Tramp

[Gib's Son]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/post/obama-calls-sandra-fluke-georgetown-law-student-assailed-by-rush-limbaugh/2012/03/02/gIQAIoW0mR_blog.html?tid=pm_politics_pop

I'm refraining from using the S word.

And of course the POS POTUS calls her on the phone to show his support, which is nothing more than showing his lack of moral standards, once again, and sticking his nose in an area that the POTUS should not stick his nose in.

[glennac]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/post/obama-calls-sandra-fluke-georgetown-law-student-assailed-by-rush-limbaugh/2012/03/02/gIQAIoW0mR_blog.html?tid=pm_politics_pop

I'm refraining from using the S word.

And of course the POS POTUS calls her on the phone to show his support, which is nothing more than showing his lack of moral standards, once again, and sticking his nose in an area that the POTUS should not stick his nose in.

You got that right. I actually support Rush on this. Why should or tax payer dollars go for recreational sex by promiscuous women and men. They should pay for their fornication themselves and not put us further in dept for their fun.

Georgetown is a Catholic university and Obama's health care plan wants the school to pay for fortification by its students. I would think they would be outraged as I a taxpayer am also.

I think Rush's comment was right on target. That is if you want us to pay for your promiscuity then tape your fornications and let us the taxpayers watch for free. Obama is no Christian but anti Christian in my opinion. Thank you very much

[Gib's Son]

then tape your fornications and let us the taxpayers watch for free. Obama is no Christian but anti Christian in my opinion. Thank you very much

Ewwwww, I could have done without that visualization. :gah:

[k-fridge]

Rush was right about his opposition to it, but the name calling was over the line. He does that to attract attention. Too bad because this kind of stuff takes credibility away from an often brilliant commentator.

And Obama should have stayed out of it too. He's as much of an attention whore as Rush is.

[Gib's Son]

What gets me is all the media attention. All to do about nothing IMO. Sarah Palin and Bauchman were, and are, called far worse names nearly on a daily basis. Pure un-adulterated hypocrisy to the highest magnitude.

[glennac]

Rush was right about his opposition to it, but the name calling was over the line. He does that to attract attention. Too bad because this kind of stuff takes credibility away from an often brilliant commentator.

And Obama should have stayed out of it too. He's as much of an attention whore as Rush is.

Your right of course but one or two words said in haste over the millions of right on comments he has made over the years every day should surly be forgiven.

Just like we are asked to forgive Obama all the time over his comments and Hillary's comments and fabrications. Like the time Hilary lied by saying she was "under sniper fire" when she visited US troops in Bosnia in 1996.:.02:

[newoldtech]

If Rush would of stayed on point and just objected to the tax payer, paying for contraception then he would have made a commendable argument. But by calling her a slut and suggesting that she tapes it makes him look like a nut IMO. Rush can somewhat get away with it as he is little more than a shock jock but Any pub candidate that supports Rush on his comments risks losing alot of female votes. I believe in general, Rush hurts the party more than he helps. And Obama read that and will be seen by many(especially females) as chivalrous in coming to the aid of a female.

[Gib's Son]

Every once in a while I will listen in for a while. I am always amazed at how much his comments are misrepresented. He will play back what someone else said he said, and then play back what he said. Many times they are flat out lies. In this case though, he did call her a slut....so what. Bill Maher called Palin the C word, I guess that's ok.

Personally, I think that, hope that, most women would see Fluke for what she is, an admitted tramp that needs 3 grand a year for contraceptives, and want's all of the rest of us to pay for it....a self serving socialist. Her parents must be real proud of her, needing that much money so she can get herself off.

[mrs reb77]

There is a very simple form of birth control that requires no body altering drugs, no implants and no invasion of privacy. It's covered by no health insurance yet it is totally free.

Pregnancy is NOT an illness. Devices and drugs to 'prevent' it are NOT healthcare measures--vaccines prevent illnesses, antibiotics treat illnesses, pain treatments etc. treat an injury or illness...I see no reason what-so-ever why any health insurance should cover 'birth control' drugs or devices just as I see no reason for viagra or cialis type coverage. If you are of child bearing age either don't have sex if you don't want to have a child (or the other approved methods of the Church) or use condoms and take your chances that way. But these things should NOT be added to the burden of the insurance costs spread among everyone else.

[mrs reb77]

My brother has been in college for several years now and has no health insurance. Since when do colleges provide health insurance coverage?

[corny]

Rush may be back on drugs again.....that is if he ever went off of them.

[jmac00]

Im going to have to sleep with her before I pass judgement :grin2::grin2::grin2::grin2::grin2::grin2::grin2:

[hearthman]

If the tax payers are forced to pay for her sexual experiences then the tax payers should be able to use her services. There should be a line around her block.

How long before we have to pay for people's booze, illicit drugs, etc.?

I wasn't going to call her a 'slut' per se but certainly the term 'whore'' fits her admitted behavior. In typical fashion, the news media tries to make more out of one word or term used rather than the substance of the arguement. Rush was right, she is a lazy scumbag wanting something for nothing.

It's time this country told these dead beats where to go.

Forgive me but I don't think of Georgetown as a free college. In fact, it is generally thought of as a prestigious school that ain't cheap. So, if she can afford the school, why can't she afford her personal habits? Either go to a cheaper school and live within your means or do like the rest of the country and do with less.

20 years ago this would not have even come up. Just goes to show how quickly the liberals have destroyed morality and values.

[monkeyman#1]

If the tax payers are forced to pay for her sexual experiences then the tax payers should be able to use her services. There should be a line around her block.

