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Rob_in_WV
03-06-2012, 09:09 AM
I know it's a day or so late.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYrCF5jPsVM

fixacr
03-06-2012, 09:23 AM
The liberal media is doing its version of the "happy dance" over Rush's current situation.

Brian GC
03-06-2012, 10:18 AM
The liberal media is doing its version of the "happy dance" over Rush's current situation.

Rush meant every word he said and is only apologizing now because it’s costing him money.

What he said was over the top and inaccurate but let’s see any one of the cowards on the right have the guts to publicly criticize him for it.

He is nothing more than a blowhard shock jock. This country will never get better with people like him in control.

cehs
03-06-2012, 10:44 AM
Rush meant every word he said and is only apologizing now because it’s costing him money.
That may be true.
What he said was over the top and inaccurate but let’s see any one of the cowards on the right have the guts to publicly criticize him for it.
It was NOT inaccurate, SHE is a slut for having sex outside of marriage, and the WORST part is she wants YOU to pay for it.
RUSH just blasted her verbally which was NOT tactful. He used the wrong words, for which he apologized.
He is nothing more than a blowhard shock jock. This country will never get better with people like him in control.
He is the WATCHDOG of conservatism, which is what we NEED.

I just do not agree with liberal thinking.
.

Brian GC
03-06-2012, 11:09 AM
I just do not agree with liberal thinking.
.

I don’t agree with a lot of liberal thinking either but to call all women and men who have sex outside of marriage sluts is extreme. And, how do we know she is having sex outside of marriage? Why is it suddenly about her? Besides, what are we talking here for the cost of those pills, ten bucks a month? Its money well spent to avoid an unwanted pregnancy. If a woman can’t afford the pill, how can she afford a baby?

Oh ya, just tell them not to have sex.

BTW - Rush's apology is empty and meaningless. He should have done it before his sponsors dropped him.

fixacr
03-06-2012, 01:35 PM
Rush meant every word he said and is only apologizing now because it’s costing him money.

What he said was over the top and inaccurate but let’s see any one of the cowards on the right have the guts to publicly criticize him for it.

He is nothing more than a blowhard shock jock. This country will never get better with people like him in control.

I made no reference whatsoever as to whether or not I think that what Mr. Limbaugh said was right or wrong at any level.

I simply meant that the liberal media has hated him from the beginning and are beside themselves with glee at his present situation.

P.S. I was not aware that he was "in control" of anything other than a radio show.

fixacr
03-06-2012, 02:13 PM
I don’t agree with a lot of liberal thinking either but to call all women and men who have sex outside of marriage sluts is extreme. And, how do we know she is having sex outside of marriage? Why is it suddenly about her? Besides, what are we talking here for the cost of those pills, ten bucks a month? Its money well spent to avoid an unwanted pregnancy. If a woman can’t afford the pill, how can she afford a baby?

Oh ya, just tell them not to have sex.

BTW - Rush's apology is empty and meaningless. He should have done it before his sponsors dropped him.

So let me get this straight. If she can't afford the pills, it's up to you and me to pay for them? If we don't pay for the pills, we have to pay for the child? If the pills don't work, it's still up to you and me to pay for the child?

Where is the personal responsibility? Only $10 a month? Pass up a couple of packs of cigarettes and SURPRISE she can afford the pills.

And don't make light of abstinence. It's the only method that is 100% guaranteed to prevent pregnancy. Of course, in today's thinking that is an unreasonable thing to ask.

Brian GC
03-06-2012, 04:33 PM
I made no reference whatsoever...

But you made strong inferences through your choice of words and descriptions.

When you say the left is experiencing “glee”, that the media is really the “liberal media”, and that Rush Limbaugh does not have extreme influence in the Republican Party to the point of having substantial ‘control’, then you aren’t being coy about your position. You are putting it out there.

WebCTRL
03-06-2012, 04:58 PM
Originally Posted by Brian GC
He is nothing more than a blowhard shock jock. This country will never get better with people like him in control.


I just do not agree with liberal thinking.
.

