR just down the street from the SD. This is good because I wont have to travel to Israel to find out what we should be doing."
The president of the CFR is Richard Haas
On the board of directors sit bankers Robert Rubin (city group), Stephen Friedman (goldman sachs), Penny Pritzger (hyatt hotels). Penny is currently Obamas special advisor.
Last year Clinton appointed Victoria Noodleman (real name before name changed) as the US State Dept's official spokes person. She is the wife of Robert Kagen.
The list goes on and on. What this country is being told to do is being dictated by Israel.
And yes, these extremest Zionists have a lot of power and pull with the CFR that controls our White House and foreign policies.
Im just trying to make folks aware of who is doing what out there.
"Real Christians and most reasonable folks on the other hand are fair minded to a fault and are far better than the Jews or Muslims and that is my opinion. Prove that wrong. Thank you, thank you very much"
I disagree, If we were better then we would be controlling our own countries government and deciding its foreign policies....until we do, we will continue to be humanary stew by Zionist elitists that have dug themselves into our system like an Alabama tic.
These are the facts folks...do the research yourselves if you don't believe me. Our country is not in our control and our interests are not decided by the people. The ship named America has a zionist mafia at the helm. I don't like it when mafias are in control of anything!
You have made some good points there cool and they do have lots of control no doubt but it is not complete, we did win the war against the evil empire even though most Jews are liberal up to communist and they and the Democrats were unable to curb Reagan in this crusade thank heavens. Thank you, thank you very much
Well Roy you are allowed to defend yourself and if your enemy dresses like everyone else and no one is willing to ID them then I say bring out the bombs and of course only bomb the areas where they are hiding out.
Now if their friends want to help them then they get it to. This is simplified I know and we do use intelligence to limit ca-lateral damage but it is better than to be blown away by your enemy just because we might hurt some of their friends also.
I understand your concern about what happened in WWII where we just bombed non military targets and see how many women and children we could kill when bombing cities with no military value like Dresden.
That was a war crime in anybody's book other than some nut who thinks bombing civilians as a war objective is OK. But here we only bomb the places where they are hiding out or in the vehicles they are riding in. Thank you, thank you very much
Look Glenn, we could go round and round about this subject, both sides are wrong, there is nothing right about what is happening today. And I dont trust anything I hear from our goverment today, for it treats us just like the terrorist they fight outside this country. They are taken our freedoms away, they are making a mockery of our constitution and our common law. Any country that does that can not be trusted, period. They now can enter our home, wisk us off to some unknown place, and incarcerate us without telling anyone where we are, no habius corpus...nothing, just like the Gestapos did.
What no one seems to mention and wants to admit, is what is human nature. Whenever a foreign army is in a country, it is the invader, and no citizen in any country will like such a thing, and when friends, families and your own children get killed, for whatever reason, they will hate and want revenge, its human nature.
The difference between a terrorist and a hero......is all about wich side you stand at.
Roy
newoldtech
03-21-2012, 11:05 PM
I dont trust anything I hear from our goverment today, for it treats us just like the terrorist they fight outside this country. They are taken our freedoms away, they are making a mockery of our constitution and our common law. Any country that does that can not be trusted, period. They now can enter our home, wisk us off to some unknown place, and incarcerate us without telling anyone where we are, no habius corpus...nothing, just like the Gestapos did.
Roy
I dont know of any law abiding American citizen just being wisked away. Just because there may be some laws that gives the government the power to possibly do something doesn't mean they are or will. It seems more like paranoia of a worst case scenario, that more than likely will never come to pass. Yea you really cant trust the government or the police or anyone, I understand that. But do you really believe that they are about to be coming after typical law abiding citizens?
Brian GC
03-22-2012, 12:30 AM
...and I'm not even sure if such person described as Christ in the bible even existed.
That is why most Christians won't touch the origins of the Bible with a ten foot pole.
I am currently watching one of “The Great Courses: The Making of the Bible” by Professor Bart D. Ehrman. It casts more than doubt on the authenticity and accuracy of the Bible.
I would love to see any Christian debate him.
glennac
03-22-2012, 04:45 AM
That is why most Christians won't touch the origins of the Bible with a ten foot pole.
I am currently watching one of “The Great Courses: The Making of the Bible” by Professor Bart D. Ehrman. It casts more than doubt on the authenticity and accuracy of the Bible.
I would love to see any Christian debate him.
Funny how one can be so easily influenced by charlatans like "Professor" Ehrman because they dislike Christianity. Check out the expo-say on Ehrman and his false conclusions. Try something else there Brian and next time try and find someone more credible. Read the whole text. Here is the introduction. Thank you, thank you very much
http://www.christianlifetools.org/clientimages/28178/bartehrman.pdf
"The problem is that someone who is an unbeliever (or prone to unbelief) will read Ehrman’s account and feel justified in their unbelief. To me, this is both sad and dangerous.
Sad: because in all probability they will never read the Bible for themselves and the message of the Bible will remain foreign to them. They will be “reading” the Bible through Ehrman’s chronic unbelief. Dangerous: because it is the very message of the Bible that is of utmost importance. There are many biblical scholars at Ehrman’s level who would totally disagree with the conclusions he has settled upon.
The issues brought up by Bart D. Ehrman’s Misquoting Jesus are nothing new. There were three major sections of Scripture that Ehrman cited as being inauthentic: the passage in John 8:1-11, about the woman caught in adultery, the passage that closes Mark’s gospel (Mark 16:9-20), and the text of 1 John 5:7,8. These are well known disputed passages and there is no conspiracy to hide the problem.
Most modern Bibles will make reference to the controversy in footnotes. No doctrine of the Christian faith is weakened by this problem. This is because no doctrine of the Christian faith rests solely on one portion of Scripture. Rather, essential doctrines of the Christian faith are found in the context of the entire Bible. Anyone who has the desire may inquire about these disputed texts and judge for themselves what makes them controversial.................."
jmac00
03-22-2012, 06:47 AM
it's threads like these that make religion (all religion) convoluted to the point of exhaustion.