How long before we have to pay for people's booze, illicit drugs, etc.?

I wasn't going to call her a 'slut' per se but certainly the term 'whore'' fits her admitted behavior. In typical fashion, the news media tries to make more out of one word or term used rather than the substance of the arguement. Rush was right, she is a lazy scumbag wanting something for nothing.

It's time this country told these dead beats where to go.

Forgive me but I don't think of Georgetown as a free college. In fact, it is generally thought of as a prestigious school that ain't cheap. So, if she can afford the school, why can't she afford her personal habits? Either go to a cheaper school and live within your means or do like the rest of the country and do with less.

20 years ago this would not have even come up. Just goes to show how quickly the liberals have destroyed morality and values.

AMEN!!!!

[corny]

Looks like nobaughs showed where his true convictions lie....

Instead of standing his ground and upholding his opinion on this fluke gal.....he caved in when his sponsors started pulling out........lol

worshipping that almighty dollar.....

Ive read this whole thing was staged by the obama administration....and I kind of believe that.... pulls people away from the real problems hurting us right now....

americans..... I dont know why we just dont have 150 channels of cartoons on 24/7..... its about our speed.

[corny]

Seriously though...... that gal should ust get a second job or something instead of asking for an handout.... She is law school......college.....that shows she is trying to better herself...means she has some drive.....

30 years old.....she should be able to juggle school and a part time job or two.

[Gib's Son]

I suspect there is something more sinister at play here other than a few advertisers pulling out. I don't know how much he is worth, but I suspect he could lose his radio show tomorrow and still live a mighty fine life.

[jmac00]

30 yrs old and still a law student??? Im guessing she is going to stay in school, Lawyers are a dime-a-dozen :grin2:

[hearthman]

Get a job? She already has one--the oldest profession in the world. If you figure in classroom and study time with how much contraception she claims she's going through, the spends more time on her back than at the books and now we're going to pay her for it.

I'm sure they'll just add it to her student loans. Then, once she graduates and gets a federal job, the government will forgive her loans and it will all be free courtesy the taxpayers.

Any advertisers who pull their ads from Rush are shooting themselves in the foot. He has the best advertising cost/ benefit ratio around. Dopes.

Man, where were the chicks like this when I was in college? She should have an answering service scheduling all her appointments for when she's out of class.

[Gib's Son]

I read somewhere that she has a history of being a woman's rights activist. I think she is a Democrat operative and this whole thing was planned. The fact that Rush picked it up and ran with it the way he did ended up being a gift for the left.

I may have to try and listen in on Monday to see what he has to say about his apology. Certainly wont get a fair spin in the mainstream news, which I don't watch anyway.

[jmac00]

Get a job? She already has one--the oldest profession in the world. If you figure in classroom and study time with how much contraception she claims she's going through, the spends more time on her back than at the books and now we're going to pay her for it.

I'm sure they'll just add it to her student loans. Then, once she graduates and gets a federal job, the government will forgive her loans and it will all be free courtesy the taxpayers.

Any advertisers who pull their ads from Rush are shooting themselves in the foot. He has the best advertising cost/ benefit ratio around. Dopes.

Man, where were the chicks like this when I was in college? She should have an answering service scheduling all her appointments for when she's out of class.


she's IS working her way through school, I bet she comes out of school debt free :grin2:

BTW, those girls where at school, you just hung out with the wrong crowd :grin2:

[Rob_in_WV]

Just ran a little bit of math:According to a Bing search law school is 3 calendar years long or 1096 days(1095 + 1 day for leap year) cost of a condom $.75 give or take, and she claimed $3000 is the expense, and here is what I came up with $3000/.75= 4000 items, 4000/1096= 3.649 So is she saying law students are engaging in sexual activity almost 4 times a day? How are they finding time to become lawyers? And a birth control patch is approx. $50 a month according to my source(wife) so we have $50 X 36 months= $1800.

[netsalt]

Sad day in America when a private citizen appears in front of a congressional committee to express an opinion and is now fair game for the right wing slime machine. Other radio personalities have been forced out over less but don't expect it this time - to make it in the GOP the Rush "ring" must be kissed - so his position is safe for now.

[corny]

I think she was probably talking about the cost of the pill or an iud......and not condoms.

And those two could add up to 3 k when you fiqure in doctors appointments etc....

I dont believe she ever mentioned her preferred method.....but I think it was Rush....who mentioned the condom thing.

Probably completely orchestrated by obama....... wonder what he slid thru or took away from us while americans were completely obsessed with the condom thing ???

[corny]

I read somewhere that the way they were going to take away guns in the US is to release a picture of Obama eating a taco while standing over a copy of the constitution and its going to show some drippings on the copy of the constitution.

America will be so outraged by this that congress will have time to make ownership of even a pellet gun illegal.

Most americans wont even know what happened till they answer their door and are met with a rifle but to the face by the stormtroopers coming to get our guns.

Of course...now that I have revealed their plan....they will have to come up with something else....but that shouldnt be too hard.

[corny]

I didnt make that second post...or this third one just to increase my post count. Im just forgetfull.

[Tool-Slinger]

I think it is a non-issue. Rush-lovers will forgive him and understand the context while probably not being offended to begin with. People who don't care about Rush don't care about this comment or any of his opinions anyway. People who hate Rush may hate him more, but trying to "make political hay" off of this is a waste of time.

The Maher 'c' word comment about Palin comparison is a good one. Some people are offended, but it really changes nothing.