CEHS, I agree with you. Rush was correct in what his premise was, just not tactful in the delivery. At least partly correct, she is a leftist liberal activist woman of ill repute!

Besides, the "blowhard shock jock" is not in control of this country, is he? Brian GC says that he is in control of this country, I guess I missed that part, I thought Obama and his puppeteer(s) were "in control".

WebCTRL
03-06-2012, 05:03 PM
But you made strong inferences through your choice of words and descriptions.

When you say the left is experiencing “glee”, that the media is really the “liberal media”, and that Rush Limbaugh does not have extreme influence in the Republican Party to the point of having substantial ‘control’, then you aren’t being coy about your position. You are putting it out there.

First off, get your facts straight on who this lady is and what her motivation was/is. She is an activist. I don't owe her, nor does anyone owe her contracetpion. It's her choice, they she can pay for it.

And, to get it right, you infer, fixacr can't infer to you, you do the inferring. Just sayin'.

Oh yeah, and Rush, exerting control on the republican party, HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! They can't stand the guy. If they listened to his suggestions, they would be much more conservative and, in fact, more effective!

SolarMike
03-06-2012, 05:24 PM
I just do not agree with liberal thinking.
.

Did you have sex before marriage? Are you then a slut and should you then be degraded in public. Forget that she went public with the fact that she even has a sex life.

Can any male here say they did NOT have any sex before marriage? Few, I'll bet. She does not deserve to be called a slut any more than we men should.

WebCTRL
03-06-2012, 05:42 PM
Did you have sex before marriage? Are you then a slut and should you then be degraded in public. Forget that she went public with the fact that she even has a sex life.

Can any male here say they did NOT have any sex before marriage? Few, I'll bet. She does not deserve to be called a slut any more than we men should.

If you stand up and profess that you ARE, then you ARE. You say you are, then I'll agree. If I tell you that I AM, then I'm fine with you saying I AM.

She clearly said what she did, as if she is proud of it, so then, why is she mad about it now! I mean, by definition, a slut is:

Slut or slattern is a term applied to an individual who is considered to have loose sexual morals or who is sexually promiscuous. The term is generally pejorative and often applied to women as an insult or offensive term of disparagement, meaning "dirty or slovenly."[1] However some women have demonstrated saying they're proud of being "sluts", and have given it a positive connotation.[2][3]

(From Wikipedia)

SolarMike
03-06-2012, 05:59 PM
But if it is so ordinary and, whether we stand up and profess it or not, we all (or most of us) are then "sluts" and there is no story here. If you are pissed off that she wants someone other than her to pay for her birth control, that is one thing and the slut term is just a distraction.

WebCTRL
03-06-2012, 06:11 PM
But if it is so ordinary and, whether we stand up and profess it or not, we all (or most of us) are then "sluts" and there is no story here. If you are pissed off that she wants someone other than her to pay for her birth control, that is one thing and the slut term is just a distraction.

OK, I'm good with that. The slut is a ditraction from the real fact(s) and yes, I am pissed, that it would even be a consideration to force coverage of "contraceptives" on anyone! Let's be serious, it's not what Obama claims, to make them available. They are available, even in our schools. So it's all a distraction from what they are trying to do, little by little.

Brian GC
03-06-2012, 06:32 PM
Don’t many health insurance companies already pay for Viagra? Where is the outrage there? Viagra increases sexual contact, is far more expensive and leads to unwanted pregnancies while birth control pills reduce unwanted pregnancies.

And about Rush, if the republicans really hate him then why isn't there any republican out there that will call him on this publicly, not even Michelle Bachman will do it.

There will be no republican president without him first endorsing them. That is power.

infwsdm
03-06-2012, 06:47 PM
Don’t many health insurance companies already pay for Viagra? Where is the outrage there? Viagra increases sexual contact, is far more expensive and leads to unwanted pregnancies while birth control pills reduce unwanted pregnancies.

And about Rush, if the republicans really hate him then why isn't there any republican out there that will call him on this publicly, not even Michelle Bachman will do it.

There will be no republican president without him first endorsing them. That is power.


This is about the government mandating the church to do something which goes against it's beliefs.