You can take any belief system and turn it into anything you want.
God or Mohammad or Budda exists only in the minds of men (and women).
If you believe, then that deity is real to you. That doesn't mean you can run around and preach to everyone else that THEY must believe in YOUR deity.
lets face it, religion is a learned behavior.
coolwhip
03-22-2012, 07:26 AM
I think that believing in God is great thing if it helps folks get through this life. Its the institution of religion that I am an opponent of. The same institution that uses religion as a control and fear mechanism.
acmanko
03-22-2012, 07:34 AM
If everyone would think about God and how to worship him the same way , there would be no need for religion. I don't see it happening though.
hearthman
03-22-2012, 10:10 AM
I was really shocked and disappointed to read Classical's take on Rush Limbaugh comparing him to militant extremists. That's just sick. First of all, he is just standing up for values that this country was founded upon. To be a Right Wing Extremist means he would have to go far beyond those values, which he does not. Name one thing he has advocated or espoused that is extreme to the Right past the values this country was founded upon and built upon.
A Republican today is the liberal left of the 1960s. The Right has gone so far across the aisle to appease the Left they crossed the ocean. That's why our country is in the toilet it is today: morally spiritually, and functionally.
The Bible and Christ have been proven genuine by over 25,000 various documents, manuscripts and accounts from antiquity. You can choose to believe the Bible is the Word of God and try your best to follow it, not re-writing it to suite your own worldly motives as many denominations have or you can ignore it. If you think it is all fantasy then it shouldn't bother you as long as it does not directly instruct the killing of innocents the way the Q'ran does. I will continue to pray for those of you who do not believe but it is your choice and I cannot force it on you the way Islam tries to do. Just understand that the only thing keeping people from killing and enslaving each other is Judeo-Christian values. Sure, many have claimed to be followers of the God of Abraham but their actions speak louder than words so they are not true believers.
It is these values that have formed the basis of what we know as 'civilization' and built the world. Now, we are in a race to destroy those very values. What outcome do you think you'll get without God instructing us? Do you really think your neighbor will not try to enslave you, kill you, or force his will upon you? It ain't happening. Anywhere there is misery and death in the world is an absolute vacuum of Christ. Anywhere there is peace, love and tranquility, there is God. We took God out of our schools and they are animal cages. We took God out of our courts and they are now whorehouses of liars and thieves (judges). We took God out of everything we can and now we have pain, misery, suffering and no relief in sight all because God is kept out. Morever, the forecast is exponentially worse, again because God is being shunned. Why are people so quick to jump on a fast train to hell?
Brian GC
03-22-2012, 10:26 AM
Funny how one can be so easily influenced by charlatans like "Professor" Ehrman because they dislike Christianity. Check out the expo-say on Ehrman and his false conclusions. Try something else there Brian and next time try and find someone more credible. Read the whole text. Here is the introduction. Thank you, thank you very much
http://www.christianlifetools.org/clientimages/28178/bartehrman.pdf
"The problem is that someone who is an unbeliever (or prone to unbelief) will read Ehrman’s account and feel justified in their unbelief. To me, this is both sad and dangerous.
Sad: because in all probability they will never read the Bible for themselves and the message of the Bible will remain foreign to them. They will be “reading” the Bible through Ehrman’s chronic unbelief. Dangerous: because it is the very message of the Bible that is of utmost importance. There are many biblical scholars at Ehrman’s level who would totally disagree with the conclusions he has settled upon.
The issues brought up by Bart D. Ehrman’s Misquoting Jesus are nothing new. There were three major sections of Scripture that Ehrman cited as being inauthentic: the passage in John 8:1-11, about the woman caught in adultery, the passage that closes Mark’s gospel (Mark 16:9-20), and the text of 1 John 5:7,8. These are well known disputed passages and there is no conspiracy to hide the problem.
Most modern Bibles will make reference to the controversy in footnotes. No doctrine of the Christian faith is weakened by this problem. This is because no doctrine of the Christian faith rests solely on one portion of Scripture. Rather, essential doctrines of the Christian faith are found in the context of the entire Bible. Anyone who has the desire may inquire about these disputed texts and judge for themselves what makes them controversial.................."
Have you heard Professor Ehrman’s Great Courses lecture? If not, how can you comment on it?
The above is just a cut and paste job of someone else’s rebuttal. Is that really how you deal with opposing views?
Like I said, I'd like to see a Fundamentalist Christian square off with him in a debate.
Brian GC
03-22-2012, 10:41 AM
Name one thing he has advocated or espoused that is extreme to the Right
Calling women who have the birth control pill covered under their health insurance ‘prostitutes’.
There is a very simple litmus test. If you do not see Chris Matthews, Rachael Maddow, Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh as 'extreme', you are part of the problem.
ControlsInMT
03-22-2012, 11:44 AM
Calling women who have the birth control pill covered under their health insurance ‘prostitutes’.
There is a very simple litmus test. If you do not see Chris Matthews, Rachael Maddow, Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh as 'extreme', you are part of the problem.
Nice Leftwing spin!!!! :censored::gah:
I believe he called the one women that needed $3K in birth control while attending law school a slut or prostitute. Never did he make as broad a statement as you claim.:grin2:
As far as your litmus test, guess I'm part of the problem or at least the problem you see. :angel: :cheers:
newoldtech
03-22-2012, 11:55 AM
Calling women who have the birth control pill covered under their health insurance ‘prostitutes’.
There is a very simple litmus test. If you do not see Chris Matthews, Rachael Maddow, Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh as 'extreme', you are part of the problem.
One thing I've learned on this forum is the definition of extreme.