[ironpit]

Obama is a muslim-christian. They believe Christ did not die , but will come back to repent and tell everyone HE was wrong and the drunken murderous, whoremonger muhammed is right.( That would be the still dead muhammed)
Obama has clearly stated in interviews that Jesus is not the only way to heaven. That disqualifies him from being a follower of Christ
This is about religious beliefs and forcing others to follow them. The Scripture refers to a female who sleeps around as a whore. If she gets paid, she is also a prostitute. Guys who go after whores are called fools and whore mongers.
As for her financial needs, why doesn't she just charge enough to cover expenses. It's a supply/demand situation. If she isn't worth it, she should do what any business person would do and close her legs, I mean doors.

[glennac]

Obama is a muslim-christian. They believe Christ did not die , but will come back to repent and tell everyone HE was wrong and the drunken murderous, whoremonger muhammed is right.( That would be the still dead muhammed)
Obama has clearly stated in interviews that Jesus is not the only way to heaven. That disqualifies him from being a follower of Christ
This is about religious beliefs and forcing others to follow them. The Scripture refers to a female who sleeps around as a whore. If she gets paid, she is also a prostitute. Guys who go after whores are called fools and whore mongers.
As for her financial needs, why doesn't she just charge enough to cover expenses. It's a supply/demand situation. If she isn't worth it, she should do what any business person would do and close her legs, I mean doors.

Funny never heard of the Muslim-Christian thing. Also couldn't find it on the Internet. Sounds like a bad joke to me. Anyhow you are right on as far as that gal goes. If Georgetown is still a Catholic University then why don't they expel her for being such a tramp openly living in sin.

I can't believe her parents approving of her life style much less letting her going on national TV and telling everyone what a Jezebel she is. I would tell her you can fund your own education with your whoring around. Thank you very much.

[ironpit]

I can't wait until she gets a disease and see who has to pay for it. And who she will blame. It won't be her in either case.
Not to mention how many guys and girls she will infect and the costs associated with that.
Makes you wonder why all the hate speech against smokers.

[Tool-Slinger]

I think she should sue her boyfriend[s], if someone has to pay at least they got something in return.

Nobody owes her anything.

[ironpit]

Seems like the democrats would want to tax this action. Multi-billion dollar business ya know. they tax cigarettes.

[Rob_in_WV]

Funny never heard of the Muslim-Christian thing. Also couldn't find it on the Internet. Sounds like a bad joke to me. Anyhow you are right on as far as that gal goes. If Georgetown is still a Catholic University then why don't they expel her for being such a tramp openly living in sin.

I can't believe her parents approving of her life style much less letting her going on national TV and telling everyone what a Jezebel she is. I would tell her you can fund your own education with your whoring around. Thank you very much.

Gleen the correct term for the Muslim-Christian thing is Christlam, do a quick google on it, it's quite interesting, but still a false doctrine IMHO.

[ironpit]

It is chris-lam if you follow it. But some people, like obama bin laden want to pretend they are a"traditional" christian. They want to pretend they have nothing to do with islam. It is all about deception. He says he is a christian but that Christ isn't the only way to heaven.
And it is not just what he says. It is what he does that shows what he believes. He is on tv today saying what a true friend he has been to Israel. Anything but! Why has he ordered all the land given back to the arabs prior to to 67 invasion of Israel? The dog has promised half of Jerusalem to the arabs. It isn't going to happen.
Why does he order all references to Christ ( pictures, symbols, etc.) covered up when he appears at catholic/christians schools.

[Rob_in_WV]

If BHO does in fact turn his back on Israel, then my personal belief is that it's all over but the crying for the USA. God has blessed this country, but how much longer will he do so? As it stands now... not much longer. I know this isn't a religion thread but thats my stand on BHO and his stand on Israel and what it means to the US.

[ironpit]

I'm amazed at how many people on this site have good insight,

[ironpit]

Actually it is a religion thread because of what Obama bin laden and his little girl operative are trying to do to catholic/christian organizations. It really isn't about sex.

[netsalt]

I'm surprised how out of step some of the posters are on this issue. Most folks can see what a irresponsible blowhard Rushbo is and wouldn't put up with their daughters, sisters, wives or mothers being called a slut.

[hearthman]

Ok salty, what do you call a woman who testifies in public of her own volition that she has so much out of wedlock sex that she cannot pay her bills and needs federal tax dollars to pay for her sexual activities? Virtuous? A role model?

Can't wait to hear what you think of this person.

[Rob_in_WV]

Just found this posted on facebook by a friend, who I consider very reliable/

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/sandra-fluke-a-fake-victim-of-georgetowns-policy-on-contraceptives/

[ironpit]

I'm surprised how out of step some of the posters are on this issue. Most folks can see what a irresponsible blowhard Rushbo is and wouldn't put up with their daughters, sisters, wives or mothers being called a slut.

I don't like rush. I also don't change the scripture because I or THE PUBLIC don't like something it says. If that is out of step, I'm out of stride!

I'M surprised how many people would wink at daughters, sisters, wives or mothers who conduct themselves like this and ***** about it in the most public of forums complaining that they are not being subsidized by the american public wandering sexcapades.

It isn't about sex .It is about forcing catholics and christians into a government sponsored religion.

[ironpit]

Just found this posted on facebook by a friend, who I consider very reliable/

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/sandra-fluke-a-fake-victim-of-georgetowns-policy-on-contraceptives/

another example of someone who knows the score. Good post! :patriot:

[netsalt]

Ok salty, what do you call a woman who testifies in public of her own volition that she has so much out of wedlock sex that she cannot pay her bills and needs federal tax dollars to pay for her sexual activities? Virtuous? A role model?