'the pill' is available to anyone who wants it already. A persons 12 year old daughter can come home with them without parents even knowing about it!

Rush is an entertainer. If he had so much power then he would be president. Rush called someone a slut. woopdee dooo. So hey media, focus on the slut and don't cover the issues at hand...what a backwards world we live in.

Brian GC
03-06-2012, 07:11 PM
This is about the government mandating the church to do something which goes against it's beliefs.

Huh?


'the pill' is available to anyone who wants it already. A person’s 12 year old daughter can come home with them without parents even knowing about it!

And that is a good thing since a lot of parents cannot broach the subject and are not aware of their child’s activities.


Rush is an entertainer.

No he isn’t, he delivers news to tens of millions of people daily. I hear that stuff about them being commentators but it is bull. They know they are functionally news casters to most of their audience but hide behind the commentator title.


If he had so much power then he would be president.

As we have seen, Rush is about the money. He would make a fraction of his current income as president. Beside he is unelectable being an extremist.

Oh, and you conveniently forgot to respond to my Viagra comment.

Gib's Son
03-06-2012, 07:47 PM
Don’t many health insurance companies already pay for Viagra? Where is the outrage there? Viagra increases sexual contact, is far more expensive and leads to unwanted pregnancies while birth control pills reduce unwanted pregnancies.

And about Rush, if the republicans really hate him then why isn't there any republican out there that will call him on this publicly, not even Michelle Bachman will do it.

There will be no republican president without him first endorsing them. That is power.

A bunch of hot air post without any factual information or links. I could be wrong because I can go years without listening to him, but let's see you come up with one credible bit of information to substantiate your claims that Rush has ever endorsed anyone for President...during a Primary. I bet if I researched it, I would find him criticizing the GOP over McCain nomination. Same with your claims on Viagra, not the cost portion.

infwsdm
03-06-2012, 07:48 PM
Huh?

You don't have a clue I see


And that is a good thing since a lot of parents cannot broach the subject and are not aware of their child’s activities.

So take away all parental rights and responsibilities of all parents. perfect

No he isn’t, he delivers news to tens of millions of people daily. I hear that stuff about them being commentators but it is bull. They know they are functionally news casters to most of their audience but hide behind the commentator title.
He is not by any means a newscaster. His show is about his opinion on the issues he talks about.


As we have seen, Rush is about the money. He would make a fraction of his current income as president. Beside he is unelectable being an extremist.
extremist, war against women, hateful, attacking blah blah blah.
Oh, and you conveniently forgot to respond to my Viagra comment.


You have got to be kidding me! Your 'viagra comment' is not very well thought out and has nothing to do with the issue, which you are clueless about

cehs
03-06-2012, 08:54 PM
From dictionary dot com
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/slut
slut
   [sluht] Show IPA
noun
1.
a dirty, slovenly woman.
2.
an immoral or dissolute woman; prostitute.

She admitted to the committee that she (a single woman) was having so much sex that she could NOT afford birth control (claiming that it was costing her $3500 per year).
That is a lot of sex. IF she used condoms, that would be multiple times EACH DAY. If she used an IUD or other control, I do not know what would cost THAT MUCH.
Now why is she asking YOU and I to pay for that? She is an activist.
She is lobbying for more taxes to go for LIBERAL issues.
Is she a slut? What difference does that make to the liberals?
Should she expect others to pay for contraception? Why not ask the men she claims she has sex with to pay for contraception?
Why not go to planned parenthood and ask for FREE contraception?
I do not claim to have her answer, I just do not want to pay for her PROBLEMS/decisions....
.

printer2
03-06-2012, 09:38 PM
OK, I confess. I am a closet slut.


Boy that felt good.

Brian GC
03-06-2012, 10:00 PM
A bunch of hot air post without any factual information

Since when people do not use facts to form opinions? If that was the case you would see people get informed and change their minds on these types of threads. I’ve never seen it happen yet. Most of Limbaugh's and Chris Matthew's audience believes what they say before the words even come out of their mouths.

Gib's Son
03-06-2012, 10:07 PM
OK, I confess. I am a closet slut.


Boy that felt good.