It is anyone who doesn't think exactly like the person who is posting. In other words, everyone thinks everyone else who thinks different than they do is extreme. It almost doesn't matter what you post. Someone will come by and call you an extreme sheep faster than you can say Baaaaaa.
classical
03-22-2012, 02:22 PM
I was really shocked and disappointed to read Classical's take on Rush Limbaugh comparing him to militant extremists. That's just sick. First of all, he is just standing up for values that this country was founded upon. To be a Right Wing Extremist means he would have to go far beyond those values, which he does not. Name one thing he has advocated or espoused that is extreme to the Right past the values this country was founded upon and built upon.
A Republican today is the liberal left of the 1960s. The Right has gone so far across the aisle to appease the Left they crossed the ocean. That's why our country is in the toilet it is today: morally spiritually, and functionally.
The Bible and Christ have been proven genuine by over 25,000 various documents, manuscripts and accounts from antiquity. You can choose to believe the Bible is the Word of God and try your best to follow it, not re-writing it to suite your own worldly motives as many denominations have or you can ignore it. If you think it is all fantasy then it shouldn't bother you as long as it does not directly instruct the killing of innocents the way the Q'ran does. I will continue to pray for those of you who do not believe but it is your choice and I cannot force it on you the way Islam tries to do. Just understand that the only thing keeping people from killing and enslaving each other is Judeo-Christian values. Sure, many have claimed to be followers of the God of Abraham but their actions speak louder than words so they are not true believers.
It is these values that have formed the basis of what we know as 'civilization' and built the world. Now, we are in a race to destroy those very values. What outcome do you think you'll get without God instructing us? Do you really think your neighbor will not try to enslave you, kill you, or force his will upon you? It ain't happening. Anywhere there is misery and death in the world is an absolute vacuum of Christ. Anywhere there is peace, love and tranquility, there is God. We took God out of our schools and they are animal cages. We took God out of our courts and they are now whorehouses of liars and thieves (judges). We took God out of everything we can and now we have pain, misery, suffering and no relief in sight all because God is kept out. Morever, the forecast is exponentially worse, again because God is being shunned. Why are people so quick to jump on a fast train to hell?
I am one of the most conservative on this site socially and fiscally and maybe extremist was too harsh but his rhetoric is way over the top.
I do not agree with Brian on much but on this I do, all or almost all of these radio/TV pundits on both sides are little more than shock jocks. They say what ever they can to bring in ratings and I do seriously doubt Limbaugh's true conservative belief system.
I cannot any longer site specific incidents of Limbaugh's over the top rhetoric that has hurt the conservative cause because I quit listening to him over a decade back and do not consider him relevant. The most recent rant/attack on that young woman calling her a slut is a perfect example, there was no need for that type of language. Yes she has limited morals and we taxpayers should not be paying for hers or anyone's birth control and no I do not think insurance provides should not be paying for birth control pills because it raises my rates.
However it does no good to use inflammatory rhetoric for the sake of the shock value and ratings it only inflames the other side and stagnates or eliminates reasoned discourse between the opposing sides. Why should an entertainer be the leading voice for either side especially the conservative side, we need real relevant conservatives to lead our cause not some loud mouth.
jmac00
03-22-2012, 03:35 PM
I quit listening to him over a decade back and do not consider him relevant.
Then whats your problem with him?
The most recent rant/attack on that young woman calling her a slut is a perfect example,
so what? Maybe Rush THINKS SHE IS A SLUT? who cares?
Yes she has limited morals
so she is a slut? make up your mind, will ya, sheesh
and we taxpayers should not be paying for hers or anyone's birth control and no I do not think insurance provides should not be paying for birth control pills because it raises my rates.
But its ok for Health care providers to pay for Viagra, so you can get a stiffy? But not ok to pay for the results of men being promiscuous. Got kinda the double standard working there don't ya
However it does no good to use inflammatory rhetoric for the sake of the shock value and ratings it only inflames the other side and stagnates or eliminates reasoned discourse between the opposing sides.Why should an entertainer be the leading voice for either side especially the conservative side, we need real relevant conservatives to lead our cause not some loud mouth.
BINGO!!!!
so tell us again why your still ranting on someone you really don't care about?
acmanko
03-22-2012, 03:51 PM
As you can see by this definition, protestants and those who advocate a return to the gold standard are liberal
Definition of LIBERALISM
1
: the quality or state of being liberal
2
aoften capitalized: a movement in modern Protestantism emphasizing intellectual liberty and the spiritual and ethical content of Christianity b: a theory in economics emphasizing individual freedom from restraint and usually based on free competition, the self-regulating market, and the gold standard c: a political philosophy based on belief in progress, the essential goodness of the human race, and the autonomy of the individual and standing for the protection of political and civil liberties; specifically: such a philosophy that considers government as a crucial instrument for amelioration of social inequities (as those involving race, gender, or class) dcapitalized: the principles and policies of a Liberal party
jmac00
03-22-2012, 04:24 PM
As you can see by this definition, protestants and those who advocate a return to the gold standard are liberal
Definition of LIBERALISM
1
: the quality or state of being liberal
2
aoften capitalized: a movement in modern Protestantism emphasizing intellectual liberty and the spiritual and ethical content of Christianity b: a theory in economics emphasizing individual freedom from restraint and usually based on free competition, the self-regulating market, and the gold standard c: a political philosophy based on belief in progress, the essential goodness of the human race, and the autonomy of the individual and standing for the protection of political and civil liberties; specifically: such a philosophy that considers government as a crucial instrument for amelioration of social inequities (as those involving race, gender, or class) dcapitalized: the principles and policies of a Liberal party
well your dictionary is wrong, I site the liberals in Washington as a prime example of liberalism......it's all about control.
It has nothing to do with "autonomy of the individual and standing for the protection of political and civil liberties" it has to do with control.
classical
03-22-2012, 04:33 PM
Then whats your problem with him?
My problem is since Rush came on the scene back in 1994 it has become virtually impossible fro two people of slightly varying viewpoints to have a reasoned dialogue. The rise of Rush and latter others like Hannity, Matthews, Maddow, Savage, Ed Schultz along with the proliferation of 24 hour news has ended polite political discussions.