Can't wait to hear what you think of this person.

You do realize the pill is taken daily regardless if the person was sexually active that particular day.

[ironpit]

Not our problem. And it is not about sex.

[netsalt]

Not our problem. And it is not about sex.

This is where you and I agree, it is not about sex, it is a medical issue, but I fear we disagree when it comes to prohibitions on a medication that is widely used in this country.

[hearthman]

Typical liberal there Salty avoiding my question.

Women can take hormones for a lot of medical conditions such as preventing ovarian cysts from occurring monthly so that is a medical condition--not contraception. This woman is talking about me paying for "the pill" not for health reasons but birth control. She's also talking about me paying for the "morning after" pill, which can be construed as inducing an abortion on a fertilize egg even before implantation.

This is NOT about health care, it is about liberals attempting to ram down the throats of those who don't share their beliefs, issues that are anathema to those Christians. It is about using immoral and unscrupulous people and liars to sway public opinion with false information all to get more government control of our lives, eliminate our religious freedoms and take out money.

BTW, Rush pointed out Mr. Fluke's real agenda at the top of his show today.

Still waiting Salty.....:whistle:

[netsalt]

Typical liberal there Salty avoiding my question.

Women can take hormones for a lot of medical conditions such as preventing ovarian cysts from occurring monthly so that is a medical condition--not contraception. This woman is talking about me paying for "the pill" not for health reasons but birth control. She's also talking about me paying for the "morning after" pill, which can be construed as inducing an abortion on a fertilize egg even before implantation.

This is NOT about health care, it is about liberals attempting to ram down the throats of those who don't share their beliefs, issues that are anathema to those Christians. It is about using immoral and unscrupulous people and liars to sway public opinion with false information all to get more government control of our lives, eliminate our religious freedoms and take out money.

BTW, Rush pointed out Mr. Fluke's real agenda at the top of his show today.

Still waiting Salty.....:whistle:

No, you're right she was just asking to be called a prostitute and a slut - think we should send her a scarlet letter? This is why organized religion is getting such a bad name.:censored: How is this any different than Sharia law?

[hearthman]

Still avoiding the question, as usual: "Ok salty, what do you call a woman who testifies in public of her own volition that she has so much out of wedlock sex that she cannot pay her bills and needs federal tax dollars to pay for her sexual activities? Virtuous? A role model?

Can't wait to hear what you think of this person. "

The world waits with baited breath...

[netsalt]

Still avoiding the question, as usual: "Ok salty, what do you call a woman who testifies in public of her own volition that she has so much out of wedlock sex that she cannot pay her bills and needs federal tax dollars to pay for her sexual activities? Virtuous? A role model?

Can't wait to hear what you think of this person. "

The world waits with baited breath...

WHAT are you talking about? I didn't hear her testify about the frequency she had sex, typical conservative blather, prop up a strawman and knock it down. The question cannot be answered since the premise is false.

[hearthman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y

[tunnel_rat]

The fact that this um...woman is having this much impact in the public discourse says it all. Maybe she needs to get a part-time job to pay for her rubbers.........pole dancer or something. Don't expect me to pay for them. Next, when she can't afford her tampons, whose gonna be on the hook for them??

[ironpit]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y

That's insane ! ::DD:

[motoguy128]

There is a very simple form of birth control that requires no body altering drugs, no implants and no invasion of privacy. It's covered by no health insurance yet it is totally free.

Pregnancy is NOT an illness. Devices and drugs to 'prevent' it are NOT healthcare measures--vaccines prevent illnesses, antibiotics treat illnesses, pain treatments etc. treat an injury or illness...I see no reason what-so-ever why any health insurance should cover 'birth control' drugs or devices just as I see no reason for viagra or cialis type coverage. If you are of child bearing age either don't have sex if you don't want to have a child (or the other approved methods of the Church) or use condoms and take your chances that way. But these things should NOT be added to the burden of the insurance costs spread among everyone else.


You do realize that are exceptions. My wife takes very aggressive Lupus treatments that could cause serious birth defects. They are actually the same drugs that cancer patients use. I guess the catholic church would prefer use having deformed kids that we didn't want or not have sex. They actually recommend 2 forms of birth control. Her disease is well controlled and we would love ot have another kid, but feel it woudl be irresponsible to just leave it to "gods will" and roll the dice on if the kid is healthy or has major issues. We may have simply been blessed and won vegas odds with our first and only child (didn't know she had Lupus until after she gave birth).

Plus birth control helps regulate menstral cycles and makes them far less severe. It's also considered to be the primary factor in allowing women more equal freedom and power in society. I consider birth control so dramatically seperate from abortion that it's not even in the same realm of discussion.

Ultimately by limiting the ava8ilability of a drug, you are restrictign the choice of peopel to make a decision on their own beliefs.


Honestly, on the same token, I think all treatments for obesity shouldn't be covered. This is a lifestyle problem that complicated by less than ideal genetics. I persnally have fluctuated from 160-205lbs the last 4 years and I could easily get to 250lbs if wanted and be a big fat slob. I simply a matter of discipline in my diet and fighting the tendency in thsi country ot assume more is better and eat huge servings.... that are 3-4X what you actually need. Literally at most reasaurants, you can share a meal and still take home at least 1-2 servings. It's f***** rediculous.

So should we ban IVF and other fertility treatments too? Where do we stop? IF a woman is born with defective ovaries and that can be corrected with surgery, is it a form of birth control if she chooses not to?