PM sent.....good to see you!

Gib's Son
03-06-2012, 10:22 PM
Since when people do not use facts to form opinions? If that was the case you would see people get informed and change their minds on these types of threads. I’ve never seen it happen yet. Most of Limbaugh's and Chris Matthew's audience believes what they say before the words even come out of their mouths.

More blather and opinion, other than fact or proof (links), you re-direct and ignore the previous challenge I proposed.

Brian GC
03-07-2012, 12:09 AM
More blather and opinion, other than fact or proof (links), you re-direct and ignore the previous challenge I proposed.

If you are not aware of Rush Limbaugh's influence in the Republican Party you are completely out of touch and will require someone greater than me to teach you that.

Last night I watched Pierce Morgan ask Michelle Bachman what she thought of his comments. She looked like a deer in headlights and was speechless, then changed the subject.

I happen to learn from encounters like that. You probably don't.

cool-in-cayman
03-07-2012, 12:26 AM
I am offended and outraged that this person who has so much sex that it is causing her to go broke is no now asking me to pay for her to have sex. That pisses me off.
This moron woman stepped out in front of a bus, of course she's gonna get rolled over.

Rush pissed off the liberals by doing what he always does. He illustrates absurdity by being absurd. And by telling the truth, something many liberals really hate.

What's amazing is that people can pretty much demand to be entitled to most anything and people like brianGC seem to think it's super duper.

I don't recall Obama calling Laura Ingram, or Sarah Palin, when one was called a slut and the other a c u next tuesday.

cool-in-cayman
03-07-2012, 12:49 AM
If you are not aware of Rush Limbaugh's influence in the Republican Party you are completely out of touch and will require someone greater than me to teach you that.

Last night I watched Pierce Morgan ask Michelle Bachman what she thought of his comments. She looked like a deer in headlights and was speechless, then changed the subject.

I happen to learn from encounters like that. You probably don't.

Did you actually watch the interview with Michele Bachman or are you simply repeating the huffington post talking points?

She was far from speechless in the interview.

i report, you decide.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2N3IRa9QS8

cool-in-cayman
03-07-2012, 01:04 AM
I know it's a day or so late.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYrCF5jPsVM

Newt doing what he does best. Flippin the script. He would crush obama. The debates would be embarrassing for libs.

Brian GC
03-07-2012, 01:18 AM
Did you actually watch the interview with Michele Bachman or are you simply repeating the huffington post talking points?

She was far from speechless in the interview.


I didn’t say she was speechless in her interview. She was speechless when asked to comment on Rush.

Yes I did watch it and she was an embarrassment to the Republican Party IMO. Pierce hit it on the head when he accused her of dodging all of his questions. I was waiting for her to get up and storm off like she usually does. The magazine portrayal of crazy-eyes was a perfect self portrait of her, though I do agree with her fiscal conservancy stances.

Maybe you could ponder this. Why is it ok for an insurance company to pay for annual health exams to avoid further expenses but it isn’t ok for them to provide an inexpensive birth control pill to avoid further expenses, unwanted children, abortions and a possible welfare burden to the taxpayer?

cool-in-cayman
03-07-2012, 01:31 AM
I didn’t say she was speechless in her interview. She was speechless when asked to comment on Rush.

She wasn't speechless when she commented about the rush controversy...You sure you watched it?


Maybe you could ponder this. Why is it ok for an insurance company to pay for annual health exams to avoid further expenses but it isn’t ok for them to provide an inexpensive birth control pill to avoid further expenses, unwanted children, abortions and a possible welfare burden to the taxpayer?

Nobody is saying it's not ok for insurance to cover whatever it is they want to offer in coverage.

The argument is whether or not anyone should be forced to pay for others birth control

The difference you see is in the mentality. People like you don't have problem reaching into the pockets of others for birth control. People like me have a big problem with that. Where does it end?

cehs
03-07-2012, 07:26 AM
I didn’t say she was speechless in her interview. She was speechless when asked to comment on Rush.