Think back to what it was like in the 60's 70's and 80's to have a political discussion with friends, it certainly was not the brawls that occur today.
Rush brought insults and volume to the discussions, granted most discussion on TV or radio in those days came from the left it was still civil.
so what? Maybe Rush THINKS SHE IS A SLUT? who cares?
It not that he thinks she is a slut or not it is the demeanor in which in a public forum he describes her. He could have just as well gotten his point across with different less inflammatory. Such language only alienates others that might be inclined by a more civil conversation.
so she is a slut? make up your mind, will ya, sheesh
My mind was always made up but why be belligerent about it.
But its ok for Health care providers to pay for Viagra, so you can get a stiffy? But not ok to pay for the results of men being promiscuous. Got kinda the double standard working there don't ya
Where did I state Viagra or any such drug should be covered, I am against any such drugs being covered by Medicaid or insurance. I also opposed to women being paid for having children, drug addicts for being drug addicts, drunks for being drunks and people being paid disability for being too fat.
BINGO!!!!
so tell us again why your still ranting on someone you really don't care about?
I made a simple statement that I thought Rush, the Taliban/al-Qaida and Obama are extremist and a firestorm broke out.
newoldtech
03-22-2012, 04:40 PM
I made a simple statement that I thought Rush, the Taliban/al-Qaida and Obama are extremist and a firestorm broke out.
I can understand you having a problem with Rush and the Taliban. But what is your problem with Al-Qaida?
J/k :grin2:
classical
03-22-2012, 04:43 PM
I can understand you having a problem with Rush and the Taliban. But what is your problem with Al-Qaida?
J/k :grin2:
Unkempt beards!:whistle:
jmac00
03-22-2012, 05:31 PM
Unkempt beards!:whistle:
ya, it upsets the goats :grin2:
Tool-Slinger
03-22-2012, 07:01 PM
Is there an idealogical difference between these guys and crazy Islamic clerics?
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=329_1332265343
Jews are not killing infidels and americans willy-nilly for fun and honor. Nothing comes to mind, but I'll bet we could find christian comparison also. Communist/socialist/marxist/atheist comparisons not needed as they have recent track records.
Bottom line is that muslims are on a murderous rampage now, nobody else is. So there is no factual equivalency possible. Ideologically, per OP, I guess we are all equally guilty.
Tool-Slinger
03-22-2012, 07:19 PM
Real Christians would not want to bomb human beings in to the stone age, or nuke them, and I'm not even sure if such person described as Christ in the bible even existed. But I live by the principals written, for they are the only way this civilization will survive, and if we dont, we will extinct ourself, like so many civilizations before us.
Roy
Well we are sure the muslims want to bomb us into the stone age and nuke us, they just don't have the ability right now. If we let them, then that is our extinction.
Civilizations do not survive by compromise or principals, only by conquering. I would hope we can conquer them through peaceful means,... but sheeeet, I don't think they like us.
coolwhip
03-22-2012, 07:23 PM
"Civilizations do not survive by compromise or principals, only by conquering."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hikLjcwFdD8
Agreed!
Tool-Slinger
03-22-2012, 07:29 PM
"Civilizations do not survive by compromise or principals, only by conquering."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hikLjcwFdD8
Agreed!
ROFLMAO!!
I am sorry, but that is pretty much how it has worked for about ten or twenty thousand years or so....
Tool-Slinger
03-22-2012, 07:37 PM
ROFLMAO!!
I am sorry, but that is pretty much how it has worked for about ten or twenty thousand years or so....
The jews think jesus will come, the christians think jesus will return, the muslims think the muslim jesus will return [some idiot child who fell down a water-well,..typical muslim hero]
I figure the history of the earth is more important for weighing decisions. I am a christian, so if jesus appears tomorrow I will be very happy and sing and dance. But tonight I am sleeping with a .45 by my pillow. Just in case.
glennac
03-22-2012, 07:54 PM
The jews think jesus will come, the christians think jesus will return, the muslims think the muslim jesus will return [some idiot child who fell down a water-well,..typical muslim hero]
I figure the history of the earth is more important for weighing decisions. I am a christian, so if jesus appears tomorrow I will be very happy and sing and dance. But tonight I am sleeping with a .45 by my pillow. Just in case.
Hey Tool most Jews don't have a religion anymore. Just a social club to advance themselves at the expense of others. Check this out. Thank you, thank you very much
http://www.wernercohn.com/Shahak.html
Tool-Slinger
03-22-2012, 08:03 PM
Hey Tool most Jews don't have a religion anymore. Just a social club to advance themselves at the expense of others. Check this out. Thank you, thank you very much
http://www.wernercohn.com/Shahak.html
Fringe jews, catholics, and christians do not bother me at all.
breeze101
03-22-2012, 11:39 PM
Well Coolwhip, if you didn't have yourself on a list you do now!
Well we are sure the muslims want to bomb us into the stone age and nuke us, they just don't have the ability right now. If we let them, then that is our extinction.
Civilizations do not survive by compromise or principals, only by conquering. I would hope we can conquer them through peaceful means,... but sheeeet, I don't think they like us.
The problem with you and others is that you want to ignore history of where all this started, or your not ecucated to the subject.
So tell, who has done the most bombing and the death of a populace ?? And if we were to be attacked and occupied, wouldnt we do the same ? As I said before, you want to ignore the human factor, human beings are going to seek revenge when you kill people in their country, they react no different then we would.
Since WWI to today who has done most of the killings, Christians or Muslims ??? We Christians dont have a good record where peace is concerned, we always seem find an enemy somewhere to fight.
Roy
coolwhip
03-23-2012, 06:42 AM
Well Coolwhip, if you didn't have yourself on a list you do now!
Why? anybody and everybody should be aware of this. All though its not conveyed in the media on the 5 oclock news, the information is certainly there for those who wish to see and wonder who exactly has authority in Washington....all one has to do is some reading and a few mouse clicks.
We're all humanary stew!