IF a cancer treatment makes me sterile, is that a form of birth control? Shold I have been left to die from cancer? But if I don't seek treatment, isn't that suicide... now I go to hell for that. Gee, I just discovered a paradox. If I save some sperm can I use that for IVF? OF course, how can I save sperm since jacking off is sinful in the first place.

Some religions just aren't capable or willing to address, realistically, a lot of modern realities in medicine.

[ironpit]

No. Actually, it's people who do whatever they want, when they want, and they want someone else to pay for it. They almost always find one single, legitimate,innocent exception ( kinda like your wife ) and then use that without conscious to force their real agenda on everyone else. Always blaming others in a self-righteous way while accusing the "opposing" party of the same.

As far as obesity goes , you know nothing of it. After 50 year old man tried to rape my daughter, she unexplainably gained a lot of weight. It is under control now.

And we didn't ask you to pay for it.

[netsalt]

So I guess its OK to call someone a slut because you have a differing opinion. My question is why does the GOP want to know all about what goes on in your bedroom but don't dare ask about whats in someone's wallet. Sounds pretty perverted to me, especially when the Rushbo wants to see videotape of what this girl does or doesn't do. That's just what I gather from listening to the Rush apologists, a sad and pathetic view of life.

[ironpit]

you are twisting what rush "wants" and i am not a fan of his . Neither am I a republican. This woman came forward into the public spotlight with deception and an agenda that was not about sex.
She is and was dishonest from the beginning.She intentional deceived the public she was demanding money from.
We are not supposed to judge others, but neither are we to be ignorant of the truth. I do not agree with the name calling, but neither do I agree with this far more egregious stunt this woman was pulling.

[netsalt]

you are twisting what rush "wants" and i am not a fan of his . Neither am I a republican. This woman came forward into the public spotlight with deception and an agenda that was not about sex.
She is and was dishonest from the beginning.She intentional deceived the public she was demanding money from.
We are not supposed to judge others, but neither are we to be ignorant of the truth. I do not agree with the name calling, but neither do I agree with this far more egregious stunt this woman was pulling.

So no one has twisted this woman's testimony???????????
Deception and an agenda - opinion.
When the crown prince of the GOP makes a gaff this large the spotlight is on him, not the victim.

[ironpit]

truth is never an opinion

[SolarMike]

Actually, there is your opinion, my opinion and then there is the truth, which is never spoken accurately by anyone.

[ironpit]

Truth is never an opinion.We have opinions of truth.

[SolarMike]

You mean an interpretation of truth?

[ironpit]

truth supercedes men and is not dependent on him. I'm going somewhere with this.

[SolarMike]

becoming eloquent?

[ironpit]

no. just got a bowl of chips and layin' around. i lurnd how tu reed. :D

[SolarMike]

Don't forget the dip...

[ironpit]

that would be you right ? Just kidding!. quit whining. I was over in th drywall thread, ::DD:

[SolarMike]

LOL, so was I (over in the drywall thread, not a dip)

Time for me to do some CAD work.....

[ironpit]

you, cad?

[Gib's Son]

I think he IS a Cad........just kidding. Nice to see some joshing going on here in ARP...most the time we are way to serious.

[ironpit]

actually, I was going to tell him it was supposed to be an exclamation mark instead of a question mark I was making a statement. But he ran away. I annoy him.
GOOD CALL THOUGH! just kidding!
we're so funny! :grin2: ( boy am I bored)

[SolarMike]

actually, I was going to tell him it was supposed to be an exclamation mark instead of a question mark I was making a statement. But he ran away. I annoy him.
GOOD CALL THOUGH! just kidding!
we're so funny! :grin2: ( boy am I bored)

Bored? That is why I went to do some CAD work, that and it was due today:grin2: just kidding, not bored.

[fixacr]

A minimum amount of time spent researching Sandra Fluke reveals that she is not exactly the victim that the left would like us to believe. She is a fan of Rachel Maddow and Ed Schultz. By the way, where was the outrage from the left when he called Laura Ingraham a slut? Anyway Ms. Fluke insists on following the lead of Nancy Pelosi in referring to her speech as "testimony before Congress" when it was, in fact, a speech made to a gathering of select Democrats who already agreed with every word she said before she ever opened her mouth. Ms. Fluke is merely another wanna-be activist who is making the most of her 15 minutes of fame.

http://www.lifenews.com/2012/03/05/sandra-fluke-a-self-described-professional-pro-abortion-activist/

[netsalt]

A minimum amount of time spent researching Sandra Fluke reveals that she is not exactly the victim that the left would like us to believe. She is a fan of Rachel Maddow and Ed Schultz. By the way, where was the outrage from the left when he called Laura Ingraham a slut? Anyway Ms. Fluke insists on following the lead of Nancy Pelosi in referring to her speech as "testimony before Congress" when it was, in fact, a speech made to a gathering of select Democrats who already agreed with every word she said before she ever opened her mouth. Ms. Fluke is merely another wanna-be activist who is making the most of her 15 minutes of fame.

http://www.lifenews.com/2012/03/05/sandra-fluke-a-self-described-professional-pro-abortion-activist/

This is just the old Rovian style of politics - attack the victim.

This is how an apology is done. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1mQS3zxPF4

Does it really matter if this person is an activist?

Just because you feel self righteous does not mean other people think you are right.

[hearthman]

definition of slut: Slut or slattern is a term applied to an individual who is considered to have loose sexual morals or who is sexually promiscuous.

The shoe fits so why is everyone up in arms? Rush could just as easily have called her a 'whore' and been correct according to the information she provided about her lifestyle choices.

The only controvesy there should be here is why we're even discussing paying for people's personal lifestyle choices.