Yes I did watch it and she was an embarrassment to the Republican Party IMO. Pierce hit it on the head when he accused her of dodging all of his questions. I was waiting for her to get up and storm off like she usually does. The magazine portrayal of crazy-eyes was a perfect self portrait of her, though I do agree with her fiscal conservancy stances.

Maybe you could ponder this. Why is it ok for an insurance company to pay for annual health exams to avoid further expenses but it isn’t ok for them to provide an inexpensive birth control pill to avoid further expenses, unwanted children, abortions and a possible welfare burden to the taxpayer?

I don't think she was asking for an insurance company for money, she was asking TAX PAYERS to pay for contraception.
If she couldn't afford $3500 for contraception, how could she afford insurance premiums?
If she was sincere in her request and not just making a point for the libbies, why wouldn't she seek help elsewhere FIRST before going to the government?
.

hearthman
03-07-2012, 08:24 AM
Carbonite's stock dropped 12% in the wake of their pulling ads from Rush as investors blasted the company for being so liberal. That's the free market and they got what they deserved. Both Rush and is sponsors will bounce back in spite of the liberal press trying to do otherwise.

acmanko
03-07-2012, 08:33 AM
I like sluts

coolwhip
03-07-2012, 08:35 AM
Go Rush!:cheers:

acmanko
03-07-2012, 08:39 AM
Only in America, a drug addict preaching to sluts.

Gib's Son
03-07-2012, 08:50 AM
Only in America, a drug addict preaching to sluts.

Don't you beleive a recoverying addict deserves a 2nd chance? That's not very liberal minded thinking.

texas cooler
03-07-2012, 08:53 AM
Only in America, a drug addict preaching to sluts.

...and a democracy led by a Marxist.

coolwhip
03-07-2012, 09:19 AM
...and a democracy led by a Marxist.

Excellent!:cheers:

coolwhip
03-07-2012, 09:20 AM
Only in America, a drug addict preaching to sluts.

Whats your excuse?

acmanko
03-07-2012, 09:54 AM
Whats your excuse?

I was born this way, what's yours?

acmanko
03-07-2012, 09:57 AM
Don't you beleive a recoverying addict deserves a 2nd chance? That's not very liberal minded thinking.

No, he had his chance, pain or pills. He chose pills, put a bottle of oxy in front of him and recovering would no longer apply. He's a conservative, his will power should be better

acmanko
03-07-2012, 09:58 AM
...and a democracy led by a Marxist.

4 more years

coolwhip
03-07-2012, 10:05 AM
"I was born this way"

So you were born with the liberal disease? This proves that it is inherent and obviously a degenerative mental impairment.
The only cure for you is to sever that cord that connects your arss to your brain so you quit talking sheit. :whistle:

Brian GC
03-07-2012, 10:16 AM
She wasn't speechless when she commented about the rush controversy...You sure you watched it?

I will rephrase. He asker her if she thought his comments were over the top. She would not agree in any way. She dodged it.



Nobody is saying it's not ok for insurance to cover whatever it is they want to offer in coverage.

The argument is whether or not anyone should be forced to pay for others birth control

When an insurance company decides to cover something, aren’t they reaching into the pockets of the insured to pay for it? What’s the difference?

Don’t we as taxpayers already pay for birth control pills through Planned Parenthood and free clinic type facilities?

Obamacare has forced insurance companies to provide certain coverage. Wasn’t she asking Obama to add one more item to the list?

acmanko
03-07-2012, 03:16 PM
I hope they quit discriminating against men and make insurance pay for viagra and cialas

WebCTRL
03-08-2012, 12:42 PM
Oh, and you conveniently forgot to respond to my Viagra comment.

Viagra is not forced on the insurance companies, they can choose to cover it, but I'll bet you any prescription has a copay? So your viagra comment is useless. Is isn't being forced coverage on everyone with a zero copay.

WebCTRL
03-08-2012, 12:46 PM
Since when people do not use facts to form opinions? If that was the case you would see people get informed and change their minds on these types of threads. I’ve never seen it happen yet. Most of Limbaugh's and Chris Matthew's audience believes what they say before the words even come out of their mouths.