Tool-Slinger
03-23-2012, 11:02 AM
The problem with you and others is that you want to ignore history of where all this started, or your not ecucated to the subject.
So tell, who has done the most bombing and the death of a populace ?? And if we were to be attacked and occupied, wouldnt we do the same ? As I said before, you want to ignore the human factor, human beings are going to seek revenge when you kill people in their country, they react no different then we would.
Since WWI to today who has done most of the killings, Christians or Muslims ??? We Christians dont have a good record where peace is concerned, we always seem find an enemy somewhere to fight.
Roy
Actually Roy communist dictators have done the most killing.
But political wars by nations is not a good comparison to religious motivated murder or genocide or wars.
Brian GC
03-23-2012, 11:29 AM
Nice Leftwing spin!!!! :censored::gah:
I believe he called the one women that needed $3K in birth control while attending law school a slut or prostitute. Never did he make as broad a statement as you claim.:grin2:
Wasn’t she up there arguing for all women’s needs? Therefore, to call her a slut is calling them all sluts. And since when is the pill $3K a year?
ControlsInMT
03-23-2012, 11:33 AM
Wasn’t she up there arguing for all women’s needs? Therefore, to call her a slut is calling them all sluts. And since when is the pill $3K a year?
She was stating her situation, not all women's needs....
There are many medical reasons a woman could/should be prescribed a birth control pill and would not argue that fact.
classical
03-23-2012, 12:01 PM
She was stating her situation, not all women's needs....
There are many medical reasons a woman could/should be prescribed a birth control pill and would not argue that fact.
There are legitimate reason a woman could be prescribed birth control pills but frequently doctors prescribe them for supposedly non birth control reasons just so they are covered by insurance when they are really for birth control.
Brian GC
03-23-2012, 12:31 PM
She was stating her situation, not all women's needs....
Stating her individual needs was not why she was there. Wasn’t she there to have birth control included on insurance plans? Therefore Rush was calling anyone who got birth control from their health provider a slut.
You can’t just shoot the messenger.
ControlsInMT
03-23-2012, 12:34 PM
Stating her individual needs was not why she was there. Wasn’t she there to have birth control included on insurance plans? Therefore Rush was calling anyone who got birth control from there health provider a slut.
You can’t just shoot the messenger.
Nice spin yet again... :gah:
Yes she was there to supposedly promote birth control being included, yet that was not the reason he referred to her that way. It was what she claimed she spent on birth control that brought out the remark.
Brian GC
03-23-2012, 12:38 PM
There are legitimate reason a woman could be prescribed birth control pills but frequently doctors prescribe them for supposedly non birth control reasons just so they are covered by insurance when they are really for birth control.
Doctors defraud insurance companies, the insurance companies defraud us and vice versa far worse than that every day on a much larger scale, which lead to higher insurance rates. Where is the uproar about that?
I say more power to them if it avoids unwanted pregnancies.
Brian GC
03-23-2012, 12:40 PM
Nice spin yet again... :gah:
Yes she was there to supposedly promote birth control being included, yet that was not the reason he referred to her that way. It was what she claimed she spent on birth control that brought out the remark.
Nice spin but I heard the remark. He shot the messenger.
ControlsInMT
03-23-2012, 12:41 PM
Should have taken out the ear plugs while you were listening then....
Brian GC
03-23-2012, 12:56 PM
Should have taken out the ear plugs while you were listening then....
As has been proven over and over on this forum, people hear what they want to hear. The problem is that they were convinced to take sides far before they got all the facts, but by then it is too late because change doesn't come easy.
WebCTRL
03-23-2012, 01:01 PM
Nice spin but I heard the remark. He shot the messenger.
Obviously not the whole comment, then. You pick what you want to fit your situation, IMO. You should teach a "spin" class.
cool-in-cayman
03-23-2012, 03:02 PM
Obviously not the whole comment, then. You pick what you want to fit your situation, IMO. You should teach a "spin" class.
I've found BrianGC to either be a dishonest debater or he is exactly what he claims to protest/detest.
He will make statements that hopefully go unchecked, and then when he is found to be wholly wrong about his "facts"/assertions he simply back tracks or changes the subject.
A lot of bumper sticker type comments are made by left wing "media" outlets and blogs that are utterly false, lies etc. Yet people like BrianGC will take this info as fact and repeat it. Since there is no interest in the truth, when faced with the actual facts "recordings of the actual statements" the subject is simply changed or the argument is spun.
I believe there is a term for this, can't remember exactly what it is, useful something or others.
Brian GC
03-23-2012, 04:46 PM
That girl was there representing an entire group of women, so how can Rush single her out as the only girl in that circumstance? Do you even know what “shoot the messenger” means?
Sure Rush isn’t stupid enough to call all women on insurance covered birth control sluts. Dah.
Maybe one of you could clarify the entire statement that I so clearly missed?
BTW – If his statement was so justified maybe the CEO’s of those multi-billion dollar corporations that pulled their ads missed it too, so speak to them as well while you are at it.
glennac
03-23-2012, 05:23 PM
Wasn’t she up there arguing for all women’s needs? Therefore, to call her a slut is calling them all sluts. And since when is the pill $3K a year?
She never said the pill cost that but that is what she spent for birth control. You may call her a saint to the cause of the radical left if you like and so on and so on but she by her own actions is a whore, a slut and a tramp by anyone's definition.
She testified that it cost her over $3,000 for three years for birth control. Target which is only 1.8 miles away from her dorm sells a month supply of pills for $9.00 which works out to $324 for three years worth of pills and then there is a planned parent hood clinic only 2 miles away where she could get them free.
I call her a pure slut and her parents ought to make her pay her way through law school based on all the sex she is giving away.
She needs to spend over $20.00 a week on condoms so she won't not only get pregnant but catch a STD from all the different guys she has sex with every day. It wouldn't cost her nothing if she was just taking birth control pills and seeing one guy like her boyfriend.
