View Full Version : Lets put the friggin water heater 15 inches away
02-19-2012, 07:17 PM
Swung by a small Thai restaurant and diagnosed a Bryant furnace. Should have took a picture. The furnace is located in a big closet. Open closet door , hmm that looks like the BACK side of a furnace :gah:
Dagone installer put unit in Backwards so it facing the big assed commercial sized water heater, putting it 16 inches away from the front of the furnace. Its Sunday , its snowing like crazy out , and im squeezed in there like a sardine , Blower motor stuck. Could hardly turn the squirrel cage. Im trying to get this motor oiled so hes got heat tonight and possibly tomorrow for the customers.
No way to remove blower housing with water heater right there. Good thing theres that big air return space under it. Dropped the blower assembly in there and leaned inside furnace to work on the motor.
I drilled the back plate so i could pour some oil down in the rear bearing , and got the front bearing best i could.
Wound up taking motor halfway off to get numbers off the sticker ,then had to put back in again ( yes im thorough )
I almost left the motor out until i got another one, but thought , oh what the heck , get the guy some heat so his customers are happy.
Moral of story .... I'd like to SLAP whoever installed this.
02-19-2012, 08:02 PM
Here's one at 4 1/2 inches. Thankfully, I only had to change the ignitor.
02-19-2012, 08:13 PM
Changing a motor out on that photo would be an expensive service call fosho!
02-19-2012, 08:14 PM
Same with replacing the heat exchanger. Probably find popped crimp rings if you could get your beady head in there to see them :D Sure ain't gonna pull the blower and look up :(
02-19-2012, 08:56 PM
That picture is about how this one looks , except make that furnace and WH twice as wide , then squeeze your butt in there on your knees.
02-19-2012, 09:17 PM
Panzies. Cut a hole in the side of the return to get to the motor. :-P
PS: didn't see the drop. Just kick that drop out of the way!
They did that, so that while you were working on the furnace, you could work on the clean the burners on the WH at the same time!
02-19-2012, 11:37 PM
I want to know how this passes any kind of inspection, oh that's right there was none!!!
I see it all too often. I let the customer know it is going to cost more due to the installation. I also point out the clearance requirements to them.
On the ones that are our maintenance customers, I refuse to service it and tell the office to send the person that put it on the plan back to service it.
02-20-2012, 06:31 AM
On the ones that are our maintenance customers, I refuse to service it and tell the office to send the person that put it on the plan back to service it. :grin2: thats funny stuff right there
02-20-2012, 08:57 AM
I'm assuming there was no ticket attached to either ;) In any case, I see this sort of a cluster**** as an opportunity to either...
1) Bill for more time when servicing if the customer is stupid
2) Reinstall (and/or replace, depending on the age/condition/customer needs) if the customer is smart
Either way, it's money in the bank, assuming the customer wants heat on the premises.
02-21-2012, 06:14 AM
Guys, don't click on any of the links in the previous post. It's spam. Already reported.
02-21-2012, 07:23 AM
I would have charged more if the economy was better , but this guy has been crying the blues for a while now ...
02-21-2012, 08:38 PM
You should go to the city or county office and see what else the Restuarant owner, owns. We had an Asian restaurant in Manassas, ages ago. I was picking up a permit, and ask the clerk if I could look at business licenses. She showed me how, that guy owned half of Manassas.:rolleyes: He wouldn't replace a rusted hulk, R500 unit. Was always working to get something knocked off the bill, with delayed payments.
02-27-2012, 11:42 AM
You guys with all that basement area around equipment are spoiled.
02-27-2012, 12:42 PM
I had a situation similar to the Goodman and the DWH in the pic above... with a dead blower motor.
After scratching my head for a while... decided the only thing to do was cut a big hole in the side of the furnace blower box. Between lots of fiddling and a BIG hole... I managed to get the blower assembly out the side (slide it forwards off the tracks, then drop down, then twist sideways, then bring out).
Changed the blower motor and went through the same mess putting it back in.
Worked... I guess that is what matters.
Oh yeah... had a discussion BEFORE I started as to how much it would cost, and got a sig on the bill.
And you guessed it... the HO's BIL (brother in law) installed the furnace.
02-27-2012, 08:24 PM
installer typically don't care about how am I gonna service this thing. just slam it in, clean up and leave.
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