Hey, I've learned on these threads! Even had BACnet school me on a subject that absolutely changed my mind. It does happen to some. I have absolutely seen comments to that effect on here.

You think that way because you feel that way, huh?

acmanko
03-08-2012, 04:34 PM
paranoia is the word you are looking for

tunnel_rat
03-08-2012, 05:29 PM
If this "woman" can't affford her lifestyle, I no more need to supplement it than she needs to buy my Jim Beam. Live within your means. Why the hell is this concept so foreign to the left? Because they have been programmed to think this way thru public schools and the PC media.

dudeabides
03-08-2012, 05:53 PM
And don't make light of abstinence. It's the only method that is 100% guaranteed to prevent pregnancy. Of course, in today's thinking that is an unreasonable thing to ask.


I just do not agree with liberal thinking.
.

You gotta to be kidding me.

dudeabides
03-08-2012, 05:59 PM
Ther bigger issue here is freedom of speech. The media of all people should know this. I, for one, can't stand Limbaugh. He's a right wing gas bag. But he should be able to say whatever he wants to. Even if it's stupid.

SolarMike
03-08-2012, 06:11 PM
Try this on for size since the topic has turned to Viagra:

Bill modeled after similar legislation to help women make informed decisions

s25.jpg(Columbus) -State Senator Nina Turner (D-Cleveland) announced legislation today that would protect men in Ohio from the risks of PDE-5 inhibitors, drugs commonly used to treat symptoms of impotence. Turner's legislation would include provisions to document that the symptoms are not psychological in nature, and would guide men to make the right decision for their bodies. Physicians would be required to obtain a second opinion from a psychological professional to verify that a patient has a true medical malady before the medication could be prescribed.

"The men in our lives, including members of the General Assembly, generously devote time to fundamental female reproductive issues--the least we can do is return the favor," Senator Turner said. "It is crucial that we take the appropriate steps to shelter vulnerable men from the potential side effects of these drugs."

The legislation follows the FDA's recommendation that the evaluation of erectile dysfunction should include a determination of potential underlying causes and the identification of appropriate treatment following a complete medical assessment. Similar bills to more closely regulate reproductive health issues have been introduced in the state legislatures of Virginia, Oklahoma, Idaho, and most recently Pennsylvania.

"When a man makes a crucial decision about his health and his body, he should be fully aware of the alternative options and the lifetime repercussions of that decision," Senator Turner said today. Men will be more easily guided through the process of obtaining treatment for impotence so they can better understand and more effectively address their condition.

PDE-5 inhibitors can carry serious side effects such as priapism, hearing loss, and vision loss, and can be detrimental to men with heart problems, including heart pain, abnormal heart rhythms, high or low blood pressure, or a history of stroke.

"By implementing more intensive screenings before prescribing the medication and requiring outpatient educational services, we can do more to prevent the potential side effects linked to PDE-5 inhibitors," Senator Turner explained. "We must advocate for the traditional family, protect the sanctity of procreation, and ensure that all men using PDE-5 inhibitors are healthy, stable, and educated about their options--including celibacy as a viable life choice. This legislation will do just that."

tunnel_rat
03-08-2012, 06:48 PM
Ther bigger issue here is freedom of speech. The media of all people should know this. I, for one, can't stand Limbaugh. He's a right wing gas bag. But he should be able to say whatever he wants to. Even if it's stupid.

Some chick who wants taxpayer dollars buying her rubbers is not a freedom of speech issue. Nice to hear you admit that Limbaugh has a right to speak though. That's all he does. He doesn't have the power to raise your taxes, send you to war, tell you what to feed your kids, decide if you are worthy of health care or not. He has no affect on the economy, (except for sponsers who make a killing). He cannot decide to put thousands out of work by not singing legislation that would put them to work. He cannot appoint judges who will have a detrimental effect on this country for decades. In short, some dude on the radio is not the problem....the dude in control IS. Don't be like the media and try and deflect the real issues we face as a nation, free a bit still for now.

dudeabides
03-08-2012, 07:19 PM
Some chick who wants taxpayer dollars buying her rubbers is not a freedom of speech issue. Don't be like the media and try and deflect the real issues we face as a nation, free a bit still for now.