She spends all that money giving free sex to everyone she can have sex with. That would be the only explanation as to why she spent $3000 for birth control. She is indeed a slut. Thank you, thank you very much
coolwhip
03-23-2012, 05:46 PM
Yep...an fugly one too!
Gib's Son
03-23-2012, 07:06 PM
If she spends three grand a year on contraceptives, she must be a slut. If she does not, she is a liar. If she is a liar, she should be prosecuted for lying before congressional members. But when we have known liars such as queen Pelosi running the showcased hearing we all know that will never happen.
Either way, the woman has no character no matter how the cookie crumbles.
Brian GC
03-23-2012, 11:41 PM
Yep, ARP is the bottom of the barrel, and you guys are the gatekeepers.
Thank you, thank you very much.
cool-in-cayman
03-23-2012, 11:57 PM
That girl was there representing an entire group of women, so how can Rush single her out as the only girl in that circumstance?
So you claim there is this massive group of women who spend $1000 per year on "birth control" With a moments shopping you can find condoms for .83 each.
So let's presume that these woman want to have you and I pay for their condoms every time they have sex. And let's just imagine that they have sex every day of the year. If we bought all of their condoms, that's $303.86 per year if they had sex every single day.
http://www.undercovercondoms.com/Condoms/Trojan/346/16/Trojan-Ultra-Pleasure-Pack.html?zmam=90272621&zmas=9&zmac=101&zmap=PK867&gclid=CKiLjdDQ_q4CFcIFRQodtw4S5A
She is claiming that it cost $1000 per year for birth control and she thinks every insured american should pay for it.
You don't find this outrageous that she wants others to pay for her to have sex?
Of all the things in the world that others should kick in to pay for you think this should be one of them?
With all the debt we have, this is a priority that everyone be made to pay for her to spread her legs.
Rush is simply illustrating absurdity by being absurd.
If you ever listened to him you would know that, it's a phrase he uses over and over.
What she is asking for is absurd *and offensive*.
Tool-Slinger
03-24-2012, 12:26 AM
Yep, ARP is the bottom of the barrel, and you guys are the gatekeepers.
Thank you, thank you very much.
If everyone here disagrees with you, they may have some points you should consider. Casting insults does not elevate your argument.
Slatts
03-24-2012, 01:00 AM
So you claim there is this massive group of women who spend $1000 per year on "birth control" With a moments shopping you can find condoms for .83 each.
So let's presume that these woman want to have you and I pay for their condoms every time they have sex. And let's just imagine that they have sex every day of the year. If we bought all of their condoms, that's $303.86 per year if they had sex every single day.
Do you remember when you were in your 20s, just getting into a new relationship?
4 or 5 times a day?
I don't know about you, but I didn't recycle.
cool-in-cayman
03-24-2012, 01:58 AM
Do you remember when you were in your 20s, just getting into a new relationship?
4 or 5 times a day?
I don't know about you, but I didn't recycle.
I don't know about you, but I never asked others to pay for my condoms.
Tool-Slinger
03-24-2012, 02:04 AM
4 or 5 times a day?
Wow.
Slatts
03-24-2012, 02:11 AM
Of course, age may have may have confused the memory...
now, was that daily... or yearly?
glennac
03-24-2012, 07:19 AM
Of course, age may have may have confused the memory...
now, was that daily... or yearly?
OK there Statts, what's wrong with taking the pill for 10 cents a day and then you can have sex all day long. Of course if you are having sex with all the men you can have sex with then you need condoms to prevent STD.
That is why she needs that much money for birth control and that is why the girl is a slut or a big liar. Brian refuses to grasp or accept this concept apparently because of his lockstep liberal bias but I hope you can. Thank you, thank you very much
Slatts
03-24-2012, 08:15 AM
OK there Statts, what's wrong with taking the pill for 10 cents a day and then you can have sex all day long. Of course if you are having sex with all the men you can have sex with then you need condoms to prevent STD.
That is why she needs that much money for birth control and that is why the girl is a slut or a big liar. Brian refuses to grasp or accept this concept apparently because of his lockstep liberal bias but I hope you can. Thank you, thank you very much
My original comment was in relation to cools costing basis.
I make no comment about the ladies morals but I would compare them to mine at her age and find she had no case to answer.
My youngest boy has just started at a university 4 hours up the road from here and is living there in a residential college.
He is living in a co-ed dorm.
Among the gear he received on arrival was a pack of condoms.
I imagine they're factored into the sum that I pay for his accommodation.
I'm quite happy about that. the last thing I want is to be a grandfather yet or have a son with a aids or, for that matter any other STD.
You put young people together in that sort of environment and stuff is bound to happen. As responsible adults we need to do everything in our power to see that it doesn't end badly.
I see a good case for the government to supply prophylactics so they don't have to spend a whole lot more of my tax dollars on health care and raising the unwanted children of child mothers.
Oh, and I haven't been having sex with any men Glen :cheers:
glennac
03-24-2012, 08:59 AM
My original comment was in relation to cools costing basis.
I make no comment about the ladies morals but I would compare them to mine at her age and find she had no case to answer.
My youngest boy has just started at a university 4 hours up the road from here and is living there in a residential college.
He is living in a co-ed dorm.
Among the gear he received on arrival was a pack of condoms.
I imagine they're factored into the sum that I pay for his accommodation.
I'm quite happy about that. the last thing I want is to be a grandfather yet or have a son with a aids or, for that matter any other STD.
You put young people together in that sort of environment and stuff is bound to happen. As responsible adults we need to do everything in our power to see that it doesn't end badly.
I see a good case for the government to supply prophylactics so they don't have to spend a whole lot more of my tax dollars on health care and raising the unwanted children of child mothers.
Oh, and I haven't been having sex with any men Glen :cheers:
OK Slatts would you be quite happy sending your daughter to that school where they give free condoms to prevent STD and have sex with every man she can?
Great for the guys I guess but it makes sluts out of all the coeds on campus. Don't want comited relationships or marriage just one big orgy.