Still waiting to hear the outrage and calls for dropped advertising against David Letterman and Bill Maher......

[fixacr]

This is just the old Rovian style of politics - attack the victim.

This is how an apology is done. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1mQS3zxPF4

Does it really matter if this person is an activist?

Just because you feel self righteous does not mean other people think you are right.

You missed the point, my friend.

Sandra Fluke is not a victim. Further research indicates that she is also not a wanna-be activist as I incorrectly stated. She is a very active and prolific pro-abortion/women's rights activist. Her choice to enroll at Georgetown appears to be based on the fact that the school does not provide the services that Ms. Fluke seems to be upset about. If this is true, then she is now accomplishing what she originally set out to do which has little if anything to do with obtaining a law degree. If she were truly interested in attending a college that provided free birth control, she would have applied elsewhere.

[netsalt]

I guess some will never get it. It really is not OK to call someone a slut unless you are willing to get your a$$ kicked. Everything else is just opinion and BS. Rush is getting his kicked, and rightfully so. You would think he would be a gentleman and just take some time off.

[fixacr]

I guess some will never get it. It really is not OK to call someone a slut unless you are willing to get your a$$ kicked. Everything else is just opinion and BS. Rush is getting his kicked, and rightfully so. You would think he would be a gentleman and just take some time off.

At no time in this thread, until now, have I said anything about Rush Limbaugh, what he did or didn't say, nor whether or not I agree or disagree with anything he said or didn't say.

[netsalt]

I have been talking about Rush the whole time. He is a big boy and now it is time for him to take "personal responsibility".

[Gib's Son]

Hypocrisy from the left...and POTUS. The silence is deafening from the White House and main stream media.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/will-obama-super-pac-return-misogynist-bill-mahers-million-dollar-donation_633200.html

[netsalt]

This really is all on the GOP since Rush's approval seems to guide their actions. Mahar just doesn't have the pull Rushbo has, apples and oranges.

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[hearthman]

I guess some will never get it. It really is not OK to call someone a slut unless you are willing to get your a$$ kicked. Everything else is just opinion and BS. Rush is getting his kicked, and rightfully so. You would think he would be a gentleman and just take some time off.

Then again, liberal policy dictates it is ok to call someone a "tea bagger", "right wing nut job", racist, Religious nuts, etc., etc. since the liberals own the rights to what is fair and what isn't. They can use any word, term or implication they want with impunity because they own the media. Doesn't make them right.

I didn't see Letterman or Maher or Clinton take time off. Oh, wait, they never apologized.

By telling the world of her activities and lifestyle, SHE called herself a 'slut' and a 'whore' and was proud of it. Again, I ask you one last time: what virtuous title would you give this dishonest woman of self proclaimed ill repute?

[netsalt]

Then again, liberal policy dictates it is ok to call someone a "tea bagger", "right wing nut job", racist, Religious nuts, etc., etc. since the liberals own the rights to what is fair and what isn't. They can use any word, term or implication they want with impunity because they own the media. Doesn't make them right.

I didn't see Letterman or Maher or Clinton take time off. Oh, wait, they never apologized.

By telling the world of her activities and lifestyle, SHE called herself a 'slut' and a 'whore' and was proud of it. Again, I ask you one last time: what virtuous title would you give this dishonest woman of self proclaimed ill repute?

I would call her a citizen of the United States that has a legitimate right to bring her views before the Congress to be heard. Your or Rush's slanderous accusations of dishonesty and ill repute do not diminish the courage of this young woman to stand up for what she believes.

[fixacr]

I have been talking about Rush the whole time. He is a big boy and now it is time for him to take "personal responsibility".

I understand that you were talking about Rush the whole time. What I don't understand is why you would respond to a post about one subject by talking about a totally different subject.

[netsalt]

I thought the OP posted a link to a story concerning Limbaugh as one of the central characters. Maybe I misunderstood?

[fixacr]

I thought the OP posted a link to a story concerning Limbaugh as one of the central characters. Maybe I misunderstood?

I stand by my assessment of Sandra Fluke, but you're right. The story started out about Obama's phone call to Ms. Fluke and went on to mention Limbaugh, among others. I guess I half-way hi-jacked the thread. Apologies to all.

[WebCTRL]

This really is all on the GOP since Rush's approval seems to guide their actions. Mahar just doesn't have the pull Rushbo has, apples and oranges.

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OR, JUST THE TYPICAL LIBERAL MEDIA BIAS!

[WebCTRL]

Then again, liberal policy dictates it is ok to call someone a "tea bagger", "right wing nut job", racist, Religious nuts, etc., etc. since the liberals own the rights to what is fair and what isn't. They can use any word, term or implication they want with impunity because they own the media. Doesn't make them right.

I didn't see Letterman or Maher or Clinton take time off. Oh, wait, they never apologized.

By telling the world of her activities and lifestyle, SHE called herself a 'slut' and a 'whore' and was proud of it. Again, I ask you one last time: what virtuous title would you give this dishonest woman of self proclaimed ill repute?

Bingo! The left could do it but the right must be politically correct. C'mon, she is what she is, and she told you clearly exactly what she is. Is it just that the morals of the country have declined so far, that we can't call a s_ut a s_ut! PC because they might think I'm a Righty!

[Gib's Son]

I thought the OP posted a link to a story concerning Limbaugh as one of the central characters. Maybe I misunderstood?

The OP was not about Rush, it was about a POTUS sticking his nose somewhere it does not belong....again. And the video of the tramp. Rush was a sideshow that I never brought up. The title of the thread is Tramp, not Rush call Fluke a Slut.