I didn't say it was. I'm saying that Limbaugh getting strung up because of his words is more of an issue than the rubbers. I'm not deflecting anything. Everyones up in arms about this girl wanting taxpayer money for birth control?? The government spends your tax money on a lot worse things than that.

tunnel_rat
03-08-2012, 07:27 PM
Right. That's the problem.......Let's try and not make it worse.....

Rob_in_WV
03-08-2012, 07:38 PM
Try this on for size since the topic has turned to Viagra:

Bill modeled after similar legislation to help women make informed decisions

s25.jpg(Columbus) -State Senator Nina Turner (D-Cleveland) announced legislation today that would protect men in Ohio from the risks of PDE-5 inhibitors, drugs commonly used to treat symptoms of impotence. Turner's legislation would include provisions to document that the symptoms are not psychological in nature, and would guide men to make the right decision for their bodies. Physicians would be required to obtain a second opinion from a psychological professional to verify that a patient has a true medical malady before the medication could be prescribed.

"The men in our lives, including members of the General Assembly, generously devote time to fundamental female reproductive issues--the least we can do is return the favor," Senator Turner said. "It is crucial that we take the appropriate steps to shelter vulnerable men from the potential side effects of these drugs."

The legislation follows the FDA's recommendation that the evaluation of erectile dysfunction should include a determination of potential underlying causes and the identification of appropriate treatment following a complete medical assessment. Similar bills to more closely regulate reproductive health issues have been introduced in the state legislatures of Virginia, Oklahoma, Idaho, and most recently Pennsylvania.

"When a man makes a crucial decision about his health and his body, he should be fully aware of the alternative options and the lifetime repercussions of that decision," Senator Turner said today. Men will be more easily guided through the process of obtaining treatment for impotence so they can better understand and more effectively address their condition.

PDE-5 inhibitors can carry serious side effects such as priapism, hearing loss, and vision loss, and can be detrimental to men with heart problems, including heart pain, abnormal heart rhythms, high or low blood pressure, or a history of stroke.

"By implementing more intensive screenings before prescribing the medication and requiring outpatient educational services, we can do more to prevent the potential side effects linked to PDE-5 inhibitors," Senator Turner explained. "We must advocate for the traditional family, protect the sanctity of procreation, and ensure that all men using PDE-5 inhibitors are healthy, stable, and educated about their options--including celibacy as a viable life choice. This legislation will do just that."

See the highlighted part? Interesting if a woman can't afford drugs for sexual purposes we need to provide them, but a man can't afford something to get an erection then maybe he needs to consider celibacy, but not the woman.

SolarMike
03-08-2012, 08:06 PM
See the highlighted part? Interesting if a woman can't afford drugs for sexual purposes we need to provide them, but a man can't afford something to get an erection then maybe he needs to consider celibacy, but not the woman.

If I read your comment correctly, That quote was taken way out of context.

The point of the legislation is that if govt is paying for his viagra, he should go through the same prescreening that women must do to get any govt help. Level playing field.

Brian GC
03-08-2012, 09:53 PM
Some chick who wants taxpayer dollars buying her rubbers is not a freedom of speech issue. Nice to hear you admit that Limbaugh has a right to speak though. That's all he does. He doesn't have the power to raise your taxes, send you to war, tell you what to feed your kids, decide if you are worthy of health care or not. He has no affect on the economy, (except for sponsers who make a killing). He cannot decide to put thousands out of work by not singing legislation that would put them to work. He cannot appoint judges who will have a detrimental effect on this country for decades. In short, some dude on the radio is not the problem....the dude in control IS. Don't be like the media and try and deflect the real issues we face as a nation, free a bit still for now.

You underestimate the influence extreme opinion has on feeble minded people. Those type of people are not only on the other side of the isle, they’re in your camp too.

Rob_in_WV
03-08-2012, 11:31 PM
If I read your comment correctly, That quote was taken way out of context.

The point of the legislation is that if govt is paying for his viagra, he should go through the same prescreening that women must do to get any govt help. Level playing field.

Mike after rereading it I think you might be correct sir. My bad.

tunnel_rat
03-08-2012, 11:32 PM
You underestimate the influence extreme opinion has on feeble minded people. Those type of people are not only on the other side of the isle, they’re in your camp too.
I don't underestimate that at all...it's all too clear. All I can do is hope to
enlighten them as to where their prosperity and freedom is going to come from. It sure ain't from Dear Leader Barry Hussein Obama. What has he done to help this country? That is his job, I think. He'd be fired in a week where I work....

Brian GC
03-09-2012, 12:02 AM
What has he done to help this country?

I am by no means a fan of Obama, I think he above anything else is unqualified and too liberal but I have to ask. What has he done to hurt this country besides screw up healthcare? Your answer must be in comparison to the Syrian and Iranian wars that McCain would have us in right now.

scrogdog
03-09-2012, 12:09 AM
Your answer must be in comparison to the Syrian and Iranian wars that McCain would have us in right now.

Eh? This is by no means assured, but I certainly can be surprised just like anyone.

For example, benefit to the U.S. in return for expenditure of resources in Libya?

Issues like this will never be precisely resolved unless and until the US stops participating in "speculative ventures". No matter who is "in power" at the time.

Brian GC
03-09-2012, 11:26 AM
Eh? This is by no means assured, .

McCain could not pass up the temptation of at least dropping Tomahawk cruise missiles on those nuclear installations. After that, all hell would break loose.

The difference between him and Bush Jr. is that he should know better.

Rob_in_WV
03-09-2012, 03:10 PM
McCain could not pass up the temptation of at least dropping Tomahawk cruise missiles on those nuclear installations. After that, all hell would break loose.

The difference between him and Bush Jr. is that he should know better.

Here I go slightly off topic, but I don't think we're gonna have to deal with Iran, They will get a nuke and try to shoot it at Israel, Israel will most likely knock it out of the sky before it gets there, and then they will march across the desert and give Iran the greatest beating in it's entire history. :.02:

dudeabides
03-09-2012, 06:29 PM
Here I go slightly off topic, but I don't think we're gonna have to deal with Iran, They will get a nuke and try to shoot it at Israel, Israel will most likely knock it out of the sky before it gets there, and then they will march across the desert and give Iran the greatest beating in it's entire history. :.02:

Why do WE have to?

acmanko
03-09-2012, 07:03 PM
because

Brian GC
03-09-2012, 07:16 PM
Here I go slightly off topic, but I don't think we're gonna have to deal with Iran, They will get a nuke and try to shoot it at Israel, Israel will most likely knock it out of the sky before it gets there, and then they will march across the desert and give Iran the greatest beating in it's entire history. :.02:

I think the Saudis have more to fear than Israel. Our news tells us that Israel is their first target but I don’t buy it. They say that just to get our sympathy for Israel.

I just heard that the Saudis buy off more people in Washington than Israel/Jews do. What they get for their money is protection and anonymity, not to mention inflated oil profits.

If Iran attacked Israel it would be certain defeat and they know it. But they could invade Saudi Arabia and we would be the only ones to stop it. That is our big fear.

We are used to hearing about poor Israel. Besides what would they gain from attacking Israel and when was the last time they said they were interested in that? They have a lot more to gain from attacking the Saudi Royal Family.

Remember what that Iranian Military Officer said when asked what he learned from the US/Iraq war. He said, “Don’t go to war with the US unless you are a nuclear power”. They know our military tactics with them would be very different if they had nukes.

Rob_in_WV
03-09-2012, 07:51 PM
Why do WE have to?

We don't have to deal with them, My opinion what WE need to do is get out of the Middle East's problems and stay out because regardless of what we do they will still hate us, so I say we save our money and most importantly our brave men and womens lives and stay home.

dudeabides
03-09-2012, 08:01 PM
because
haha. Well played, sir.

dudeabides
03-09-2012, 08:03 PM
We don't have to deal with them, My opinion what WE need to do is get out of the Middle East's problems and stay out because regardless of what we do they will still hate us, so I say we save our money and most importantly our brave men and womens lives and stay home.
I agree.