Not very healthy for the morals of young girls who will be your future daughters in laws unless open marriages and multiple divorces are acceptabe as norm in the land down under and of course i'm glad to hear you aren't bi. :cheers: :grin2: Thank you, thank you very much
Slatts
03-24-2012, 09:24 AM
OK Slatts would you be quite happy sending your daughter to that school where they give free condoms to prevent STD and have sex with every man she can?
Great for the guys I guess but it makes sluts out of all the coeds on campus. Don't want comited relationships or marriage just one big orgy.
Not very healthy for the morals of young girls who will be your future daughters in laws unless open marriages and multiple divorces are acceptabe as norm in the land down under and of course i'm glad to hear you aren't bi. :cheers: :grin2: Thank you, thank you very much
I have no daughters so can't comment from the position of the father of one.
But. If I did I would hope that I would do all in my power to make sure she was bought up to be discerning in her choice of partners and careful to protect herself.
Children (teenagers) will experiment with relationships. It is their nature.
Once they leave home it all comes down to their grounding that you instilled in them.
Even then, sometimes they make poor decisions.
All you can do is try to protect them from the worst consequences of any bad decisions they may make.
You can't keep your children under your thumb all their life.
glennac
03-24-2012, 09:44 AM
I have no daughters so can't comment from the position of the father of one.
But. If I did I would hope that I would do all in my power to make sure she was bought up to be discerning in her choice of partners and careful to protect herself.
Children (teenagers) will experiment with relationships. It is their nature.
Once they leave home it all comes down to their grounding that you instilled in them.
Even then, sometimes they make poor decisions.
All you can do is try to protect them from the worst consequences of any bad decisions they may make.
You can't keep your children under your thumb all their life.
That is quite true Slatts but that doesn't address the morality or wisdom of passing out condoms freely on campus and or having coed dorms for young folks. Just my opinion. Thank you, thank you very much
Slatts
03-24-2012, 10:00 AM
That is quite true Slatts but that doesn't address the morality or wisdom of passing out condoms freely on campus and or having coed dorms for young folks. Just my opinion. Thank you, thank you very much
I guess that they figure that if they're old enough to vote or fight and die for their country they're old enough to be treated as adults.
For good or ill.
They're 1 to a room and can lock the doors.
Oh, and as for the condoms, I explained my views there in my previous post.
I think it would be more irresponsible and immoral to not hand them out.
glennac
03-24-2012, 10:33 AM
I guess that they figure that if they're old enough to vote or fight and die for their country they're old enough to be treated as adults.
For good or ill.
They're 1 to a room and can lock the doors.
Oh, and as for the condoms, I explained my views there in my previous post.
I think it would be more irresponsible and immoral to not hand them out.
And I think I have also explained by views on the use of condoms which are used commonly to prevent STD when having sex with multiple partners.
Birth control pill, IUDs, etc. are the common means of preventing pregnancy and far less expensive. Thus passing out condoms encourages promuscuity amoung coeds and thus a sluttly lifestyle in my opinion. Rush was right on. Thank you, thank you very much
coolwhip
03-24-2012, 10:50 AM
Huge digression on this thread.:whistle:
glennac
03-24-2012, 11:03 AM
Huge digression on this thread.:whistle:
Hey cool with all due respect the huge digression I believe got started on post # 2. On post # 14, I did address the topic again but it quickly digressed again and I'm just going with the flow here. Good luck on post 86:cheers:. Thank you, thank you very much.
Slatts
03-24-2012, 11:09 AM
uh oh, seems we've been sprung Glen.
Anyway, it's long past my bed time here in Aus.
:grin2:
glennac
03-24-2012, 11:14 AM
uh oh, seems we've been sprung Glen.
Anyway, it's long past my bed time here in Aus.
:grin2:
:cheers::grin2:
cool-in-cayman
03-24-2012, 03:02 PM
My original comment was in relation to cools costing basis.
I make no comment about the ladies morals but I would compare them to mine at her age and find she had no case to answer.
My youngest boy has just started at a university 4 hours up the road from here and is living there in a residential college.
He is living in a co-ed dorm.
Among the gear he received on arrival was a pack of condoms.
I imagine they're factored into the sum that I pay for his accommodation.
I'm quite happy about that. the last thing I want is to be a grandfather yet or have a son with a aids or, for that matter any other STD.
You put young people together in that sort of environment and stuff is bound to happen. As responsible adults we need to do everything in our power to see that it doesn't end badly.
I see a good case for the government to supply prophylactics so they don't have to spend a whole lot more of my tax dollars on health care and raising the unwanted children of child mothers.
Oh, and I haven't been having sex with any men Glen :cheers:
Anyone irresponsible or stupid enough to have unprotected sex when they are either not committed to that person or unable to accept and accomodate the consequences is probably to stupid to know how to pour piss out of a boot.
You could give them a thousand free condoms and they probably wouldn't know which end to put it on.
Everyone else has no problem going to the many convenient stores and getting them on their own time with their own money.
Wow, what a burden.
With this mentality no wonder the western world is going down the tubes.
hearthman
03-24-2012, 04:52 PM
Next thing you know there will be study released claiming the low useage rate of condoms leading to unprotected sex is that the men are untrained and unqualified to properly apply them. Therefore, the government will take it upon themselves to hire professional rubber wranglers to respond code 3 to any male on campus with an erection and penetration imminent. The professional will inspect the 'equipment to ensure it meets government specifications, hold a class in the proper use of the device, the requirement to call him as a licensed hazardous material handler who will also take environmental samples for testing and to register the user's DNA just for the census bureau's records. If a student fails to meet his quota of applications, he will be sent for remedial training in how to score with law students at Georgetown University until they have signed off on him and re-certified him. Then, he will have to attend classes on personal development and sensitivity as he debates between turning gay because he is too awkward to be a stud and score like all the jocks or to go postal and 'do' everyone on the campus. That will send him to grad school for sure....