As mentioned by myself and others, it's pure hypocrisy as the left engages in this sort of name calling, and worse, regularly. If lefties expect to have any respect or credibility they should stand up and shout out and condemn such behavior no matter which side of the isle it comes from.

And then we have a President that call's a press conference over the matter. What a complete piece of work. All the problems this country has and he has time to yap his mouth off about this? "Civil discourse". Yeah right. No party is more un-civil than the Democrats and Communists in the Democratic party.

Final parting shot for this post; if Rush had the influence over the GOP that the left continuously spout's off about, the GOP would be allot stronger, allot less Rino's would be holding office, and the country would be in better shape, as would be our personal freedoms.

[glennac]

I would call her a citizen of the United States that has a legitimate right to bring her views before the Congress to be heard. Your or Rush's slanderous accusations of dishonesty and ill repute do not diminish the courage of this young woman to stand up for what she believes.

You may call her a saint to the cause of the radical left if you like and so on and so on but she by her own actions is a whore, a slut and a tramp by anyone's definition.

She is also a liar. She testified that it cost her over $3,000 for three years for birth control. Target which is only 1.8 miles away from her dorm sells a month supply of pills for $9.00 which works out to $324 for three years worth of pills and then there is a planned parent hood clinic only 2 miles away where she could get them free.

I call her a pure slut and her parents ought to make her pay her way through law school based on all the sex she is giving away.:.02: Thank you very much

[netsalt]

The facts are the facts. Your or Rush's estimation of her sexual exploits holds no water and should not be part of the discussion. Someone expressing a request should not lead to name calling, the decision should be based on the merits of the request - that is the America I grew up in. Countering that the left does it only shows a lack of personal responsibility and finger pointing.

[glennac]

The facts are the facts. Your or Rush's estimation of her sexual exploits holds no water and should not be part of the discussion. Someone expressing a request should not lead to name calling, the decision should be based on the merits of the request - that is the America I grew up in. Countering that the left does it only shows a lack of personal responsibility and finger pointing.

Wow I'm glad you straighten me out there salty. So if a prostitute, slut, etc. testifies in front of a group of radical Democrats, she then is sanctified and no longer is a whore but something like Joan of Arc.

We no longer can label her what she is. It doesn't matter if she runs a train at her room every night and takes care of all the jocks on campus. Thanks for the heads up.:grin2: Got it. Thank you, thank you very much

[netsalt]

Wow I'm glad you straighten me out there salty. So if a prostitute, slut, etc. testifies in front of a group of radical Democrats, she then is sanctified and no longer is a whore but something like Joan of Arc.

We no longer can label her what she is. It doesn't matter if she runs a train at her room every night and takes care of all the jocks on campus. Thanks for the heads up.:grin2: Got it. Thank you, thank you very much

You can label anyone you want, I'm just pointing out the backwoods ignorance of it. Believe it or not there are people who can debate the issues without rolling in the gutter calling people names. Just because I call you a !@#$%@#$ does not make you one and neither does it decide the issue. Thanks for playing, you are very welcome.

[scrogdog]

Let's cut to the chase.

Does it walk like a duck?

Does it quack like a duck?

It's a duck.

Ideally, of course, even a duck would know the difference between personal responsibility and community responsibility.

[netsalt]

So you are saying this women is promiscuous based on her request for birth control?

[scrogdog]

So you are saying this women is promiscuous based on her request for birth control?

No I am saying that she's promiscuous based on the stated need for $1000 worth of contraceptives in a single calendar year.

But my OPINION (as you have already pointed out) has nothing to do with the issue at hand which is; why should tax payers be burdened with her PERSONAL choices?

Last I heard, pregnancy was not a disease. Thus HEALTH care, rightly, should also not pay for her personal choices. Just like it generally won't pay for procedures considered "elective".

Personally, I don't care what she does. What I do care about is the use of my money to support her PERSONAL choices.

[netsalt]

No I am saying that she's promiscuous based on the stated need for $1000 worth of contraceptives in a single calendar year.

But my OPINION (as you have already pointed out) has nothing to do with the issue at hand which is; why should tax payers be burdened with her PERSONAL choices?

Last I heard, pregnancy was not a disease. Thus HEALTH care, rightly, should also not pay for her personal choices. Just like it generally won't pay for procedures considered "elective".

Personally, I don't care what she does. What I do care about is the use of my money to support her PERSONAL choices.

Health care pays for everyones personal choices either in premiums or taxes. So logically wouldn't it make sense to provide the birth control rather than provide for the alternative? Of course the hard line could be taken that as a country "we" will not pay for any program that might benefit society and go back to the every man (woman) for themselves, survival of the fittest and all that, a kind of Mad Max world.

[WebCTRL]

Health care pays for everyones personal choices either in premiums or taxes. So logically wouldn't it make sense to provide the birth control rather than provide for the alternative? Of course the hard line could be taken that as a country "we" will not pay for any program that might benefit society and go back to the every man (woman) for themselves, survival of the fittest and all that, a kind of Mad Max world.

Why oh why can't she pay for it herself? I don't walk to work eveyday, so I drive my truck, I don't get the exercise from that walk, but I don't ask you to pay for my truck. Riciculous right, so is her request.

GET REAL. She chooses the lifestyle, let her pay for it. I choose my lifestyle let me pay for it.

[ControlsInMT]

Why oh why can't she pay for it herself? I don't walk to work eveyday, so I drive my truck, I don't get the exercise from that walk, but I don't ask you to pay for my truck. Riciculous right, so is her request.

GET REAL. She chooses the lifestyle, let her pay for it. I choose my lifestyle let me pay for it.