Tool-Slinger
03-24-2012, 05:04 PM
Next thing you know there will be study released claiming the low useage rate of condoms leading to unprotected sex is that the men are untrained and unqualified to properly apply them. Therefore, the government will take it upon themselves to hire professional rubber wranglers to respond code 3 to any male on campus with an erection and penetration imminent. The professional will inspect the 'equipment to ensure it meets government specifications, hold a class in the proper use of the device, the requirement to call him as a licensed hazardous material handler who will also take environmental samples for testing and to register the user's DNA just for the census bureau's records. If a student fails to meet his quota of applications, he will be sent for remedial training in how to score with law students at Georgetown University until they have signed off on him and re-certified him. Then, he will have to attend classes on personal development and sensitivity as he debates between turning gay because he is too awkward to be a stud and score like all the jocks or to go postal and 'do' everyone on the campus. That will send him to grad school for sure....
Has anyone even looked at the waste / recycling angle?
Brian GC
03-24-2012, 05:40 PM
Since all you guys seem to be pro Rush Limbaugh and think an insurance company should not pay the $20 a month to avoid an unwanted pregnancy when they charge that family $20,000 a year for coverage do you also think the elimination of sex education in public schools is a good decision too? Heck, they can all get it from a book, right?
I'm holding on to my seat for these replies.
Tool-Slinger
03-24-2012, 06:07 PM
Since all you guys seem to be pro Rush Limbaugh and think an insurance company should not pay the $20 a month to avoid an unwanted pregnancy when they charge that family $20,000 a year for coverage do you also think the elimination of sex education in public schools is a good decision too? Heck, they can all get it from a book, right?
I'm holding on to my seat for these replies.
That is so far off topic I cannot imagine how an answer can be rendered. Maybe you should start a new thread?
Gib's Son
03-24-2012, 06:19 PM
That is so far off topic I cannot imagine how an answer can be rendered. Maybe you should start a new thread?
I'll give it a try:
The ghost of Belle Starr she hands down her wits
To Jezebel the nun she violently knits
A bald wig for Jack the Ripper who sits
At the head of the chamber of commerce
Brian GC
03-24-2012, 06:22 PM
If you just go back few dozen posts you will find it is very on-topic.
Tool-Slinger
03-24-2012, 06:24 PM
:cheers::hijacked::putergreet:
I'll give it a try:
The ghost of Belle Starr she hands down her wits
To Jezebel the nun she violently knits
A bald wig for Jack the Ripper who sits
At the head of the chamber of commerce
I vehemently disagree with the wig!
glennac
03-24-2012, 08:23 PM
Since all you guys seem to be pro Rush Limbaugh and think an insurance company should not pay the $20 a month to avoid an unwanted pregnancy when they charge that family $20,000 a year for coverage do you also think the elimination of sex education in public schools is a good decision too? Heck, they can all get it from a book, right?
I'm holding on to my seat for these replies.
What are you on Brian and how many times do you need to be told that she spends $20 a week or $1000 a year or $3000 for 3 years. Not $20 a month.
Give us a break and a least pay attention and stop trying to spend what she spends. She is a slut and won't use cheap birth control pills but needs at least 3 or 4 condoms every day for her sex train so she won't get VD.
Not like she has a steady and can use pills. Do yo understand now or do I need to repeat this every time you post. Thank you, thank you very much
acmanko
03-25-2012, 09:43 AM
all are jezebels, some more than others.
jmac00
03-25-2012, 07:05 PM
Jmac's definition of a SLUT!!!
A women with the morals of a man.
a man goes out whoring all night, while drunk and no one seems to care. A women does the same thing and it a big deal
what double standard we have:putergreet:
ControlsInMT
03-26-2012, 08:57 AM
What are you on Brian and how many times do you need to be told that she spends $20 a week or $1000 a year or $3000 for 3 years. Not $20 a month.
Give us a break and a least pay attention and stop trying to spend what she spends. She is a slut and won't use cheap birth control pills but needs at least 3 or 4 condoms every day for her sex train so she won't get VD.
Not like she has a steady and can use pills. Do yo understand now or do I need to repeat this every time you post. Thank you, thank you very much
Yep Brian is giving it his best left spin again! $360 by his figure but she is claiming $1000 a year. I believe someone else already questioned as to why she just didn't go to planned parenthood? Oh wait that is government supported so we are already paying for birthcontrol she could use! :gah::censored:
jmac00
03-26-2012, 09:08 AM
maaaaan, where girls like this when I was out trolling and bar hopping???:gah:
aaah the 70's where a grand time :grin2: I don't remember much of it, but I do remember having a good time:angel:
acmanko
03-26-2012, 05:42 PM
maaaaan, where girls like this when I was out trolling and bar hopping???:gah:
aaah the 70's where a grand time :grin2: I don't remember much of it, but I do remember having a good time:angel:
Yea, they were out there:grin2:
Gib's Son
03-26-2012, 09:13 PM
Yea, they were out there:grin2:
Me's don't think I would want the women you slept with.....I've seen your picture.:grin2:
glennac
03-26-2012, 10:17 PM
Me's don't think I would want the women you slept with.....I've seen your picture.:grin2:
Who said they were women? LOL :bump::gah::grin2: Yeah to much drugs can do that to ya. Heard that ace was rode hard and hung up wet.:bump::grin2::whistle: Thank you, thank you very much
acmanko
03-28-2012, 07:38 AM
paper bag
jmac00
03-28-2012, 08:00 AM
hey, at 2am, all females look hot. It's 9am the next day that puts everyone in a panic :whistle:
glennac
03-28-2012, 08:41 PM
paper bag
Yeah ace but what do they use? Valium, oxycodone, morphine, etc. or just get crazy drunk? :bump::gah::cheers::whistle: Thank you, thank you very much
acmanko
03-29-2012, 10:07 AM
Yeah ace but what do they use? Valium, oxycodone, morphine, etc. or just get crazy drunk? :bump::gah::cheers::whistle: Thank you, thank you very much
Who knows. I wore a paper bag, it's the only thing that fit:cheers:
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