You have it all wrong! :gah: According to the Libs, you should be able to request a full gym in your home so you can keep fit. After all that would be better than society having to take care of you if you become overweight...:whistle::cheers:

[netsalt]

I thought you guys understood the concept of pay me now or pay me later. If this women is such a prostitute I guess you won't be surprised when her pimp rolls someone for payment.;)

[WebCTRL]

You have it all wrong! :gah: According to the Libs, you should be able to request a full gym in your home so you can keep fit. After all that would be better than society having to take care of you if you become overweight...:whistle::cheers:

I still have the receipts for the treadmill and the weight machine. Reckon' they'll reimburse me? Or just deduct it as a healthcare expense on my taxes?

[scrogdog]

Next it will be that we have to pay for botox injections, hair transplants, boob jobs, face lifts, etc.

Because if we don't, then those people might feel bad about themselves.

[scrogdog]

Health care pays for everyones personal choices either in premiums or taxes. So logically wouldn't it make sense to provide the birth control rather than provide for the alternative? Of course the hard line could be taken that as a country "we" will not pay for any program that might benefit society and go back to the every man (woman) for themselves, survival of the fittest and all that, a kind of Mad Max world.

Imagine me asking that a duck or a typical woman would know the difference between personal and civic responsibility, when it is clear that even YOU don't.

Silly me. How else can we construct the "bribe me for my vote with entitlements" system that the libs seem so fond of?

[ControlsInMT]

I thought you guys understood the concept of pay me now or pay me later. If this women is such a prostitute I guess you won't be surprised when her pimp rolls someone for payment.;)

I believe prostitution is still illegal, so now you want us to subsidize criminal activity?

[netsalt]

You guys really need to get out of the echo chamber every now and then to get some perspective into some other views.

[scrogdog]

You guys really need to get out of the echo chamber every now and then to get some perspective into some other views.

I know, huh?

Imagine some people just not getting the culture of "poor little me"!

Amazing!

[Gib's Son]

You guys really need to get out of the echo chamber every now and then to get some perspective into some other views.

I would rather live in an echo chamber than a vacuum chamber, completely void of an original thought, and stuck with nothing but a rigid ideology.

[glennac]

You guys really need to get out of the echo chamber every now and then to get some perspective into some other views.

Funny at least we aren't asking you to pay for an echo chamber. Liberals always want our money to spend on others as they see fit. Socialism, Marxism and communism is what all this leads up to along with the destruction of our standard of living and freedoms. It just sucks period. I shall cut to the chase now.

The slut needs to spend over $20.00 a week on condoms so she won't not only get pregnant but catch a STD from all the different guys she has sex with every day. It wouldn't cost her nothing if she was just taking birth control pills and seeing one guy like her boyfriend.

She spends all that money giving free sex to everyone she can have sex with. That would be the only explanation as to why she needs a $1000 a year for birth control. She is indeed a slut.:.02: Thank you, thank you very much

[scrogdog]

Yep I'd say that cut to the chase alright. :eek:

Group smilies in her honor!

:pileon:



:grin2:

[netsalt]

So this is the best arguments given for not allowing the insurance companies to provide contraception across the board. The women vote will be in the bag with that platform. Internal ultrasounds for everyone - there's another winner. At this rate the GOP will be a distant memory in a few years

[scrogdog]

Um no, not even close. It doesn't seem like you've even read the replies to this topic.

It's simple, as I said PREGNANCY IS NOT A DISEASE. It should not be covered by HEALTH care (unless demonstrated that the pregnancy IS difficult and might be harmful to child, mother, or both. That's an entirely different matter.)

But that is the excuse put forth. BECAUSE health care does not cover it, then taxpayers should.

I have news for you. A healthy society means HAVING babies and families, so that is the SOCIETAL NORM. Hey, I'm a non-conformist myself... I'd be the first to admit it. But I don't ask YOU to pay for it.

In case you haven't noticed, our population growth would be NEGATIVE without immigration, especially in the age of working moms. We need MORE families and babies, not less.

But if you are like me and not always in step with the mainstream, great! Welcome to the club and let me shake your hand!

But keep your hands OFF of my wallet.

[netsalt]

Yea I have read them - I just can't stop shaking my head. Out of all the GOP candidates for pres I thought at least one of them would have the cajones to stand up to Rush the blowhard. Like I said the GOP seems to want to govern our personal lives as long as you stay out of my wallet. Small government is just a catch phrase for these guys and it will lead to their extinction - just like the dinosaurs.

[scrogdog]

Yea I have read them - I just can't stop shaking my head. Out of all the GOP candidates for pres I thought at least one of them would have the cajones to stand up to Rush the blowhard. Like I said the GOP seems to want to govern our personal lives as long as you stay out of my wallet. Small government is just a catch phrase for these guys and it will lead to their extinction - just like the dinosaurs.

I don't disagree with most of this, but traditional conservatives DO believe in small government.

There is no more need to stand up to Rush than there is or was to stand up to Mahr or Leno or Carson. Rush is an entertainer NOT a politician. Let it go dude. :)

In any case, I do not, and probably a few others here do not identify myself/ourselves as "republicans" anymore. However, we DO call ourselves "traditional conservatives" and please do NOT make the mistake of believing that the two terms are synonymous with one another.

If they once were, they are no longer.

[glennac]

Amen to that scrog. Couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you very much

[scrogdog]

Amen to that scrog. Couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you very much

We try to bring these kids along slowly; I have no idea why everyone thinks this place is like the shark tank or something.

:ghug: